A good point.
The British police are presumably a lot better at keeping records than those in the Congo.
UK Has Highest Violent Crime Rate in World - Great Job Gun Control
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A good point.
The British police are presumably a lot better at keeping records than those in the Congo.
Worth reading...
Media Bias About Guns by John R. Lott, Jr.
(For those interested, Lott has written extensively on this topic.)
Media Bias About Guns by John R. Lott, Jr.
(For those interested, Lott has written extensively on this topic.)
Will just leave this here:
Why Not Renew the “Assault Weapons” Ban? Well, I’ll Tell You… « Kontradictions
Why Not Renew the “Assault Weapons” Ban? Well, I’ll Tell You… « Kontradictions
Don't look at me, I'm pro legalisation.
Although guns are available here, shotguns are easy to get a license for, rifles you get licensed if you go to a gun club for 6 months and aren't a psycho.
We're British we're violent and we fight. Yanks have guns and kill. Simple. We like a good old scrap and we're naturally violent, you pull a gun and end a life.
I think the fact that our murder rate is 3 times lower speaks volumes. But, oh yeah, lets go on stats that make it appear 'Merica is safer. Yeah right.
I think the fact that our murder rate is 3 times lower speaks volumes. But, oh yeah, lets go on stats that make it appear 'Merica is safer. Yeah right.
I need one of these:
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Simple, reliable and proven.
Because you're too fucking stupid and barbaric to control yourself with guns.
Congratulations, you're white niggers.
Sweden, Belguim, Finland, netherlands etc are much MUCH safer then usa.
If someone gets murdered with a gun its national news in the netherlands. It's almost non existent.
If someone gets murdered with a gun its national news in the netherlands. It's almost non existent.
So places like Sweden and Finland have more violent crime than Bulgaria, Serbia, and Hungary? Not likely.
I couldn't give a fuck about the UK vs US / Guns vs No Guns debate, but the abuse of statistics in this thread makes me want to go on a killing spree.
Luckily, we're not allowed assault rifles over here, so you won't be hearing about me on the morning news.
Luckily, we're not allowed assault rifles over here, so you won't be hearing about me on the morning news.
Yes, the "stats" are cherry picked and collated into a fake and innacurate league table purely for the purpose of the daily mail (and possibly telegraph) to play into the "this country shit and everything is wrong" narrative that their readership goes for.
You're 5x more likely to be murdered in the USA than the UK.
To put this retarded crap into perspective:
In 2011, in England and Wales, part of the UK with a population of approx 50 million people, there were fewer than 650 homicides.
Source
In New York City, just a single city in the USA. With a population of 8 million people, there were 515 homicide victims.
Source
ITT: a whole bunch of Britfags that don't understand the difference between gun deaths and violent crimes.
Here's a hint, not all violent crimes result in gun deaths. If I bash your skull in with a baseball bat it is a violent crime but it is not a gun death. UK is #1 in overall violent crime rate and the US has more gun deaths. Why is that so hard for some of you butthurt fuckers to understand?
And for fucks sake, the stats are NOT FROM THE DAILY MAIL, they are from The Telegraph, which they received directly from the government. The source is linked in the thread, I know you fuckers got an accent, but you should at least be able to read English.
We may have more gun deaths here in the US, but overall the UK is a far more violent place, just accept it and move on. Acting like some whiny little bitches that refuse to accept stats from your own government just makes you look silly.
Here's a hint, not all violent crimes result in gun deaths. If I bash your skull in with a baseball bat it is a violent crime but it is not a gun death. UK is #1 in overall violent crime rate and the US has more gun deaths. Why is that so hard for some of you butthurt fuckers to understand?
And for fucks sake, the stats are NOT FROM THE DAILY MAIL, they are from The Telegraph, which they received directly from the government. The source is linked in the thread, I know you fuckers got an accent, but you should at least be able to read English.
We may have more gun deaths here in the US, but overall the UK is a far more violent place, just accept it and move on. Acting like some whiny little bitches that refuse to accept stats from your own government just makes you look silly.
I think the general point of what others are saying is that you should not make the assumption that if one country has a higher 'violent crime rate' than another then it is more dangerous. Your 'hint' is attempting to say that we murder through other methods instead. While this is true our intentional homicide per capita is four times lower. I'm happier living in a country with more fist fights but far fewer murders.
You missed/ misunderstood a few things in the report. First of all, it was not sent by the government, it was sent by the then opposition (who obviously would NEVER try and slander the current opposition 10 months before the next election and at the starting point of the downfall of popularity of Gordon Brown). Secondly, the telegraph in my opinion is NOT a good newspaper. If you want half-decent news look towards the Guardian, the Times and the Independent (None are perfect but they are streets ahead of most of the others).
Also you missed a major point that others have been bringing up. This is cited in the Telegraph article itself:
Apples and Oranges.
And also interestingly apparently over half of the incidents were alcohol related (mainly mini-fights I imagine).
I don't think the United Kingdom is the safest place in the world but I can tell you that the statistics you have been throwing around are wildly inaccurate. To be fair you don't have the local knowledge of how politics/ newspapers work here.
I haven't thrown around any statistics, I've only posted statistics as reported in your press. If you're saying The Telegraph made the stats up you could provide some evidence or at least some stats that contradict what they published. Otherwise, I have no reason to believe they published inaccurate information because I haven't seen anyone in here refute the numbers they cited.
As far as where it is safer to live, country by country comparisons are never going to give the whole picture. My point was simply to show that the US is not the violent place everyone outside of the US seems to think it is. And oddly enough, most of our gun violence is in the most heavily restricted areas for guns. There may or may not be a correlation, but that's for others to decide.
I never said the Telegraph made up statistics. I said the Telegraph got their statistics from the opposition government at a crucial time politically. I think that the statistics are misleading (lack of definitions of what covers a 'violent' crime in the countries is pretty damn misleading).
I don't think the US is that violent. I've lived in far more violent places in Europe where the violence was absolutely everywhere. In the United Kingdom and the USA it would of course be certain areas that ruin it for the others.