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If so, travel safely, and let us know when you're back on the ground, and not so high anymore.
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Are you on an airplane?
If so, travel safely, and let us know when you're back on the ground, and not so high anymore.
I always get you confused with dreamache for some reason.
I personally dig the banner ads, now I can spy on businesses that spy on other businesses and what have you.
I've never had a problem being served ads I guess I only have an ad buying problem, so I welcome new services that I might find useful in my day to day problems of being a marketer.
I know, Cool story bro
I think the comparison is certainly off, but you're intelligent enough to see what he was getting at.
Anyone with an ahrefs account and twenty minutes could have reverse-engineered the link source that the thread in question was "outing" - but the threads were changed (and now they seem to be permanently deleted) due to the complaints of those who were charging an enormous markup for said links to those who purchase from the BST. That's how it seemed to myself and a few others discussing it as the drama unfolded, anyway. I'm not part of the "big" Skype chats where most of this tends to be discussed.
If that's the case, it's very protectionist and certainly isn't what WF used to be about - hence the two-way attack fest that the now-deleted thread disintegrated into. The "what happened to the old WF" crew vs. the "cartel of $300-to-$500-a-shot spam salesmen".
If it was just an issue about Google "devaluing" something they likely know all about, the thread could have just been moved by a moderator to a non-indexed section of the forum. The total deletion says more about the moderator(s) than it does about the OP.
In the end though, who cares? IMO the OP should have taken his information and either ranked his own sites with it or fleeced some folks in the BST by selling it as much as he could before it got found out, much like SAPE links and virtually every other source of links before it.
or maybe it had to do with the dumb ass treating shooting the shit as an extended bst.....
No one complaining is selling on the BST. It was people using the actual technique outside of BST. Most of them I imagine are not fans of those BST services either. Apart from that there were ulterior motives to the thread and not 'helping out the community'.
Google doesn't need the thread to be indexed to read it. You think they do searches for links to go after instead of just logging into the actual well known forums?
You have obviously never used either WRW or Ahrefs.
20 minutes to reverse engineer it? lol.
It had taken this long since I saw it on SGW for it to be outted... yet it only takes 20 minutes to reverse engineer.
Why is it the people who don't do spam/can't do spam the ones making the biggest fuss about it?
Also, the reason why OP got his thread deleted was because he was only outing to harm other people and to make his own services look better.
First things first, most the people angry about it weren't BST sellers.
Secondly, that thread is akin to Coca Cola giving out the recipe for their drinks. Sure you could reverse engineer it with enough lab equipment / time, but Coca Cola would be stupid to publically share a guide to make it on a public forum that Pepsi frequents, and would be pissed off if someone else posted a guide (although it's different I know - so far as they likely have IP protection). Coca Cola own lots of other drinks, so it's not their sole revenue stream, but you'd still be pretty pissed to see it go up in public. Different barriers to entry too, but similar kinda story.
Also, it's one thing to post a guide explaining link types, it's another to post a step-by-step guide on how to post to them. I think many people came to the conclusion he can post what he likes, but what got him banned and the threads deleted was what transpired afterwards, which I don't think it's my place to talk about.
Although simply put, his intentions in making that thread were not "helping the community".
The convo on this has been done to death though, and most people that aren't involved in that sort of blackhat seo don't really get it. It's not an argument worth having. It always comes back to "well your business is stupid" or "you'll go broke one day" which shows a chronic mis-understanding of a) what most successful blackhats do, and b) makes tons of assumptions into what people pissed are doing for business with minimal insight into their lives.
Just because a technique being outted might in the long run cost me money, and that pisses me off, doesn't mean that it's my sole revenue stream, or that "one google update could kill me". People seem to love jumping to that conclusion though, and going all strawman on the whole thing.
Why should people doing things with a small barrier to entry get special treatment?
I didn't mean spying on the company itself but any marketer should always keep memory of great ads they come across. Wished they kept, "Finally a link without spinning meats". LOL'd that shit was gold... Yup, maybe I'm a copynerd a little bit.
