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lose lose win said:
I'm sorry but, vegetarianism is downright retarded. You need animal proteins, you ARE animal proteins.. Why the fuck would anyone think it logical to avoid eating the very substance that you are made of? High quality animal proteins and fat are absolutely essential, and you're really shorting yourself if you don't at all consume it. I understand the mantra behind vegetarianism, but it's flawed and misleading.

Many times, someone will be eating like total shit... and all of the sudden up and convert to vegetarianism. Trading big macs for salads, and cokes for juices, and are officially "converted" by the results that will obviously occur when you cut out all the shit, and integrate essential vitamins, minerals, and hydration that you've been starving yourself of for god knows how long. Ya, no shit you'll feel amazing....but that doesn't mean you don't need animal fats and proteins. YOU NEED PLENTY OF BOTH. You will have ill effects from withholding from your body what it needs. Vegetarians can go on for years feeling great and with improved health, but 10-15 years down the road you're literally going to deteriorate. You will also look like a little bitch. (plz don't post pics of vegetarian bodybuilders, I know all about what they do as well)..

For fucks sake... go buy yourself a fresh grass fed steak that you don't buy from a grocery store, and cook it up with some free range eggs from hens that have actually eaten the diet they were designed to eat...insects and random shit, instead of corn. Can't overstate the importance of eating animals that have eaten a natural diet.. You know the old saying: "You are what you eat."... really, it's more like.."You are what you eat has eaten." The difference between cows, for example, that have eaten a grass diet instead of a corn diet is absolute. The whole percentages of omega 3/6/9 fats are skewed. Good animal fat is golden for your health. Again, it's what you're made of..organs, brain, etc.. This seems like common sense shit to me.

That said.. veggies are just as crucial... not trying to understate their role in overall health.
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Meat? Who needs meat if you can have this:
Spirulina (dietary supplement) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
paleo diet is where its at. caveman style

i like meat and vegetables/fruit equally. organic vegetables are delicious as hell.
 
I can understand why vegans piss people off. Just like religious people piss people off.

No one should try to tell you how to live. But anyone in here trying to say that being vegan isn't healthier is wrong.

But guess what, I'm not going to list a bunch of facts and figures and argue. What I will tell you is this. Become vegan for 2-3 months, and see if you experience better sleep, focus, more energy, less stomach aches and random body pains etc.

I have never met anyone that tested being vegan for a couple of months and then went back because they did not experience any of the above benefits.

Only people that just craved the taste of meat or needed cheese. And that's all mental will power right there. But EVERYONE experiences the benefits I listed, and you can't tell me that doesn't mean something.
 
By the way Forks Over Knives is a great movie that covers research done on eating a plant based diet and is available on netflix.
 
Been there done that.

After experience both worlds, here's my take:

- Eat real, whole, fresh, unprocessed food
- Eat *mostly* fruits and vegetables (should be the majority of your diet)
- Eat something like fish, meat, or eggs once per day

If you do that you'll be ahead of 99% of the population and should be pretty damn healthy.
 
mpbiz said:
But guess what, I'm not going to list a bunch of facts and figures and argue. What I will tell you is this. Become vegan for 2-3 months, and see if you experience better sleep, focus, more energy, less stomach aches and random body pains etc.

I have never met anyone that tested being vegan for a couple of months and then went back because they did not experience any of the above benefits.
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When somebody goes vegan, that often means cutting out nearly all processed foods. Have you ever considered that you might still reap those benefits if you eat like I described in my above post? There are plenty of reformed vegans out there who eventually arrive at this conclusion. My point is that animal products are not the problem, but rather all the chemicals and processing that otherwise natural healthy foods are subjected to. Not to mention GMO produce and farm raised animals fed corn slop with a side of growth hormone.
 
Ajna Style said:
I was so happy to see such an interesting topic begin and was happy I hadn't ate any meat all day, then I saw Bauss post.... now I need a steak from home! (Which happens to be Oklahoma.)

Faceblogger are you originally from OK?
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One thing I miss about Oklahoma is straight from the farm beef.
 
lschmidt said:
When somebody goes vegan, that often means cutting out nearly all processed foods. Have you ever considered that you might still reap those benefits if you eat like I described in my above post? There are plenty of reformed vegans out there who eventually arrive at this conclusion. My point is that animal products are not the problem, but rather all the chemicals and processing that otherwise natural healthy foods are subjected to. Not to mention GMO produce and farm raised animals fed corn slop with a side of growth hormone.
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No I bet he didn't consider it, because it's more or less a religion and it dictates all animal products are bad for you.

You should really change that to factory farm raised animals. I know a bunch of ranchers that don't feed their animals corn slop or growth hormones. They will supplement with cake and/or crops they grew themselves during winter months when native grasses and other things aren't plentiful. They do give them antibiotics, but that has 0 effect on your health.
 
lschmidt said:
When somebody goes vegan, that often means cutting out nearly all processed foods. Have you ever considered that you might still reap those benefits if you eat like I described in my above post? There are plenty of reformed vegans out there who eventually arrive at this conclusion. My point is that animal products are not the problem, but rather all the chemicals and processing that otherwise natural healthy foods are subjected to. Not to mention GMO produce and farm raised animals fed corn slop with a side of growth hormone.
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It's not about processed foods. And it doesn't matter what the cows are eating.

Meat and milk are both directly linked to an increased risk of cancer + a ton of other things.
 
Steve Jobs used to go on weird diets and fasted on fruits. Some people get a high out of it; or it just proves you got a bad ass level of self control.
 
Vege for 4 weeks now. Lost 10lbs, feel great.

Stems from visiting abattoirs and food manufactures for my day job. Every time i ate meat i saw these places in my head which was awful, this is despite eating free-range organic meat.
 
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