I need consistent, English-born Writers for a million dollar project

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BlogHue said:
OP,

I am not sure if you're trolling or serious. But let's give you the benefit of doubt here for a second. Let's consider that your idea is indeed the next huffpost. Let's consider it is indeed a potential big term asset. Let's consider that every single 'senior' member here is wrong in their perceptions about what you're actually willing to do. Let's even consider that you WILL make it. Let's consider that you're indeed above where everyone else perceives you to be at, right now. Let's even consider that you manage to find people who share the same vision as you and wouldn't mind investing their time in return for long term gains.

However, there are multiple flaws in your entire profiling (both as an individual and a potential business) -

1. Your idea lacks any innovation of any sort. You're simply starting a site that has hundreds of posts lacking any other material whatsoever. How is it any different from the thousands of wordpress blogs that change hands almost on a daily basis? The no. of posts IS NOT an attribute here.

2. Judging from your OP, I am perceiving that you're lacking a proper business plan here. How have you valued it at a "million dollar"? A proper business plan on the table wouldn't have required you coming here looking for "free" writers. The only thing that is accurate here is the fact that you have an aged site listed in Google news for which you've decided to hire a bunch of writers and start posting 100 updates to it everyday. Keep doing this for 1 year and then flip.

3. You're alone in this? I presume this because you speak a lot with the "me" tone. A person who hails from an entity rarely uses the "me" tone specifically when involved in an aggressive rebuttal.

4. Now since we "considered" a shit ton of probabilities above, let's come down to another important aspect. What if you fail? What is your exit strategy? How do you plan on paying your writers then? Every business has a fail potential. Even the ones started by major players. Heck! If I sat down and wrote about my "next big idea" that failed even after a lot of investment of cash and time - I could probably start the "next big business blog". So let's "consider" you fail. No traffic! Lowballing buyers! Time/Family constraints! Google bitchslap! Sudden emergencies! Server crashes? What happens then? Do you have a contingency plan in place? Is it thorough enough to be added as a clause in your contract?

5. You don't seem to have the legal aspects of this business worked out either! Websites get sued all the time. Managing 100 articles a day is not a single person job. Your interns (if you manage to find them) WILL speak their mind. Defamations. Allegations. Plagiarism. The list is endless. What happens then?

5a. Continuing from Point 4. What about non-payments? Plagiarism allegations? How big of an editorial staff do you have to handle those? And contracts? How detailed of a contract have you created and are willing to sign with your writers? Have you estimated your liabilities with this contract? What about Digital copyrights? Do you become the owner of these rights as soon as they're up on your website? Back to square one. What if you're low-balled and don't pay? What if your buyer gets sued by a writer who in turn sues you?

6. What about technicalities and investments other than the content? A site that makes 100 new posts everyday WILL not function on your average server. An extensive webspace infrastructure investment will have to be made. The core wordpress will have to be modified heavily in order for it work efficiently. Cloud integration. Performance optimizations. Daily backups. Code hardening. Load balancing. The list is practically endless. Have you estimated the amount of capital this requires? Do you have the required capital?

You will require a pro-active team that works continuously with the simple goal of keeping that site up and running. This team will actually have to be experienced. What about it?


These are just a few of what I could think of.

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OP, disrespecting people of a community, that you're yourself a part of, is never a good idea. You don't know any of these people or their work profiles and achievements. You've never worked with either of them too. So you've no right to call them many of things you've been saying.

These are people who've surpassed what you're targeting years ago. Most of them innovated with a thorough business attitude, others taught themselves a skill, nourished that skill and leased it out for a price. There are people here innovating every single day of their life. They maybe ballers. But they WORK HARD. They set realistic goals and work hard towards achieving them.

Seniority, on these forums, is most definitely not about the post count or the number of days the person has been a member here. WF perceives seniority with the amount of respect the person accrues as a marketer. An individual. An entrepreneur.

You have to be more accepting towards your critics mate. No one here hates you or has a personal grudge against you. But your rebuttal and cockiness definitely can hurt you and your credibility around here and even on the entire internet.

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All said and done, OP, I sincerely hope we're all wrong here and you're indeed successful.

Good luck.
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Thanks for the luck and definitely going to actually save your post to share with the associates.

Not the only person involved.

Working on some innovative web 2.0 platform ideas actually. One of the people involved is a dedicated programmer.

Writers will be paid actually. I never said they would not (as in never) be paid.

Exit and maintenance plans are in check.

Legally covered fine ( i hope ).... never say never

6 - This is the most challenging part, I agree. However, I have resources and connections to handle such vertical growth. And if not, again I'm not being greedy here. At that point, it will not be a problem to find help.

I have a really unique strategy here and not looking to be the king of the web, instead just solidify my future and leave my name as the founder of another great internet concept within the niche I know best.


to another's reply:
I agree there could be bigger money in other niches / categories... However, i rarely find pleasure going outside my niche.

Usually retail is the only thing i like otherwise.
 
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guerilla said:
Are we seriously doxxing people in this thread now?
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I don't normally take part of the lynch mob, but I've seen people get raped for a lot less on WF.

Hopefully the OP isn't as ignorant and stupid as he makes himself out to be by the way he has handled himself so far. But by his ability to communicate so far, it seems improbable.
 
I'm not huge on bringing his real life personality into this and the outing of his site. But since it's been done, a couple of things for the OP to think about.

If you don't already, I would strongly advise you to get some form of subscription or something to Getty or the AP for those photos. Maybe you already have one, I don't know.

If by chance your site does blow up, they're going to come after you for copyright infringement if you haven't paid them for those photos. Many of the photos as used do not fall under fair use and any hope you had of using that defense if you are sued has been ruined by this thread. This is now clearly a commercial venture. If that happens, even if you sell the site for a million, you're going to be sued for at least that if you don't have your photo rights taken care of. You're going to be using a ton of photos and at as much as 10k per infraction, that would suck.

Even though I'm not on board with your plan or your business model, I don't want to see someone's life ruined due to something so easily avoidable.

Good luck.
 
statelizard said:
I'm not huge on bringing his real life personality into this and the outing of his site. But since it's been done, a couple of things for the OP to think about.

If you don't already, I would strongly advise you to get some form of subscription or something to Getty or the AP for those photos. Maybe you already have one, I don't know.

If by chance your site does blow up, they're going to come after you for copyright infringement if you haven't paid them for those photos. Many of the photos as used do not fall under fair use and any hope you had of using that defense if you are sued has been ruined by this thread. This is now clearly a commercial venture. If that happens, even if you sell the site for a million, you're going to be sued for at least that if you don't have your photo rights taken care of. You're going to be using a ton of photos and at as much as 10k per infraction, that would suck.

Even though I'm not on board with your plan or your business model, I don't want to see someone's life ruined due to something so easily avoidable.

Good luck.
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Thanks. Yeah, I'm long familiar with Getty and all.... i've had an account since around 2006 or 2007.

I actually also have access to alot of events as press so I own rights to many things. Actually 1000s of not tens of thousands of pictures/video of media.

Really do appreciate that effort though. I appreciate anyone who's trying to see me advance, not fall into a hole.

It's all love for that!
 
BlogHue said:
OP,

I am not sure if you're trolling or serious. But let's give you the benefit of doubt here for a second. Let's consider that your idea is indeed the next huffpost. Let's consider it is indeed a potential big term asset. Let's consider that every single 'senior' member here is wrong in their perceptions about what you're actually willing to do. Let's even consider that you WILL make it. Let's consider that you're indeed above where everyone else perceives you to be at, right now. Let's even consider that you manage to find people who share the same vision as you and wouldn't mind investing their time in return for long term gains.

However, there are multiple flaws in your entire profiling (both as an individual and a potential business) -

1. Your idea lacks any innovation of any sort. You're simply starting a site that has hundreds of posts lacking any other material whatsoever. How is it any different from the thousands of wordpress blogs that change hands almost on a daily basis? The no. of posts IS NOT an attribute here.

2. Judging from your OP, I am perceiving that you're lacking a proper business plan here. How have you valued it at a "million dollar"? A proper business plan on the table wouldn't have required you coming here looking for "free" writers. The only thing that is accurate here is the fact that you have an aged site listed in Google news for which you've decided to hire a bunch of writers and start posting 100 updates to it everyday. Keep doing this for 1 year and then flip.

3. You're alone in this? I presume this because you speak a lot with the "me" tone. A person who hails from an entity rarely uses the "me" tone specifically when involved in an aggressive rebuttal.

4. Now since we "considered" a shit ton of probabilities above, let's come down to another important aspect. What if you fail? What is your exit strategy? How do you plan on paying your writers then? Every business has a fail potential. Even the ones started by major players. Heck! If I sat down and wrote about my "next big idea" that failed even after a lot of investment of cash and time - I could probably start the "next big business blog". So let's "consider" you fail. No traffic! Lowballing buyers! Time/Family constraints! Google bitchslap! Sudden emergencies! Server crashes? What happens then? Do you have a contingency plan in place? Is it thorough enough to be added as a clause in your contract?

5. You don't seem to have the legal aspects of this business worked out either! Websites get sued all the time. Managing 100 articles a day is not a single person job. Your interns (if you manage to find them) WILL speak their mind. Defamations. Allegations. Plagiarism. The list is endless. What happens then?

5a. Continuing from Point 4. What about non-payments? Plagiarism allegations? How big of an editorial staff do you have to handle those? And contracts? How detailed of a contract have you created and are willing to sign with your writers? Have you estimated your liabilities with this contract? What about Digital copyrights? Do you become the owner of these rights as soon as they're up on your website? Back to square one. What if you're low-balled and don't pay? What if your buyer gets sued by a writer who in turn sues you?

6. What about technicalities and investments other than the content? A site that makes 100 new posts everyday WILL not function on your average server. An extensive webspace infrastructure investment will have to be made. The core wordpress will have to be modified heavily in order for it work efficiently. Cloud integration. Performance optimizations. Daily backups. Code hardening. Load balancing. The list is practically endless. Have you estimated the amount of capital this requires? Do you have the required capital?

You will require a pro-active team that works continuously with the simple goal of keeping that site up and running. This team will actually have to be experienced. What about it?


These are just a few of what I could think of.

//

OP, disrespecting people of a community, that you're yourself a part of, is never a good idea. You don't know any of these people or their work profiles and achievements. You've never worked with either of them too. So you've no right to call them many of things you've been saying.

These are people who've surpassed what you're targeting years ago. Most of them innovated with a thorough business attitude, others taught themselves a skill, nourished that skill and leased it out for a price. There are people here innovating every single day of their life. They maybe ballers. But they WORK HARD. They set realistic goals and work hard towards achieving them.

Seniority, on these forums, is most definitely not about the post count or the number of days the person has been a member here. WF perceives seniority with the amount of respect the person accrues as a marketer. An individual. An entrepreneur.

You have to be more accepting towards your critics mate. No one here hates you or has a personal grudge against you. But your rebuttal and cockiness definitely can hurt you and your credibility around here and even on the entire internet.

//

All said and done, OP, I sincerely hope we're all wrong here and you're indeed successful.

Good luck.
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this is a great example of what sets wickedfire apart.

* ORDINARY FORUMS: if you ask a question, you have a 100% chance of getting sincere yet clueless answers.

* WICKEDFIRE:
- if you post a request for help, you have a 100% probability of getting smacked around, a 90% probablity of getting banned, and a 0% chance of getting help.

- if you post trollbait, you have a 100% probability of getting smacked around, a 90% probablity of getting banned, and a 10% chance of getting incidental pro-tips from experts in the process of proving how stupid you are.
 
Peasant spotted and has been rushed to my 'avoid' list.

I'm not so sure about others OP, but I'd rather not write at all than have to do free writing, in the hopes of your 'jingle-bell-will-make-you-money' kind of promise to come to fruition a year down the line.

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my $0.02 for you.
 
I like your never say die attitude

Also I think your concept for that site can work and work very well.

Coming from an urban area I know the culture well. I also think you have a much higher chance of finding urban writers than you would with the non urban crowd. Ive seen really bright people in those situations work pro bono for a dream. Theyre just dying for leadership.

I think your monetization models on the site are extremely weak. Youre not goimg to make any money there.

You should do your brand a favor and take all the ads off and really focus on making the content shine.

You'll never break the bank from some of those shitty looking ads, but if readers love your content and dont feel assaulted by ads maybe they'll keep coming back.

Who knows maybe you build up a large enough following to leverage that user base as an asset. Maybe a million dollar asset.

For all the shit ive given you, your persistence has at least earned my respect.
 
tavin said:
I like your never say die attitude

Also I think your concept for that site can work and work very well.

Coming from an urban area I know the culture well. I also think you have a much higher chance of finding urban writers than you would with the non urban crowd. Ive seen really bright people in those situations work pro bono for a dream. Theyre just dying for leadership.

I think your monetization models on the site are extremely weak. Youre not goimg to make any money there.

You should do your brand a favor and take all the ads off and really focus on making the content shine.

You'll never break the bank from some of those shitty looking ads, but if readers love your content and dont feel assaulted by ads maybe they'll keep coming back.

Who knows maybe you build up a large enough following to leverage that user base as an asset. Maybe a million dollar asset.

For all the shit ive given you, your persistence has at least earned my respect.
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Thanks.

Yeah I was saying that earlier, our monetization strategy needs better format BUT it's also not my first priority.

As you actually suggested, the first is good content and bringing users back. Had a private AM'er launching his ads/offers on site the last month and that term ended today. We over-served him by about 50k-60k impressions b/c of rapid growth.

The niche I'm in, honestly you probably find more money from 'unique' sources than typical ads anyway. I used to help Atlantic & Interscope get their artists seen on-line back around 2005-07.

I see the 'video curve' coming and I'm prepared for it.

The leader in my niche generates over $1 million per month and I'm on the hunt to not outdo him but create something more mainstream friendly, less ignorance fueled.

Hip Hop/Urban is the mainstream today....Madonna has gold grill.. Miley Cyrus is twerking.... Even wickedfire people are talking about "Drake is like..."

If I continue on the path of growth I'm on, I'll outdo him within a year. Funny thing b/c I interviewed him on my site 3 years ago and was buying some expensive promotion from him.. said screw it.. i'm not paying you anymore I rather own my own outlet b/c he screwed up my headline..... motivated me to improve my site, which was older anyway......... make everybody pay me then use that revenue earned to promote my own media ventures.... create multiple revenue streams through one powerful website & help other people live their Dream.

The industry i'm in knows me well.. been around it since 16 I think.

People offer me jobs and while they MAY HAVE paid more short term, I always saw myself as being a 'no ceilings needed' kind of guy..
 
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BlogHue said:
5. You don't seem to have the legal aspects of this business worked out either! Websites get sued all the time. Managing 100 articles a day is not a single person job. Your interns (if you manage to find them) WILL speak their mind. Defamations. Allegations. Plagiarism. The list is endless. What happens then?
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QFT ^^^

One phrase the OP should become familiar with on his next Big Brand quest:

"Libel Per Se"

Learn about it, and how to avoid being liable for doing it, and you'll greatly increase your chances of success from a legal perspective...
 
Esquire said:
QFT ^^^

One phrase the OP should become familiar with on his next Big Brand quest:

"Libel Per Se"

Learn about it, and how to avoid being liable for doing it, and you'll greatly increase your chances of success from a legal perspective...
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going to look this up when i return up.
 
Holy shit.

All this time, I thought it was necessary to approach this forum with respect and humility in order to mingle with the wise & successful here. I thought I actually had to contribute something of potential VALUE before I got to act like an arrogant prick.

And to think, I could have just acted like a raging narcissistic dick and received the same (if not better) results right off the bat!
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Here, here, here, here, here, here, here - LET ME TRY:

HEY I HAVE A GREAT IDEA FOR A SELF HELP SITE FOR MEN. I'M FINNA BE BALLIN OUTTA CONTROL, BUT Y'ALL PEASANTS BEST RESPECT MY IDEAZ CUZ THIS SITE 100k MATERIAL YO. I GOT NIGGAS TELLIN ME ITS THE NEXT BIG THING IN SELF HELP, B. I GOT BITCHES SWINGIN FROM MY YOGART CANNON N SHIT TELLIN ME THEY WANT MY BABIES N SHIT, B.

I WANT SHIT & ADVICE FOR FREE, YO. BUT Y'ALL PEASENTS BEST BELIEVE I'M ON SOME NEXT LEVEL SHIT OTHERWISE YOU AIN'T DEEMED WORTHY OF HELPIN MY NEXT LEVEL ASS OUT.

OH, YOU TRYNA FRONT LIKE YOU A SUCCESSFUL BIZNIZZ MAN, NOW?
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Y'ALL CANT GET ON MAH LEVEL. CHECK THE STATS, NEGRO. MY TEAM WINNING.
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PM me?
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avatar33 said:
clearly pewep.

can't believe this thread went to 3 pages.

*sigh*
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This. Though Pewep has adapted to a new and different form it is still clearly a Pewep. This new Pewep has attempted to fool the gullible by different sentece structure, capitalization and random dots, but let it be know, we are definitely dealing with pewep here.
 
rusvik said:
This. Though Pewep has adapted to a new and different form it is still clearly a Pewep. This new Pewep has attempted to fool the gullible by different sentece structure, capitalization and random dots, but let it be know, we are definitely dealing with pewep here.
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This isn't THE pewep, although it is A pewep. This one here believes himself; THE pewep was pure trolling.

With the level of stupidity that is in existence, it is hard to differentiate those are are retarded, from those who act retarded.
 
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