This song gets me pumped!

I agree with everything in your post bro except for this part:

Dude actually has a decent flow, and is most definitively "talented", regardless of whether you like his music personally. This song is pop music for airplay (I still dig it and put it on blast weekly), but the kid is talented lyrically...most people cannot "flow" the way he does. He's not amazingly gifted with words like someone like Yelawolf or Eminem, but he honestly probably has more fans than Yelawolf...for that reason alone.

People hate on Yelawolf and tell me they just can't get into him as his delivery style is so unique. IMO he is a "rapper's rapper". If you are into writing hip hop music/freestyle poetry/lyricism etc...Yelawolf is fucking CRAZY on some of his tracks. Dude does some crazy shit with words, I love it...but I totally understand why some of my friends can't get into him (and these are friends that like rap music in general). Hell, i can only take so much of Yelawolf, but you gotta respect people that have put time into perfecting their craft.

People hate on lil wayne all day, but I will never do that as a fan of rap music because the dude is MAD talented lyrically. He makes A LOT of absolute shit music, but every now and then he'll drop something amazing. I'm sure he's busy writing for all his label too, nicki minaj and all them sure as hell aren't writing those lyrics lol.

tldr: Respect Mac Miller as hustler AND a lyricist
 


lol @ lil wayne writing his own lyrics.

I'm sorry bro, please go listen to some Carters/Carter Drought mixtapes etc, then listen to his REALLY old stuff, dude progressed into one of the greatest lyricists of all time...this is really not debatable within the industry. You can like other music and still respect the dude...I don't understand people sometimes. I don't listen to anything recent by him at all, but he will be remembered along with Jay-Z as one of the greats, no question. Some of his older mixtapes are still better than the full albums most artists put out there.

I agree, Mac is kind of a cornball, which is why I mentioned WHY he is so successful right now, add to that the pic of his average fans etc. I don't know how you can listen top some of freestyles/less known/even some of the popular shit like Frick Park Market and NOT respect his flow. Kids uses some cornball lyrics, but his transitioning/flow is not something most people can pull off, you gotta respect it. Especially if you rap/freestyle/poetry yourself in competitions etc. You can just pick up on that unique talent that most youtube wannabe rappers nowadays try to force out and end up sounding like they're reading a ghetto nursery rhyme.

As I said though, Yelawolf makes Mac Miller look like a shrimp in the lyrics department. Yelllerrrrrrr
 
pinchy and tony, what kind of rap artists do you listen too, just curious?

right now i just went thru that rich forever mixtape, couple of bangers but kinda meh. ross is another dude people hate on, but he single handedly proved that NOTHING else matters if you make the best music (regarding the whole 50 beef where ppl said he would get bodied etc). dude is THE ARTIST right now, features on everyone's tracks, he came outta that 50 cent beef a winner IMO. I don't see Ross going away anytime soon...

also Khalifa is a boss, mad talented but sometimes hit or miss for me i dunno I get sick of the lazzzzzy flow sometimes I think. i like his California jam recently, had that on repeat
 
I'm sorry bro, please go listen to some Carters/Carter Drought mixtapes etc, then listen to his REALLY old stuff, dude progressed into one of the greatest lyricists of all time...this is really not debatable within the industry. You can like other music and still respect the dude...I don't understand people sometimes. I don't listen to anything recent by him at all, but he will be remembered along with Jay-Z as one of the greats, no question. Some of his older mixtapes are still better than the full albums most artists put out there.

As I said though, Yelawolf makes Mac Miller look like a shrimp in the lyrics department. Yelllerrrrrrr

Yeah I agree. Lil Wayne was good when he first came out, but then he went downhill.
 
I've been a huge fan of Mac for a while.

280 shows last year? Where'd you hear that, that seams really intense. If you're numbers are correct, then he pulled in over 11 mill last year. Very impressive.


Mac Miller - Donald Trump - YouTube

Hate this kid of you want, but he is a true hustler.

Played 280 shows last year averaging 40k a night, his success is purely based on his Youtube videos (240,697,322 views) and twitter account (1.6M followers) // listed in Forbes top 30 under 30 // Signed to a indie hometown label.

Got my respect.
 
, dude progressed into one of the greatest lyricists of all time...this is really not debatable within the industry.

Wha? Now this is meaningless, but google lil wayne "worst lyricist" and there are 1,000s of people saying or debating about if he is the worst lyricist of all time. In my opinion, probably 90% of rappers that were on labels up until 1996 or so are better than Wayne.


As for Mac Miller, that first video is aimed more at the mass market, while something like below is more like what "hip hop heads" would be into :

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MMI1hEScO8]Mac Miller "La La La La" - YouTube[/ame]
 
You're a fucking idiot if you think that kid made 11 million last year. There's no way he played that many shows or made that kinda cash per show.

agree

also, remember Asher Roth? He just had to lease a Ford Escape from my friend stealership
 
This song gets me motivated

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h30CvPTlxrE]Jay-Z - Dead Presidents (Original Verses) [w/ Lyrics] - YouTube[/ame]
 
I've been a huge fan of Mac for a while.

280 shows last year? Where'd you hear that, that seams really intense. If you're numbers are correct, then he pulled in over 11 mill last year. Very impressive.

I recalled 280 for some reason guess it was just "over 200" see photo below.

You're a fucking idiot if you think that kid made 11 million last year. There's no way he played that many shows or made that kinda cash per show.

See Pics directly from Forbes // Also Shut your mouth, before I fuck it.

agree

also, remember Asher Roth? He just had to lease a Ford Escape from my friend stealership

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$40k seems like it's a bit high. I've heard figures closer to $10k-15k to book him for a show. But I'm sure he's also caking on merchandise.

I like his music... it's low-octane shit with good beats. I probably would have scoffed at the idea if you put his music in front of me a decade ago but I've become less of a hip hop snob. *shrug*
 
Me liky this base. Turn it up if you can.
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