For those of you in college or who have gone.....

1 year away from a math degree. Planned on being an actuary. lol Wish I would have thought about how god damn boring that job would be before I decided that! Still definitely do not regret my major or getting a degree though. I love knowing.

Only regret: not preparing for real analysis! God Damn, class is ridic!
Probably should have made my emphasis computer science too considering how I make a living. Oh well.
 


I wished I took more class related to marketing and business management. I took some entry level ones only.
 
i wish i hadn't gone to a small engineering school for undergrad. i went to a large school for grad school and it was completely different. there were actually girls there...
 
Well I've just finished up my college recently so I have some relevant advice. If I could do it again I would...

-Spend more time meeting new people (especially girls) and trying new things. College is all about checking out the rest of the world, getting out of your comfort zone, and gaining life experiences. I've purposely embarrassed myself a bunch of times. You get to realize that shit really isn't a big deal and gives you confidence to go and try stuff you never thought you could do. I used to be timid and shy as a kid, now I really don't give a shit.

-Learning EVERYTHING. I spent a good amount of my afternoons in the library reading as much non fiction as I could get my hands on. Biographies of successful people, books on Psychology, Entrepreneurship, Marketing, Economics (not the shitty Keynesian stuff they try and force down your throat in class), NLP, Pick Up Artist shit, MBTI, Religion, Programming, Philosophy, Political Science. Just jump in on a topic, read as much as you can, take notes, don't worry about finishing the books. Jump into a new topic, learn as much as you can. It's a pretty amazing experience once all the different fields of knowledge you have all come together and you start recognizing patterns and seeing how they all relate and interconnect.

-Take Business classes and Computer Science classes. Don't fall into a clique of just hanging out with the CS nerds in the same building (where you'll hardly ever see girls) or the Business kids that think they're the shit. Make friends with everyone on campus. Liberal Art classes have a whole different feel to them than just the hard Science classes. Try to understand everyone else's point of view. Don't judge, just try and understand it. It helps a shitload in business as well as marketing your campaigns to a particular demographic.

-Start a business in college. You'll have access to a ton of resources and many people are willing to you help you out since you are a student. You have nothing to lose and the experience you gain will help a TON.

-FIGHT for your grades. Most teachers are willing to bend the rules if you talk with them. I've realized if you basically present a case demanding a higher grade, show very compelling reasons, they are likely to help you out. If you're between a C and a D in the class, fight like hell at the end of the semester and keep reminding the professor how you need to pass this class to get into the next one and graduate on time etc, etc.

-Party like crazy. YOLO and all that other shit. Have and create kick ass stories to tell your future coworkers or business partners. It'll makes them jealous and realize you've done way more cool shit than them. (HINT: write down your stories in some word document because you're likely to forget most of them otherwise. It's fun as hell to look back on it and be like HOLY FUCK I can't believe I forgot about that night.)

That's my rough outline. There's a couple other points I'll come up with later, but it's late.
 
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Also - not sure if you are already, but start taking big swings at cash early when you have little or no bills. About as low risk as your going to have in life. If you hit, you will be in fantastic shape when you get into real world.
 
My advice is to take a course you really enjoy and to drop out or switch majors if you don't enjoy it. Life is too short to waste on a boring or very difficult course. Study for life not for school. Unless you want to be a doctor, lawyer, engineer or investment banker, I really can't see any reason to study something difficult.

I would have chosen something with lots of girls if I had to do it over. College is about the social life unless you want to go into one of those high paying professions as mentioned above.

Most absolutely study abroad. Aim for one full year, best experience of my life was studying abroad.
 
All college degrees are not equal. Would you trust a nurse/pharmacist/optometrist/doctor/dentist/lawyer/accountant/etc. without a degree?

I didn't think so.

I would trust all of the above, as long as they have at least ten years of experience in their field. In fact, I'd probably trust someone with ten years on-the-job experience, over someone who has just finished their degree.
 
I would trust all of the above, as long as they have at least ten years of experience in their field. In fact, I'd probably trust someone with ten years on-the-job experience, over someone who has just finished their degree.
I guess I should have added "all other things being equal". My bad.
 
1 thing, and 1 tip for you.

Thing: I Would have outsourced the majority of my homework instead of some of it. (for the stuff I already knew and thought the homework was pointless)

Tip: Never let schooling interfere with your education.
 
College is what you make of it. If you take an easy major like psychology/business/sociology/communications/drama and take all the easiest classes and finish in 4 years, of course you're not going to get anything out of it, except a piece of paper.

If on the other hand you take a "real" major like electrical engineering/computer science/chemical engineering etc..., work your ass off to graduate on time, actually take the time to understand the concepts instead of just bullshitting through them, you will get a lot out of it.

You will acquire fundamental theory that allows you to understand the underlying issues of your field. You will acquire a work ethic from all those all-nighters completing hard projects and studying your ass off for tough midterms. And you will eventually get a "piece of paper" that means something. A lot of people here will tell you you don't need a degree to succeed in life; true, but it sure does makes things easier. In hard engineering fields, most employers will toss out your resume if they don't see a B.S., and for a lot of engineering jobs you will hit a "glass ceiling" unless you get your masters. Even if you're not interested in getting a 9-5 job, the critical/abstract thinking skills, the theoretical understanding, and the work ethic you get from a good education are more than worth it, and will define you for the rest of your life.

Ultimately, your online business might one day fail. But your degree no one can ever take from you. And a "real" degree with a modicum of knowledge will guarantee you a decent job at any time in your life, at a wage on par or above what the "ballers" of wickedfire earn.

Some more thoughts: all colleges and professors are not equal. Higher education in the USA is incredibly diverse, with a lot of junk there of unaccredited schools and poor schools that are just there to take your money and deliver you a subpar education. Please please please actually research your school before you attend it. Make sure it's accredited, make sure it ranks well for your major, and make sure the professors are actually good. Ultimately the "brand" of your school will be as important as your major. An electrical engineering degree from Caltech is a lot more impressive than an electrical engineering degree from Florida State.

Also, please please PLEASE avoid debt. I'm of European descent, and the casual disregard with which Americans load up on 6-figures in debt while getting a useless major in a shitty school astonishes me. There is always a way to make enough money to pay for college. I know people who worked 2 jobs and made honor's roll now graduating with 0 debt. I know a friend who uses his affiliate monies to pay tuition. And I know a guy who worked in coal mine to pay for his tuition in Colorado. If these people can do it, so can you. Avoid the idiotic mainstream, avoid the debt, actually work instead of partying over the weekends, apply for scholarships, and you will make it. There's amazing opportunities out there for financial aid or working part time, and most people simply don't use them because they're too damn lazy. Then 4 years later, when they have $125k in debt and a Drama degree from some private liberal arts school in Oregon, they go blaming Wall Street and asking Obama for handouts. Don't be that fuckup. Have some fucking dignity and common sense.
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I have a Mechanical Engineering Major, and also hard core Finance. ALL it made me is a robot, even though I am very efficient in many things I do, just as a Robot is. I have never studied a book on literature since high school.

I was always in awe of the American education, and I like the fact that you guys can take Arts Subjects seriously. I mean, here, Arts is for losers, unless you are in the Iviest of the Ivy, which produces bureaucrats and famous journalists and stuff..

Majoring in a core subject is great, but what I do lack is, and will somewhat regret is that I was never taught about Philosophy, or Homer by a some grey haired professor.. I would never be able to discuss the Nuances of Macbeth and Othello with a group of smart young people, and some crazy professor. It is not about whether you can apply it in a Job, but I feel that you are not complete if you don't have an education. And I feel that soft subjects teach you how to really think... Not just base every judgement on facts and data.. You learn to be creative... conjure up ideas. and stuff.

I have always felt that education is what made America a great country. Lack of it is what is causing it's downfall today.. Too many capitalists who are uneducated I guess....

Just my thought...
But I never studied there so I wouldn't know.
My brother did, and it gave him a much better perspective about work and life.
I am still a heartless capitalist.
 
1 thing, and 1 tip for you.

Thing: I Would have outsourced the majority of my homework instead of some of it. (for the stuff I already knew and thought the homework was pointless)

haha funny you mentioned that.

I managed to outsource around 3 projects here. They were book reviews I had to do in different classes, managed to get some of my content writers to write me it for around $5.

Got a 90% in most of the projects too. Definitely one of my highlights.
 
college is wack unless you really have something u want to learn, and think that some bozo that's never tried anything himself is a better teacher than reading a highly focused book written by an expert ....

That is a very ignorant view of college. Either that or you've been to a very bad university.

If you're on the right course, you should be learning from people who are at the cutting edge of research on their subject. It's a misconception that lecturers are just "teachers".

As for "a book written by an expert"? Who do you think the experts who are write these books?

Having said that, I'd say don't go just for the sake of going. You will get a poor return on investment. I did that with my first degree, and it was a total waste of time and money for a year.

When I dropped out and changed universities/courses, I moved to something with real value, because I knew what I wanted.


Also, in my personal opinion, business courses are a total waste of time unless you want to get a job at a corporation. If you want to be an entrepreneur, find a mentor, don't go to college.
 
I went back to finish my bachelors degree a couple of years ago. Never had time until I started doing IM full-time and although I didn't expect to need the degree, and haven't used the degree, I'm really glad I got it.

I hate leaving shit undone and it nagged at me for years so basically I went back for personal reasons, not financial. You just have to decide why it is important to you and whether it will be worth the time and money to do it.


QFT. The biggest thing I got from my four year Computing degree? That I could see a major undertaking through to completion. Previous to that, I'd never finished anything. Bit annoyed I graduated with a 2:1 instead of the 1st I should have got if I wasn't such a slacker, but not a bad effort overall.

EDIT: Something to add - from a professor's perspective (I'm married to one). Assuming you're on a decent course, and have a good prof:

1. Spend some time researching them. Download their papers and read them. Take an interest in their research. Nobody else does this, and you will REALLY stand out if you do. As I mentioned above, academics are primarily researchers, not teachers, and you can get most value from them in that respect.
2. Turn up to stuff on time, and do the assignments.
3. However creative you think your excuse for not doing something is, your professor has heard it at least 15 times before. If you are running behind, be honest with them. Most academics fucking hate bullshitters.
4. Do your preparation, so you don't ask stupid questions, but having DONE that, don't be afraid to ask for their help.

I'm sure there are others, but the main thing is that you'll get out what you put in. College is not some magic ticket to learning or success, no matter what your parents say. It's an opportunity to either benefit hugely, or piss your time and money away. You get to decide which by your actions (probably a combination of both, which is ok ).

I occasionally bitch and whine about college being a waste of time, but I am still considering going back to do a masters/PhD at some point just for the learning experience, so it can't be all bad :)
 
I wish I had started making money online instead of getting a bachelor degree from a prestigious university......I'd be a millionaire now....true story....
 
EDIT: Something to add - from a professor's perspective (I'm married to one). Assuming you're on a decent course, and have a good prof:

EDIT: Something to add - from a students point of view (I'm about to graduate)

1st: Choose courses that either multiple choice finals or short answer. Don't do political science, you'll never get above a B+ because no one gives good grades in essay format. Also never fucking do philosophy.

2nd: Most professors get their shit from a textbook. You can find question banks for most textbooks online, buy it. It comes with a teachers guide and all the questions they use on the final. Just study that.

3rd: Choose earth and planetary science course, they are dope and hella easy.

4th: Never fucking go to class, it's a waste of time.

5th: When the final or midterm is approaching, give one day to organizing your notes and figuring out what the hell the class was about. Another 2 days for pure cramming.

Do that and university is fucking amazing.
 
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I really never saw the point of college unless you wanted a "good job" somewhere. If you are intelligent there's no reason why you can't teach yourself anything you ever wanted to know. You don't need some crusty professor to lecture you. Pick up some books, read online, whatever. I've learned more just applying myself than I ever learned in school.

Now if you want that paper and the sense of accomplishment that goes with it I say go for it, but I can't stand college grads that somehow think they're smarter than I am because they sat in classrooms for 4 years of their life or more.
 
EDIT: Something to add - from a students point of view (I'm about to graduate)

1st: Choose courses that either multiple choice finals or short answer. Don't do political science, you'll never get above a B+ because no one gives good grades in essay format. Also never fucking do philosophy.

2nd: Most professors get their shit from a textbook. You can find question banks for most textbooks online, buy it. It comes with a teachers guide and all the questions they use on the final. Just study that.

3rd: Choose earth and planetary science course, they are dope and hella easy.

4th: Never fucking go to class, it's a waste of time.

5th: When the final or midterm is approaching, give one day to organizing your notes and figuring out what the hell the class was about. Another 2 days for pure cramming.

Do that and university is fucking amazing.

Yeah, this was pretty much my approach for my 1st degree. It seems really clever at the time, but TBH I'd have been better off taking the money and travelling round the world with it for a year. With this approach, you'll have nothing to show except friends/memories of partying, and a piece of paper.

The latter is pretty much worthless after your first job, and the former you can get cheaper / better elsewhere.

Also, if you did a proper subject like biochemistry or something, you wouldn't make it past the first semester with this approach. Seriously, slacking off seems clever in your 20s, but when you get to your 30s and realise you're about 1/3rd the way through your time on the planet, it loses its appeal.
 
Yeah, this was pretty much my approach for my 1st degree. It seems really clever at the time, but TBH I'd have been better off taking the money and travelling round the world with it for a year. With this approach, you'll have nothing to show except friends/memories of partying, and a piece of paper.

The latter is pretty much worthless after your first job, and the former you can get cheaper / better elsewhere.

Also, if you did a proper subject like biochemistry or something, you wouldn't make it past the first semester with this approach. Seriously, slacking off seems clever in your 20s, but when you get to your 30s and realise you're about 1/3rd the way through your time on the planet, it loses its appeal.

Agreed, That was mostly for whoever wants to slack off with the free time they had.

Personally, it took me till about 3rd year of university to figure out that I only learn shit if I teach myself and hence going to class was useless. However I did econ, so learning graphs from scratch was a huge pain in the ass but yet again, it doesn't change that much so most of the info you can find online.

As for slacking off, yea I have times were I would smoke weed all day and go partying and then wake up with a hangover so then I had to smoke weed again and then I was fine so then I would go out again- a vicious cycle.

But for the most part, I did online ventures and offline ventures, but that's just because I go crazy if I don't have my mind thinking about stuff like that.

To tell you the truth, the biggest thing that college taught me was, basically how to work more efficiently, prioritize my time. It also gave me a huge boost of confidence in knowing I'm amazing at teaching myself shit. It also expanded my knowledge on wide array of topics, that I would never want to know about but am forced to do so to past. For example, I have an astrobiology exam tomorrow, I took the course as an elective and it's fucking great. Get to learn about how life started all the way to exploring galaxies and shit. Also took a course on information systems, - dominated that class as it was about the internet, adsense, different technologies companies use.

Point being, I think university might be handy for more abstract reasons by which you can probably learn outside of uni anyways.