V. Putin in NYTimes - A Plea for Caution From Russia



exceptional or not after the U.S. is done with split-testing its war campaigns elsewhere it will continue to do it domestically. pushing boundaries bit by bit -
already, via mainstream media they already started preparing the public to be ready for Al-quida which is in its core sponsored by the U.S. and this circus to hit homeland
Al Qaeda leader calls for strikes on U.S. soil to
don't worry, big brother will protect all. but at what price?
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kumansk said:
Especially the debt the US is in and couldn't possibly pay off.
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But which countries do you think can actually make the US pay it's debt? And if nobody is in a position to force repayment, what does that debt really mean?

Once you realize that in our fractional reserve monetary system money=debt, you'll realize this shit is all just an elaborate shell game.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
But which countries do you think can actually make the US pay it's debt? And if nobody is in a position to force repayment, what does that debt really mean?

Once you realize that in our fractional reserve monetary system money=debt, you'll realize this shit is all just an elaborate shell game.
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Hubris and nemesis bro. Remember that the Sovjet once had half the world and the only thing that made them go under was runinng out of money to pay for the very army they used to sustain the empire. Same shit with the Romans.

I don't want to sound like a know it all, but history makes a good teacher. An overstreched, underfunded army and a decadent corrupt nobility is why most great empires fell.

The US will of course never just go bankrupt and then sink into obscurity, but it is not unrealistic to invision a fate similar to Russia now and also a number of secessions once that happens (Texas, California, Hawaii for example).
 
rusvik said:
Hubris and nemesis bro. Remember that the Sovjet once had half the world and the only thing that made them go under was runinng out of money to pay for the very army they used to sustain the empire. Same shit with the Romans.

I don't want to sound like a know it all, but history makes a good teacher. An overstreched, underfunded army and a decadent corrupt nobility is why most great empires fell.

The US will of course never just go bankrupt and then sink into obscurity, but it is not unrealistic to invision a fate similar to Russia now and also a number of secessions once that happens (Texas, California, Hawaii for example).
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Apples and oranges. Not only was the Ruble never the reserve currency of the world, it wasn't even traded on financial markets during the the Soviet era. The Soviets had military might, but that's it. The US has more military reach than the Soviets ever dreamed in addition to having a stranglehold on the entire world banking system.

I'm certainly not defending the debt, I'm just pointing out how meaningless it probably is.
 
Irony :)

its funny

where we now have people seeking asylum from the unted states and now have Putin negotiating peaceful means

we have a record number of affluent people renouncing U.S. citizenship..

times are a changin
 
bluecoyote said:
Irony :)

its funny

where we now have people seeking asylum from the unted states and now have Putin negotiating peaceful means

we have a record number of affluent people renouncing U.S. citizenship..

times are a changin
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times are a chagrin
 
If you have to keep reassuring yourself that you're "exceptional", you're really not. It's an illusion - the world laughs *at* you, not with you.
 
Gazprom

. . . Qatar transports its gas through the Strait of Hormuz and is therefore dependent on Iran for its exports (with LNG tankers which then need to pass through the Suez Canal). The Emirate had plans to build a gas pipeline through Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria. But, Bashar al-Assad blocked this project, preferring to sign an agreement with his Iranian ally, but above all, to preserve its long-term energy deals with Russia.

As a result, Europe -- which is largely dependent on the Russian giant Gazprom for its energy needs -- has an interest in seeking a competitor to lower its growing gas bill. We understand that a Sunni power could protect a Qatar-Saudi Arabia-Jordan-Syria pipeline to diversify its sources. Besides, this path would allow Europe to further isolate Iran by preventing it getting supplies from a "Shia pipeline" Iran-Iraq-Syria.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-09/gazprom-s-demise-could-topple-putin.html

For Putin, the greatest concern might be the negative impact on state revenue. In recent years, Gazprom has paid 7 percent to 11 percent of total state revenue, and the oil sector has contributed about 40 percent. Both these shares are likely to fall fast in the next few years. That may force the Kremlin to reconsider its economic policies.
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nickCR said:
US has a massive army sure, and what? Does anyone have any idea what kind of impact this potential war will have on you or the world? How many lives the US will loose. How many other lives will be lost around the world. What is happening now in Syria is nothing compared to what could happen if an all out war broke out. What happens if they need to do a massive draft. Most of you guys states side are probably ideal candidates for soldiers. How awesome would it be when you have to go to war and hold a gun and be in the line of fire? Shit will get real, real fast.

The UN is there to rule, if there is any wrong doing. The UN will call it out and then you can have your day and not as an aggressor but as a welcomed aid. Right now the world is watching closely and there are not many people that like what they see, including the vast majority of US citizens.

The only ones that want war are the ones that have something to gain such as resources or defense contracts.
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TLDR.. but please learn the difference between "loose" and "lose."
 
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