Wow.... i love the warm welcome. glad to be on these forums and no i don't need anyone to hold my hand. im just looking for someone to point me in the right direction in this mist of all the misdirection online telling me that i need need this product or i need to do this or that, and As for Scrabbler yes i do understand marketing. does it make me less of a person asking for help?... i think not. but thanks for your input. I know for a fact no one did it on there own there was help handed out in someone way, shape, or form. so this is me at my rookie stage trying to learn this game of online marking and fail a million times so i understand how to succeed a million ways.