I want to try fixing and flipping a piece of real estate.

I think I may just invest in rental properties instead. It will take 10-20 years to pay off, but the risk is a lot smaller. And it's easy to find cash flow positive properties.

I pass on packages (10-200 homes ea) of existing rentals, fully managed (take it or leave it), true Cap Rates 10%-18% (incl vacancy, maintenance, etc), in several cities with no one to sell them to, so when you stop searching and are ready to do something the opportunity to dive in is there. No Experience Necessary.
 


I pass on packages (10-200 homes ea) of existing rentals, fully managed (take it or leave it), true Cap Rates 10%-18% (incl vacancy, maintenance, etc), in several cities with no one to sell them to, so when you stop searching and are ready to do something the opportunity to dive in is there. No Experience Necessary.
Any in Colorado?
 
I've been in the rental game for quite awhile, and it's not as lucrative as most people think, at least not initially.

Tenants are a real pain in the ass, and they never treat your property with as much respect as you think they should. Evict someone and get ready to walk into an apartment with hammer holes in every wall...I've always taken care of the properties myself, hire a company to do it, and your profits are even less...

The fact that you gave up after a week of looking for a good deal, leads me to believe you're probably not right for the Real Estate world, I'd look somewhere else if I were you.
 
Talk to the people who lost all their dough in Arizona or Las Vegas if you want to be talked out of it.
 
I have some investor buddies in Arizona. I used to be a real estate appraiser (don't ask :D) so I would see rookie investors lose their shirts and end up in the red after the sale because they either spent too much on the rehab or they didn't do their homework and got stuck with a property they couldn't move so they eventually end up selling it at a loss.

One thing you might want to consider in Arizona is manufactured housing, the demand should be good because #1 it's the South and #2 higher rural population than in a lot of other states. I have a buddy in Dallas that kills it refurbing manufactured homes because manufactured housing depreciates faster than site built (regular) houses. That means that if they are in bad shape you can pick them up really cheap.

Manufactured houses are easy to refurb because all of the materials are pretty standard across the manufacturers. For the price of one foreclosed site built house you may be able to purchase two or even three manufactured homes. Get a deal on the materials/labor because you are doing volume. You can get leads from rural title companies, take them donuts and promise them you'll use them on both transactions.

The best part is that the manufactured housing market is largely ignored by investors, there is a social stigma attached. My buddy used to get snubbed by other investors for dealing in "trailers" but as an appraiser I could see where he was laughing all the way to the bank. He typically made 30 or 40% more money on each house than the other investors who dealt strictly in single family site built houses.

I should clarify that I'm not talking about mobile homes. Actual "trailers" or homes that are still technically movable aren't real estate and are usually a bad investment. You'll want to look only at manufactured housing that has been converted to real estate by being attached to a permanent foundation where the lot is included in the sale.

That's my 2 cents, good luck
 
I have some investor buddies in Arizona. I used to be a real estate appraiser (don't ask :D) so I would see rookie investors lose their shirts and end up in the red after the sale because they either spent too much on the rehab or they didn't do their homework and got stuck with a property they couldn't move so they eventually end up selling it at a loss.

One thing you might want to consider in Arizona is manufactured housing, the demand should be good because #1 it's the South and #2 higher rural population than in a lot of other states. I have a buddy in Dallas that kills it refurbing manufactured homes because manufactured housing depreciates faster than site built (regular) houses. That means that if they are in bad shape you can pick them up really cheap.

Manufactured houses are easy to refurb because all of the materials are pretty standard across the manufacturers. For the price of one foreclosed site built house you may be able to purchase two or even three manufactured homes. Get a deal on the materials/labor because you are doing volume. You can get leads from rural title companies, take them donuts and promise them you'll use them on both transactions.

The best part is that the manufactured housing market is largely ignored by investors, there is a social stigma attached. My buddy used to get snubbed by other investors for dealing in "trailers" but as an appraiser I could see where he was laughing all the way to the bank. He typically made 30 or 40% more money on each house than the other investors who dealt strictly in single family site built houses.

I should clarify that I'm not talking about mobile homes. Actual "trailers" or homes that are still technically movable aren't real estate and are usually a bad investment. You'll want to look only at manufactured housing that has been converted to real estate by being attached to a permanent foundation where the lot is included in the sale.

That's my 2 cents, good luck

Just need to be careful. FHA will not loan anymore on doublewides even if they're attached to the foundation.

You can make money off of them, but IMO the best way to do it is to buy and have the tenant sign a land-contract at 10%+ interest. Then take that note and sell it to a contract investor.
 
Just need to be careful. FHA will not loan anymore on doublewides even if they're attached to the foundation.

You can make money off of them, but IMO the best way to do it is to buy and have the tenant sign a land-contract at 10%+ interest. Then take that note and sell it to a contract investor.

You don't want them to get a loan anyway on a trailer. You want to be the owner, banker and refurber.
 
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You don't want them to get a loan anyway on a trailer. You want to be the owner, banker and refurber.

True dat but if FHA really flaked on manufactured housing loans then that cuts the buyer pool waaay down when you are ready to sell. I don't think that is the case though, checked on Google. Going to have to give my buddy a ring to ask him.