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Cameraphone sucks, this actually turned out nice though you'd never know it from the pic:
Insane Dubstep Music Video
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:thumbsup: Listening to Special Dedication right now
Cameraphone sucks, this actually turned out nice though you'd never know it from the pic:
I will say that Dubstep is the next logical step in mainstream music. This generation churns out a SHOCKING amount of sub-par music because mass appeal has outpaced quality. Producers are making more of the music than the actual singers and musicians. We are actually to the point where "singer/songwriter" needs to be pointed out separately because it's no longer a foregone conclusion. Look at almost any genre.
Mainstream Rap - Nobody has anything to say other than "look how much champagne I can buy with my record advance". If they tried to lay lyrics like that over old Jazzy Jeff beats nobody would buy the shit. That's why producers like Timbaland get so much press.. because the producers are now propping up the entire genre. You think Puff Daddy became a multimillionaire based on the strength of his lyrics? REALLY?
Mainstream Rock - Ever heard The Offspring live? Fucking tone deaf, but you'd never pick it up to the same degree on their albums. Imagine if Steve Perry had been tone deaf. One Hit Republic?? They had to drag Timbaland into the studio and put him in the fucking video to actually get a decent single and they haven't been able to match its success again without a guy who ISNT IN THE FUCKING BAND.
Mainstream Metal/Hardcore/Whatever - Put on a Floorpunch album alongside ZAO. Hear the difference? Notice all these metal bands like Winds of Plague inserting HUGE 808 bass hits into their songs? Real drums don't have an 808 button, that's a producer. Watch the videos of Suicide Silence in the studio back in Jersey. Listen to ANYTHING Killswitch Engage has put out since Jesse left.
Dubstep is easy to follow, doesn't require listeners to be from any one subculture or background (not a lot of trust fund babies at Blood For Blood shows), and has no existing standards to be measured against. It's for a generation that, largely, tethers themselves to one trend or another for a few years at a time because most aren't worth keeping alive. Watch how many "steam punk" kids are around in 10 years. The subcultures built on music are now filled with people who came for the trend and stayed for the music.
Mass appeal for the easily-amused who aren't actually interested in music.
Mainstream Rap - Nobody has anything to say other than "look how much champagne I can buy with my record advance". If they tried to lay lyrics like that over old Jazzy Jeff beats nobody would buy the shit. That's why producers like Timbaland get so much press.. because the producers are now propping up the entire genre. You think Puff Daddy became a multimillionaire based on the strength of his lyrics? REALLY?
Mainstream Rock - Ever heard The Offspring live? Fucking tone deaf, but you'd never pick it up to the same degree on their albums. Imagine if Steve Perry had been tone deaf. One Hit Republic?? They had to drag Timbaland into the studio and put him in the fucking video to actually get a decent single and they haven't been able to match its success again without a guy who ISNT IN THE FUCKING BAND.
Mainstream Metal/Hardcore/Whatever - Put on a Floorpunch album alongside ZAO. Hear the difference? Notice all these metal bands like Winds of Plague inserting HUGE 808 bass hits into their songs? Real drums don't have an 808 button, that's a producer. Watch the videos of Suicide Silence in the studio back in Jersey. Listen to ANYTHING Killswitch Engage has put out since Jesse left.
Dubstep is easy to follow, doesn't require listeners to be from any one subculture or background (not a lot of trust fund babies at Blood For Blood shows), and has no existing standards to be measured against. It's for a generation that, largely, tethers themselves to one trend or another for a few years at a time because most aren't worth keeping alive. Watch how many "steam punk" kids are around in 10 years. The subcultures built on music are now filled with people who came for the trend and stayed for the music.
Mass appeal for the easily-amused who aren't actually interested in music.
Dear dogfighter:
1) People with always listen to mainstream music.
2) There's nothing you can do about it.
I see most of these dubstep kids going to progressive house and french house though which is a good thing.
1) People with always listen to mainstream music.
2) There's nothing you can do about it.
I see most of these dubstep kids going to progressive house and french house though which is a good thing.
3. People will always have opinions
4. It will almost always be me
5. There's nothing you can do about it
6. I'm a gay webmaster
4. It will almost always be me
5. There's nothing you can do about it
6. I'm a gay webmaster
Seriously, everyone has their own tastes and no one can change that.
This is one of my favorite pieces:
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You're speaking the truth, but more producer involvement isn't necessarily the problem. Frank Sinatra, Elvis, many classic country stars, and others would sing and do little to no song writing or instrument playing. Ice Cube wrote lyrics for Eazy E and Dre did the beats. If Eazy did both of those for himself then the songs would have been worse. Def Leppard and other rock bands wouldn't have been the same without help from producers like Mutt Lange. Michael Jackson had Quincy Jones, the guitar solo on "Beat It" was by Eddie Van Halen, etc.
Teenagers tend to have the most interest in new music. Because of this the major labels over the years focused more and more on them. In the 1970s when they signed someone like Elton John or Billy Joel they knew that they would have some appeal to teenagers, but that also people in their 50s might be able to get into them.
If the labels back then had the attitude they have today, they may have said "This Elton John guy's ballads sound like old people music. I'm not sure how appealing this will be to teens. I guess we can't sign him." Or they would have told him that they would sign him if he used less piano, less lyrics, repeated the chorus even more, or something like that.
A well thought-out argument, and I think (oddly enough) it parallels what you see going on in cartoons. Those of us who grew up on Garfield comic strips in the paper scoff at all this CGI cartoon madness with characters that are little more than stacks of polygons. The kids love it because they don't have exposure to much else. When I was a kid and I saw the old B&W Mickey Mouse cartoons I thought they were shit and couldn't imagine why people ever watched them.
I think Doug Stanhope was right when he said that we are going to be the first generation of old people who think the generation after us is a bunch of pussies, instead of "wild youngsters". And they are.
anything you can hear can be music if you interpret it as such
I will happily overturn the First Amendment and sacrifice my own right to free speech just to make sure you never say another word.