I love Rand as much as the next individualist, but she was writing fiction, and didn't actually understand economics or value theory.
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In considering the spectrum of political philosophies, I'd say it was fairly extreme. As in, far from the middle or most commonly held beliefs.
You disagree?
Your positions may have merits, but that doesn't necessarily translate to a practical application given the world we live in.
My viewpoint is informed by reality and practicality. You can tell me its extreme and dangerous, but I can look at the hundreds of millions of people that live peaceful, happy, productive lives in social democracies. They may be "slaves" in your mind, but that does not make it true. By definition a slave is someone who is wholly subject to another.
Look, I understand why you feel like it's slavery. But the reality is, you can walk out your door right now and go just about anywhere you want to, and do just about anything you want to, and you're not accountable to anyone. Yeah, there are rules, but there always are, and always will be in any kind of civil society.
now you know why we are in dept. everyone expect easy money and wants someone to hand over money to your hands and pay off your bills. always see both sides before opinionating so fast. and when opinionating so fast people will opinion your opininating and you will opinioniate them back. if confused? try reading it slowly. keep the peace folks.
Are you certain she did not understand these things? I am not certain the specific things that you are claiming she did not understand.
Clearly she had a handle on economics. It permeates her books - the free market, capitalism, socialism, government control etc. She may not have been getting into the nitty gritty of the money supply and the central bank though she is known to have had a close relationship with Alan Greenspan (prior to his fed days, though he chose her to stand beside him when he was the sworn into the council of economic advisers for President Ford) they had to have discussed economics.
Value theory? She clearly has an opinion and thought out approach to societal, economic, productive value.
Absolutely. She misunderstood much of economics. She was amazing on individualism and a huge influence on me but she got a lot wrong with the nightwatchman state. She didn't understand that without markets, there can be no rational economic calculation (capital and goods allocation). She was for monopolies in the social services of defense and law, both of which originated in the market. She was also for foreign policy aggression, none of which is compatible with freedom.
I'd say her biggest mistake was claiming there was an objective ethic. Like you said, a society which honors certain things. A rational society doesn't have to honor those things, they are baked into prosperity. Freedom doesn't work if it is on a pedestal, but it is understood intellectually as the only rational course of action in productive social affairs.
What I can think we can take away as affiliate marketers is when the economy is at a rough point then companies are going to allocate their budgets to what works and if Online marketing and advertising performs the best then we will all still have our jobs.
Finally. An opportunity to post this.
What do you mean psoting this? B.Obama serving USSR?
Ron Paul needs to stop using his smart ass way of speaking and actually learn to communicate issues so people understand.
Sure I get what he is saying and so does Wickedfire because the average IQ here is likely above average - but he needs to learn to communicate tot he average and below average IQ individuals.
^^THIS, unfortunately the vast majority of today's voters are trained to expect short, easy to digest, vague bullet points from their politicians.
I think Paul is a bright guy, and is refreshing in a lot of ways, but he doesn't stand a chance of appealing enough to the mainstream with his approach. I'm sure he feels he'd be "just like the other politicians" if he did that, but you gotta read from the same playbook as the "others" if you want a fighting chance at taking the highest political office in the land.
The first semi-decent 3-page economics/politics thread in months... and I almost missed it. Looks like there's still hope for wf after all.
Hmm, I havent really thought about this. He does make comparisons of the US defaulting to not paying your mortgage, ect. Ill have to dumb myself down a bit next time I watch him and see what I think.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html?_r=1
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Back in the 1980s and 1990s, tax rates for the rich were far higher, and my percentage rate was in the middle of the pack. According to a theory I sometimes hear, I should have thrown a fit and refused to invest because of the elevated tax rates on capital gains and dividends.
I didn’t refuse, nor did others. I have worked with investors for 60 years and I have yet to see anyone — not even when capital gains rates were 39.9 percent in 1976-77 — shy away from a sensible investment because of the tax rate on the potential gain. People invest to make money, and potential taxes have never scared them off. And to those who argue that higher rates hurt job creation, I would note that a net of nearly 40 million jobs were added between 1980 and 2000. You know what’s happened since then: lower tax rates and far lower job creation."
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Back in the 1980s and 1990s, tax rates for the rich were far higher, and my percentage rate was in the middle of the pack. According to a theory I sometimes hear, I should have thrown a fit and refused to invest because of the elevated tax rates on capital gains and dividends.
I didn’t refuse, nor did others. I have worked with investors for 60 years and I have yet to see anyone — not even when capital gains rates were 39.9 percent in 1976-77 — shy away from a sensible investment because of the tax rate on the potential gain. People invest to make money, and potential taxes have never scared them off. And to those who argue that higher rates hurt job creation, I would note that a net of nearly 40 million jobs were added between 1980 and 2000. You know what’s happened since then: lower tax rates and far lower job creation."
Warren Buffet should never speak about politics. He's a shadow of the man his father was.
Also, lame appeal to authority.
Also, one of the world's richest guys says tax me more. But here is the thing. He could just give the government more money any time he wants.
You know why he doesn't? Because he has a political agenda for everyone else.
Also, lame appeal to authority.
Also, one of the world's richest guys says tax me more. But here is the thing. He could just give the government more money any time he wants.
You know why he doesn't? Because he has a political agenda for everyone else.
Warren buffet also makes $100k a year , the rest of his wealth is in stock holdings which aren't taxable till sold.
He's just advocating taxes on his competition , big surprise there.
He's just advocating taxes on his competition , big surprise there.