And they say chivalry is dead - More Tazering...

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I wouldn't put women into that group - They have a much higher pain tolerance than we do. As evidenced by the way that woman behaved even after being tased once. Also if you are a major wuss to pain - you should take that into consideration before acting an ass in public.

C'mon dude, not all of us are into S/M. If you like being tased it's OK, but that cop is a lazy fat piece of shit.
 


The problem with tasers is that you don't know whether the victim will survive an electrical shock of that many Joules. It only requires a tap on the button to send a shock that can interrupt a heartbeat, but cops almost ALWAYS shoot tasers for ten seconds at a time and do this multiple times. Take this example, where cops shocked a 54-year old twice, once for five seconds and then again for a whopping 57 SECONDS.

What they're doing is basically operating a defibrillator without any knowledge of their patients' health.

I found a handy summary of the energy involved. Keep in mind that I haven't taken chemistry or physics in nine years:

1. Watts are the expression of electrical power in a device. watts = voltage x amps (w = v * a)

2. a) Electrical output of defibrillators is expressed in terms of energy
b) Joules (J) or watt-seconds (Ws) describe the power (watts) and the length of time it is applied (sec)
c) Thus Energy (Joules) = power (watts) x duration (seconds)

According to a study of defibrillators that talked about improvements of the devices in the early 1960s when they became efficient at saving lives:

A further result of ECG mapping in dogs was the discovery that a shock on the downstroke of the R wave could terminate atrial arrythmias. This 'triggered' the use of defibrillation routinely (7) in patients to restore normal rhythm in atrial flutter, atrial fibrillation and atrial tachycardia. 'Triggered' means that when the operator switches on the defibrillator paddle it is not discharged until the next R wave of the patient's ECG occurs. Electric shock depolarizes the heart's conducting system to cause cardiac arrest; subsequent recovery should then restore normal conduction in the heart. Using triggered impulses, 20–40 Joules may suffice for flutter, 150–300 Joules for atrial fibrillation. For ventricular arrhythmias, non-triggered shocks of 200–400 Joules are used.

A typical taser emits something like 0.00015-0.0021 amps at 50,000 volts. Let's take the low end of that and see what we get.

0.0015a * 50,000v = 75 watts

What a light bulb gets. Sounds harmless, right? Wrong. That's the power emitted per second. Defibrillators, while emitting a higher wattage, only do so for a fraction of a second. As in 0.0025 seconds. That's impossible wth a taser gun. The cop is going to hold the trigger down long enough to let the probes hit his target, and it will take at least two seconds to make sure it has hit and has shocked the target from the time the cop pulled the trigger until the time the cop releases it.

power (watts) x duration (seconds) = Energy (Joules)
75 watts * 2 seconds = 150 Joules
75 watts * 5 seconds = 375 Joules
75 watts * 57 seconds = 4275 Joules

The hospital can use defibrillators at a setting as low as 20 Joules to interrupt heart rhythm. Now, I understand that the shock is spread out over however many heartbeats occur in the given shock period, but the fact remains that that a LOT of energy introduced into a human being that shouldn't be there. Many people have irregular heart rhythms and/or underlying ailments that can kill them if they are shocked. That's why my dad carries around an ECG reading of his heart rhythm when he goes to the hospital -- he's run marathons for so long that he has a runner's heartbeat, and it's vital that doctors know this whenever he receives any kind of treatment; overlooking an irregular ECG can kill someone.

So yes, I'd rather have a cop wrestle me to the pavement (not that I would ever be stupid enough to fight a cop). We just don't know the full implications of shocking a person several times in under a minute at high voltage.


Americans keep trading their freedoms in the name of security. That doesn't seem so smart.

Agreed. The sane ones can repeat the Ben Franklin quote (summary: those whose sacrifice liberty in exchange for security deserve neither) until they're blue in the face, but sheeple don't listen to reason. They don't care about being in pens or eating moldy grass; it's all about the wolves. Of course, sheeple don't realize that a good shepherd knows how to kill wolves AND let them graze the fields.
 
You are smart. Pics of u? :girl:

The problem with tasers is that you don't know whether the victim will survive an electrical shock of that many Joules. It only requires a tap on the button to send a shock that can interrupt a heartbeat, but cops almost ALWAYS shoot tasers for ten seconds at a time and do this multiple times. Take this example, where cops shocked a 54-year old twice, once for five seconds and then again for a whopping 57 SECONDS.

What they're doing is basically operating a defibrillator without any knowledge of their patients' health.

I found a handy summary of the energy involved. Keep in mind that I haven't taken chemistry or physics in nine years:

1. Watts are the expression of electrical power in a device. watts = voltage x amps (w = v * a)

2. a) Electrical output of defibrillators is expressed in terms of energy
b) Joules (J) or watt-seconds (Ws) describe the power (watts) and the length of time it is applied (sec)
c) Thus Energy (Joules) = power (watts) x duration (seconds)

According to a study of defibrillators that talked about improvements of the devices in the early 1960s when they became efficient at saving lives:



A typical taser emits something like 0.00015-0.0021 amps at 50,000 volts. Let's take the low end of that and see what we get.

0.0015a * 50,000v = 75 watts

What a light bulb gets. Sounds harmless, right? Wrong. That's the power emitted per second. Defibrillators, while emitting a higher wattage, only do so for a fraction of a second. As in 0.0025 seconds. That's impossible wth a taser gun. The cop is going to hold the trigger down long enough to let the probes hit his target, and it will take at least two seconds to make sure it has hit and has shocked the target from the time the cop pulled the trigger until the time the cop releases it.

power (watts) x duration (seconds) = Energy (Joules)
75 watts * 2 seconds = 150 Joules
75 watts * 5 seconds = 375 Joules
75 watts * 57 seconds = 4275 Joules

The hospital can use defibrillators at a setting as low as 20 Joules to interrupt heart rhythm. Now, I understand that the shock is spread out over however many heartbeats occur in the given shock period, but the fact remains that that a LOT of energy introduced into a human being that shouldn't be there. Many people have irregular heart rhythms and/or underlying ailments that can kill them if they are shocked. That's why my dad carries around an ECG reading of his heart rhythm when he goes to the hospital -- he's run marathons for so long that he has a runner's heartbeat, and it's vital that doctors know this whenever he receives any kind of treatment; overlooking an irregular ECG can kill someone.

So yes, I'd rather have a cop wrestle me to the pavement (not that I would ever be stupid enough to fight a cop). We just don't know the full implications of shocking a person several times in under a minute at high voltage.




Agreed. The sane ones can repeat the Ben Franklin quote (summary: those whose sacrifice liberty in exchange for security deserve neither) until they're blue in the face, but sheeple don't listen to reason. They don't care about being in pens or eating moldy grass; it's all about the wolves. Of course, sheeple don't realize that a good shepherd knows how to kill wolves AND let them graze the fields.
 
With most of these taser videos I can at least see why the cop would think it was appropriate to tase the victim.

This cop is just a fat piece of shit. He follows her around while she wiggles on the ground for like 30 seconds.

Shes a woman too, even a fat cop should be able to take a woman to the ground and put her arms behind her back and hand-cuff her. What a pussy.
 
Wow SleepyStarling - That was a very well and thought out post. Very good arguments on why a taser shouldn't be used. Definately has me thinking. You are right more research must be done.
 
The problem with tasers is that you don't know whether the victim will survive an electrical shock of that many Joules. It only requires a tap on the button to send a shock that can interrupt a heartbeat, but cops almost ALWAYS shoot tasers for ten seconds at a time and do this multiple times. Take this example, where cops shocked a 54-year old twice, once for five seconds and then again for a whopping 57 SECONDS.

What they're doing is basically operating a defibrillator without any knowledge of their patients' health.

I found a handy summary of the energy involved. Keep in mind that I haven't taken chemistry or physics in nine years:

1. Watts are the expression of electrical power in a device. watts = voltage x amps (w = v * a)

2. a) Electrical output of defibrillators is expressed in terms of energy
b) Joules (J) or watt-seconds (Ws) describe the power (watts) and the length of time it is applied (sec)
c) Thus Energy (Joules) = power (watts) x duration (seconds)

According to a study of defibrillators that talked about improvements of the devices in the early 1960s when they became efficient at saving lives:



A typical taser emits something like 0.00015-0.0021 amps at 50,000 volts. Let's take the low end of that and see what we get.

0.0015a * 50,000v = 75 watts

What a light bulb gets. Sounds harmless, right? Wrong. That's the power emitted per second. Defibrillators, while emitting a higher wattage, only do so for a fraction of a second. As in 0.0025 seconds. That's impossible wth a taser gun. The cop is going to hold the trigger down long enough to let the probes hit his target, and it will take at least two seconds to make sure it has hit and has shocked the target from the time the cop pulled the trigger until the time the cop releases it.

power (watts) x duration (seconds) = Energy (Joules)
75 watts * 2 seconds = 150 Joules
75 watts * 5 seconds = 375 Joules
75 watts * 57 seconds = 4275 Joules

The hospital can use defibrillators at a setting as low as 20 Joules to interrupt heart rhythm. Now, I understand that the shock is spread out over however many heartbeats occur in the given shock period, but the fact remains that that a LOT of energy introduced into a human being that shouldn't be there. Many people have irregular heart rhythms and/or underlying ailments that can kill them if they are shocked. That's why my dad carries around an ECG reading of his heart rhythm when he goes to the hospital -- he's run marathons for so long that he has a runner's heartbeat, and it's vital that doctors know this whenever he receives any kind of treatment; overlooking an irregular ECG can kill someone.

So yes, I'd rather have a cop wrestle me to the pavement (not that I would ever be stupid enough to fight a cop). We just don't know the full implications of shocking a person several times in under a minute at high voltage.




Agreed. The sane ones can repeat the Ben Franklin quote (summary: those whose sacrifice liberty in exchange for security deserve neither) until they're blue in the face, but sheeple don't listen to reason. They don't care about being in pens or eating moldy grass; it's all about the wolves. Of course, sheeple don't realize that a good shepherd knows how to kill wolves AND let them graze the fields.


excellent post! Thank you for this research
 
Rare condition may have killed man jolted by Taser: RCMP

meh ....they say the guy had preexisting medical conditions...but yahh...would he have died if they didnt taser his ass?

Cops didnt wanna pepper spray or beat his ass cause of the rest of the people in the airport. I guess they should stick to bitch slapping the sense into punks...

"Of the sixteen stun gun-related deaths in Canada in the past four years, six have occurred in British Columbia."
 
At first, watching this video is rather shocking.

Then a few days later you want to go up to an officer and say,
"don't taze me bro!"
 
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