UK Has Highest Violent Crime Rate in World - Great Job Gun Control

Remember, these are crimes that have been reported. Maybe for some reason the reporting rate is much higher in England. Maybe because they have surveillance cameras everywhere. Who the fuck knows.

Point is, I would feel safer walking down a street in the UK than I would in South Africa.
 
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Clarkey said:
LOL no it's not. It will make local news but there won't be no major coverage of it, unless there's something special about it.

Also that image, is made from the following source: Conservatives, EU Commission, UN. Even say's it on the image.

Do you find it hard to comprehend we have a stupid amount of crime?
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Have you ever felt like you were going to be shot at any point living here? I wouldn't disagree that we have violent crime problems, though perception is different depending on where you live.

Anyway since this thread is about gun control. I'm going to assume The Washington Post is a reliable source.

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Did op just quote the dailymail as a source?
 
I'd rather have a high percent of violent crimes committed with guns than a higher total number of violent crimes.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
Gun control in the UK is considered the most restrictive in the world, as it turns out, they are also the most violent country in the world.

If you're wondering why the United States isn't on the chart, it's because the US doesn't even rank in the top 10 for violent crime. The most recent numbers show the US has a violent crime rate of 466 per 100,000 residents.
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That is because most of your population stay inside prison .. Even China with that much population don't have so many prisoners.

# 1 United States: 2,019,234 prisoners
# 2 China: 1,549,000 prisoners

If a thug has to hit some one, atleast there should be some people outside.

Prisoners statistics - countries compared - NationMaster
 
Man, that's got to be the most stupid thing I have ever heard in my life!

The UK has the highest record of violent crime, so to solve the problem give everyone a gun?

There's a differance between violence and killing. I can walk out my front door at any time of night without the fear of getting my head blow off. I can drive my car without the fear of some road rage maniac blowing my head off. I can send my child to school feeling fairly safe that some unstable teenager won't bring their dads gun to school and shoot my daughter.

If I piss someone off in the UK I don't need to worry about them pulling a gun on me. If they won't to go toe to toe with me, that's cool, I can fight. Guns are for shit bags.

I don't care about those figures. They're not accurate. Each country has their own laws and ways to record violent crimes. In the UK, something as minor as shouting and swaring at someone is recorded as a violent crime. And the fact that the UK is the most watched country in the world means more violent crime is detected. Every other street corner has a maned CCTV camera.

That table says Africa has lower violent crime than the UK. How good is the African police at detecting and recording violent crime compared to the UK?
 
For all we know half of the 1,158,957 violent recorded crimes in the UK could be silly shouting arguments in the street.

Again, I don't have fear of being shot in the UK, and I don't have any real fear of someone being violent toward me.
 
SkyFire said:
I'd rather have a high percent of violent crimes committed with guns than a higher total number of violent crimes.
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This is the shit you have to deal with, the only thing that makes it funny is how retarded such a comment actually is. Basically you're saying:

"I'd rather have a load of people killing each other with guns, than have a load more people punching each other in the face."

"... My country doesnt have a high violence rate. We just have mass shootings every other month, but its not violence. It's gun crime!!! thats a different stat!"

Ps. I dont disagree with some of the stances on gun law in the US, it's a culture that indeed needs its own solutions and sets of rules. I do disagree with stat whoring and trying to justify problems based on other countries with completely different cultures and different mindsets.
 
AdamC said:
The USA isn't in the EU



Mexico isn't in the EU
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Yes, but the great EU land South Africa is there. And i wondered where all the lions hunting moose in scandinavia are come from.

Oh, and welcome Cananda to the EU too.
 
I also wondered why 2,3,4 are indented too, looks like someone edited it in paint or something
 
The issue with US violent crime is that our data is highly skewed by a small group of people who tend to live in large cities and make it a warzone.

It's unfortunate but true.

My county has a homicide rate of .5 per 100k. That's less than 1/3rd of the UK national average and even lower than Switzerland. Just about everyone here owns a gun and around 8% of all adults have a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

One county north of us the murder rate increases by 1200% and is at 7 per 100k with some neighborhoods being well over 25 per 100k. Their CCW permit rate is about 2% of the adult population, and gun ownership is half of what it is in my county.

I'm not going to kid anyone and say it's because my county has more guns per person. However there's a societal difference between my county and theirs in terms of demographics. Rather than going after types guns which would be are statistically irrelevant to murder, the US needs to be looking at the root cause of why people kill eachother. There's a reason we're not doing it, because subsections of the US population would be offended.
 
Chart looks like its straight from a red-top (or the daily mail). What's being counted as a violent crime anyway? Does hate speech count? What if one country says it does but another doesn't even bother recording it? Flawed
 
On behalf of chicago, i apologize for the heavy inflation of the US crime numbers.

"CHIRAQ DRILLINOIS #1 IN THE STREETS" is played on 3 of our main radio stations daily.
 
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