Calling out [R]Devore - Cre8tiv Visions

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This guy is a complete scumbag.

I found out on another forum that he ditched the company that he scammed everybody under and has now started a new company, Viccore Media, which he's a member of Wickedfire under.

So I took a break today and decided to do some digging. I IM'd the new company on AIM - viccoredotcom. A nice front was put on by him. I'll paste some key exceprts of the convo.

11:34:42 AM lazar85: hey, saw you on talk freelance. do you do custom templates?
11:35:52 AM viccoredotcom: Hello Mate. Yes, I do custom work. Right now, I am working on getting a portfolio together of work I have done.
11:36:08 AM lazar85: what are your rates?
11:36:49 AM viccoredotcom: My rates depend on project, and if you are looking for just a design template, or coded in valid xhtml/css, or integrated into a script, ect. I do not have flat rates. I usually do price quotes on per project basis
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Nice, so the scammer is still designing.

11:38:01 AM lazar85: the guy i had doing my site scammed me and my lawyer is preparing a case now. need to move forward and get the site done heh
11:38:21 AM viccoredotcom: thats horrible mate. its people like that who mess things up for everyone else, you know.
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Bashing yourself, k, cool.

11:43:42 AM viccoredotcom: OHHHH. you we're working with that cre8tiv-vision guy too? I've had three people IM me from some youngentrepeneur.com website because some guy named "quess" said I was some "Robb" guy. I've been trying to explain this to everyone, and also contacting the quess guy/girl from youngentrepenur.com website, but they won't answer me.
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Haha, I don't even know what to say to that.

11:50:45 AM viccoredotcom: the one with the cheerleader resource, I just removed everything and put why in my post. I do not want to be tied to anyone from this bad situation. It's bad enough people contacted me because some idiot said I was him, let alone working for the guy without knowing it. Don't mind my language, but its fucking horrible mate. I can't stand people like this.
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Nice...

Alright, so I'll cut to the chase. I emailed him at his new company and tracked the email with ReadNotify.com. I then emailed his old company and tracked that as well. Shit. What do you know, everything matches up!

ImageShack - Hosting :: picture12sv7.png - Screenshot 1

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At this point, I'm laughing my ass off. So I decide to confront him about it.

3:13:45 PM lazar85: hello mate
3:15:29 PM lazar85: i've got a question for you
3:17:12 PM lazar85: i know youre there, you've got an idle message when you arent mate
3:19:10 PM viccoredotcom: Hey mate. I am here, I have my AIM set to never show idle messages so, you aren't fully correct about that. I got finished with dinner about 20 minutes ago and am working on a price quote for you now.
3:19:23 PM lazar85: oooh. ok take a look at this
3:19:23 PM lazar85: ImageShack - Hosting :: picture12sv7.png
3:19:30 PM lazar85: then this
3:19:31 PM lazar85: ImageShack - Hosting :: picture11ll6.png
3:20:07 PM lazar85: why does that info match up, mate?
3:20:57 PM viccoredotcom: I don't know mate. are you the quess guy from youngentrepreneur.com? Seems like you have it out for me or something.
3:21:04 PM lazar85: nope
3:21:06 PM lazar85: you know who i am
3:21:12 PM lazar85: and my lawyer knows who you are too
3:21:23 PM lazar85: if you wanna pay me back, i'd suggest you do it soon
3:21:38 PM lazar85: the whole conversation with you lying...thats fraud bud
3:21:54 PM lazar85: and if you say thats not you, cool, your records can be subpoena'd from AIM
3:22:16 PM lazar85: i've already got the IP which you use to log into your myspace account, it matches up with both of these...
3:22:34 PM viccoredotcom: Thats fine, if thats how you want to take it mate. I don't have time for this, or time for someone accusing me of something. Keep the witch hunt up. Have a good day mate
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That's probably the best ownage I've ever done in my life. I'm tempted to Digg and Slashdot this story because it's along the lines of the Stolen Sidekick story.
 


engaged said:
nice mod picking jon, jeez!!!

everyone blame jon
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He was never a mod..

A Guides are there for guidance and mentorship.. he was clean for a long time, only had one issue with him and he settled it fairly quickly and apologized to it and also submitted a lot of good info. What are ya gonna do.. shit like this happens whether you try and control it or not. Scamming happens man, you should know it best out of all of us with the pedo partner you had. :D
 
It's a small internet. I can't count how many times over the last decade I've seen people absolutely implode in the quest for a fast buck.

Hopefully this guy cleans up his act and does right by his current and past clients. Reparations sound like they're in order.
 
lazar said:
So about a month and a few days after I commission him to do a site for me, I still don't have the site. I was told it would be done in 48 hours, definitely not. I kept giving the guy chance after chance, which I probably shouldn't have done, and I got the standard "I'll have it for you tomorrow definitely" response about 10 times. He rarely responded to IM's, but then about a week into it, he was trying to sell me viddex.com. Damn, did he answer IM's then. Everytime I would come back from away he would try to convince me to buy this site for over an hour. Then for about a week his "Girlfriend, Fiance, and Wife" would all answer his IM's saying he was sick. But his latest excuse is that one of his friends died in the line of fire over in Iraq. I don't know if this is true or not, but if it isn't, that's pretty shitty. He said that about two weeks ago. I then heard from him about a week ago saying I'd have the site next day, nope no site to this day. Anyways, just be weary of this guy and his company. He's also been scamming people at YE - Everyone Be AWARE!!!...Of Cre8tiv-Vision - Young Entrepreneur Forums which is pretty shitty seeing as it's all kids there. I've filed a claim with paypal so I'll probably be getting my money back, but still, he's scammed about 5 people that I can count.


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You should have followed our conversations on PM up dude! :)

Seriously that sucks... hope you get it sorted.
 
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