War with Iran Begins March 20th



Excepting Paul of course, right?

Last time we had a defensive war was Pearl Harbor.

I discounted Paul since there's no way they will let him in.

Peal Harbor - FDR baited the Japanese by signing some military pact that he knew was considered an act of war. The US military intelligence had cracked Japanese codes 6 months before the attack - they knew they were coming. It was staged to open another battlefront to benefit the usual parties. Details of all that are in the public record, most of it in the official investigation that was done shortly after the attack but was lost in all the war mongering and nationalist hoopla.
 
Peal Harbor - FDR baited the Japanese by signing some military pact that he knew was considered an act of war. The US military intelligence had cracked Japanese codes 6 months before the attack - they knew they were coming. It was staged to open another battlefront to benefit the usual parties. Details of all that are in the public record, most of it in the official investigation that was done shortly after the attack but was lost in all the war mongering and nationalist hoopla.
I've heard this theory, but what I don't get is that the MIC wasn't around yet at that time... Weren't all the biggest name war machine corps born in the coming years?
 
There have been quite a few essays on FDR's tactics to get the US to enter WWII. The ultimate beneficiaries as usual were financial cronies and an enormous government expansion. I can't give you any links for further reading since I didn't bookmark them; I guess I was too concerned about Snooki being pregnant (who the hell is that anyway?)
 
I've heard this theory, but what I don't get is that the MIC wasn't around yet at that time... Weren't all the biggest name war machine corps born in the coming years?

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Day-Deceit-Truth-About-Harbor/dp/0743201299]Amazon.com: Day Of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor (9780743201292): Robert Stinnett: Books[/ame]


That's the major book on it. I haven't read it, but apparently the author thinks that FDR was legitimately worried that Germany was going to take over Europe and Russia, and Japan was going to expand. The US public didn't want to get involved, but that changed after Pearl Harbor.
 
trading oil in other currencies would actually strengthen the dollar. bernanke/obama would love it if it weakened the dollar.

always remember, the media is full of shit.

How could that be ?

90% of world's currencies are tradet agains the USD.
Every nation on earth has to buy USD and sell their own or other currencies to obtain oil.
This only strengthen the dollar. In fact , without the petrodollar trade the USD would have crashed already.
 
That said, Israhell STILL thinks they can fire off some missiles (I think there are 100 bases and a few thousand nukes, fairly sure they would use them) and go to war with Iran.

I don't know what their endgame is.
They want to start WWIII for some gay reason.

You got it wrong. This is not about a full blown out war with ground invasion and shit, at least not from Israeli side.
Read up on Operation Opera.
 
Ok, which one of you guys put this together?
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^LOL, funny, yet scary stuff. Didn't know about the enterprise being decommissioned soon... Would be a horrible, unspeakable crime equivalent to 9/11 or perhaps even the Holocaust in my mind if this were to occur. (Those ships be big, boys.)

Luckily drspiffness' work here is now on the public record and would likely prevent it. Ppl will be watching for it the day it would happen. Too risky.

Anyway, just having the media report that Iran "Has a Nuke" and plans to use it on Jerusalem is enough reason to invade apparently. Not needed.
 
The how isn't really an issue as there are a million ways we could go to war with the American public majority approval. Look at the invasion of Iraq. "An extremist group located in Afghanistan carried out a terrorist attack against American citizens. . . so we're invading Iraq!" I will be shocked if we're not in Iran by the end of 2012 though. I consider the most likely scenario a preemptive strike by Israel followed by full scale "UN" invasion. Obama has stated over and over again that we will back up Israel and Israel has been itching to blow Iran off the face of the map for decades (centuries if you consider Iran the Arab front rather than the sovereign nation). The value of controlling the straight is incredibly high and military resistance is comparatively low, that fact alone should tell you Amuricka will go after it.
 
As day 8 of the ground war approaches, my heart goes out to those families that have already suffered the irreparable loss of a family member or loved one. I hope other patriotic WF members join with me in reiterating our support for the American fighting man in Iran during "Operation Bum Rush the Guy with the Nuke," and will continue to show our support until every one of them comes home.