PUA is about to be banned from Canada and the UK

That Julian guy is a scumbag. I`ve got nothing against pickup as a whole, I was heavily involved in it until a couple years ago. And I`m familiar with RSD and know Alexander who is (was) an instructor with them, and in general RSD has created a lot of valuable content. But Julian tried to create this kind of Slim Shady style alter ego, and he actually started to become like that from what I can see. He was too stupid to realize that he had fanboys who would imitate him and his alter ego and cause problems.

I live in Japan, and about a year ago some of his fans came to Japan and were being fucking RETARDS - throwing their arms around girls on the street and not letting go, the girls were pulling away and screaming. I was like "What the fuck are you guys doing? If you want to get with a Japanese girl, just have a chat and smile, and don`t be scary." They told me "Yeah, we were doing that but Julian said we needed to be way more physically aggressive". They had added me to a private facebook group they`d made for the trip, and Julian was member of the group so I had a look. They`d been posting videos of their approaches and Julian had told them to be way more physical, to "just grab the girl and don`t let go". I responded to him telling him he`s WAY off, and in Japan you can get yourself in big trouble doing that. He didn`t respond. I ended up avoiding those guys, and one of them ended up on the front pages of newspapers in Hong Kong and Korea for uploading his pickup videos to the internet. Locals were PISSED not only at him but at white guys for being arrogant douches. I deleted that guy on all channels.

9 or 10 months later this Julian thing blows up, and there he is in the videos doing the same kind of shit I had seen his followers do --- except that his followers freaked the girls out much more than him. What kind of an idiot does he have to be to not understand that impressionable followers who look to him as a celebrity are going to recklessly try to imitate him, yet not have the charisma to "get away with" it? RSD fans are all saying "We know Julian was just joking" but I saw his followers acting like molestors after being advised by him, the guy was not joking.

Well, I guess his charisma only helped him get away with it for so long. In Japan the yakuza are now out to get him (they`re tied to Japan`s ultranationalists, who don`t appreciate their women being humiliated --- well, at least not by non-Japanese men). The police want him too. And every foreigner here wants to whoop his ass for making us all look like douchebags. He`s getting banned from countries around the world, and his company is now sinking fast. Game over, it seems. It could only get worse if someone files charges. You should have listened to me, fucker.

It`s all been a very interesting case study in social media and virality though.
 


I live in Japan

Always wanted to know why on earth would someone want to live in japan permanently, like is it the type of place you can be consistent with mental health as a westerner. why would you ever want to be part of a culture you can't act like a retard in? unless you're into conformity and being a 2nd class citizen

He`s getting banned from countries around the world, and his company is now sinking fast. Game over, it seems. It could only get worse if someone files charges. You should have listened to me, fucker.

It`s all been a very interesting case study in social media and virality though.

you're not accounting for people's incredibly short attention spans. If anything they're gaining more publicity. a lot of people made up their minds about getting emotional so they'll look him up, dislike the stuff and move on while a huge chunk are permanently hooked in. This is the type of company you either love or hate with a passion. They have enough money to sustain servers and youtube protects content creators like a motherfucker. People forgot about kony, snowden, the nsa, ferguson, even ebola.
 
That Julian guy is a scumbag. I`ve got nothing against pickup as a whole, I was heavily involved in it until a couple years ago. And I`m familiar with RSD and know Alexander who is (was) an instructor with them, and in general RSD has created a lot of valuable content. But Julian tried to create this kind of Slim Shady style alter ego, and he actually started to become like that from what I can see. He was too stupid to realize that he had fanboys who would imitate him and his alter ego and cause problems.

I live in Japan, and about a year ago some of his fans came to Japan and were being fucking RETARDS - throwing their arms around girls on the street and not letting go, the girls were pulling away and screaming. I was like "What the fuck are you guys doing? If you want to get with a Japanese girl, just have a chat and smile, and don`t be scary." They told me "Yeah, we were doing that but Julian said we needed to be way more physically aggressive". They had added me to a private facebook group they`d made for the trip, and Julian was member of the group so I had a look. They`d been posting videos of their approaches and Julian had told them to be way more physical, to "just grab the girl and don`t let go". I responded to him telling him he`s WAY off, and in Japan you can get yourself in big trouble doing that. He didn`t respond. I ended up avoiding those guys, and one of them ended up on the front pages of newspapers in Hong Kong and Korea for uploading his pickup videos to the internet. Locals were PISSED not only at him but at white guys for being arrogant douches. I deleted that guy on all channels.

9 or 10 months later this Julian thing blows up, and there he is in the videos doing the same kind of shit I had seen his followers do --- except that his followers freaked the girls out much more than him. What kind of an idiot does he have to be to not understand that impressionable followers who look to him as a celebrity are going to recklessly try to imitate him, yet not have the charisma to "get away with" it? RSD fans are all saying "We know Julian was just joking" but I saw his followers acting like molestors after being advised by him, the guy was not joking.

Well, I guess his charisma only helped him get away with it for so long. In Japan the yakuza are now out to get him (they`re tied to Japan`s ultranationalists, who don`t appreciate their women being humiliated --- well, at least not by non-Japanese men). The police want him too. And every foreigner here wants to whoop his ass for making us all look like douchebags. He`s getting banned from countries around the world, and his company is now sinking fast. Game over, it seems. It could only get worse if someone files charges. You should have listened to me, fucker.

It`s all been a very interesting case study in social media and virality though.
I'm of two minds on this, and I have trouble reconciling the conflict.

On the one hand, this is a major issue that bothers me a lot as well. You basically have people trying to make money off of this shit by being "more extreme" or whatever the fuck, and instead of actually trying to help these men, they just teach them to act like stupid fucking jackasses.

It's like yes, situations exist when it's perfectly fine to put your hand around a girl's neck in public when you first meet her, but it requires you to be able to read the situation and handle yourself in a way that causes it to be a good experience for her.

On the other hand, he's exploiting the situation to get paid, and it's hard to fault him for that. Don't knock the hustle, etc.
 
Always wanted to know why on earth would someone want to live in japan permanently, like is it the type of place you can be consistent with mental health as a westerner. why would you ever want to be part of a culture you can't act like a retard in? unless you're into conformity and being a 2nd class citizen

There`s plenty of room for retarded behavior in the right contexts and as a Westerner you can express yourself more freely without being seen as a weirdo, because as a foreigner you often get a pass. My only problem is with the foreigners who abuse that and go way beyond what they would do back home, because they feel Japanese people are too timid to stop them. Julien`s not the first one to do that, but he did do that. Regular party behavior is cool, and I did some crazy shit with Alexander in Tokyo --- but nothing involving grabbing girls (outside of a club context with rapport, that is).

Why a Westerner would live in Japan permanently...well there are different reasons. People are mostly either escaping from something back home or seeking something they don`t have back home.



you're not accounting for people's incredibly short attention spans. If anything they're gaining more publicity. a lot of people made up their minds about getting emotional so they'll look him up, dislike the stuff and move on while a huge chunk are permanently hooked in. This is the type of company you either love or hate with a passion. They have enough money to sustain servers and youtube protects content creators like a motherfucker. People forgot about kony, snowden, the nsa, ferguson, even ebola.

I`m not sure about that. This seems to be growing more by the day. Honestly I hope they make it through, because I have some love for the company even though I think Julien messed up big time (or should I say, I think Tyler let him mess up big time). They`re already losing some instructors though, and I think there are bigger reasons that they`re not talking much at the moment.


On the one hand, this is a major issue that bothers me a lot as well. You basically have people trying to make money off of this shit by being "more extreme" or whatever the fuck, and instead of actually trying to help these men, they just teach them to act like stupid fucking jackasses.

It's like yes, situations exist when it's perfectly fine to put your hand around a girl's neck in public when you first meet her, but it requires you to be able to read the situation and handle yourself in a way that causes it to be a good experience for her.

I`m conflicted about this too. Because on the one hand they have put out a HUGE amount of free content, 98% of which is pretty standard pickup and/or self-development advice for men and are good quality/useful. But with the amount of content they put out, they aim a certain amount of it at advanced guys who should be experienced enough to know things like you don`t actually squeeze the woman`s neck, you just place your hand there and apply no pressure. When I saw footage of the "choke opener" I immediately knew he wasn`t applying pressure. (I`ve never done the choke thing, but just observing the video)

But there will always be less experienced and less adept guys watching those videos as well. RSD, in my opinion, really overestimates the ability of some of its followers to be able to make distinctions like that. There have always been guys who come to the pickup community not because they want to get laid more, but because they are completely socially inept, and in some cases have asbergers, have never had any friends their whole life, etc. So I think they`ve been reckless in assuming that content will be understood and applied properly. If they`re teaching anything on the razor`s edge it should be taught in person so they can very carefully direct the students.

The Japan video was just beyond all red lines. I think he met it all as just "Hey look I`m a wild man" rather than as pickup advice, but you just can`t do the things he did in the video. And if you get hammered and end up doing them, don`t put it in a seminar video and act like it`s the most awesome thing ever.
 
I`m not sure about that. This seems to be growing more by the day. Honestly I hope they make it through, because I have some love for the company even though I think Julien messed up big time (or should I say, I think Tyler let him mess up big time). They`re already losing some instructors though, and I think there are bigger reasons that they`re not talking much at the moment.

I wouldn't be too worried about them going down. just hope this doesn't fuck shit up for you guys living there
 
Just saw this, almost feel bad for the guy now:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPT5dFHK3wo"]CNN interviews Julien Blanc (11-17-2014) - YouTube[/ame]
 
There is a huge stink in Switzerland about the guy right now.

20 Minuten - Kommt der Aufreiss-Künstler in die Schweiz? - News
(Sorry, German)

https://translate.google.com/transl...r-Aufreiss-Kuenstler-in-die-Schweiz--16244011
(Google translate - at times lulz, but you'll get the gist)


Seems he is planned to speak and people are trying to do something against it.

However, the location is not being disclosed and police say there is nothing they can do, as he is just voicing an opinion, not asking people to commit rape.

::emp::
 
Just saw this, almost feel bad for the guy now:

CNN interviews Julien Blanc (11-17-2014) - YouTube

Eh, I could understand why you feel that way. The media and feminist activists are making him out to be a complete monster, and I don't think that's the case.

Bombastic was on the money: The issue isn't so much that the PUA coaches are pulling off questionable social stunts. The issue is that impressionable guys look at this shit and think they have enough finesse, control, and charisma to do the the same stuff and get away with it.

They don't.

So they end up terrorizing women instead of intriguing or seducing them.

Julien Blanc is at best irresponsible. At worst, an assault/harassment advocate.

Either way, I knew it was only a matter of time before RSD was put on the hot seat for their antisocial shenanigans.

P.S. Is it just me, or is there something kind of sociopathic about Owen Cook? The dude has one of those natural cult-leader personalities. He's also said some "PUA" stuff that left me feeling pretty uncomfortable... as in, "holy shit, this guy genuinely doesn't look at women like human beings. At all."
 
That interviewer raped him so hard, he could've yelled out pikachu to end the interview.

It was the right thing to do though, I imagine if julien wasn't all nervous people would just continue thinking he's a complete sociopath. They got what they wanted.

He`s being disingenuous about what he teaches. But I suppose he has to be, or this would never blow over.

He`s taken down videos with his darker material in it and he`s apologizing so that`s something. And he has had the terror of his life so I suppose that`s punishment enough. The rest of it can be handled internally at RSD. I`m sure there are a lot of "I told you so"s going on.
 
There is a huge stink in Switzerland about the guy right now.

20 Minuten - Kommt der Aufreiss-Künstler in die Schweiz? - News
(Sorry, German)

https://translate.google.com/transl...r-Aufreiss-Kuenstler-in-die-Schweiz--16244011
(Google translate - at times lulz, but you'll get the gist)


Seems he is planned to speak and people are trying to do something against it.

However, the location is not being disclosed and police say there is nothing they can do, as he is just voicing an opinion, not asking people to commit rape.

::emp::

I'm actually surprised (even thru a bad google translation) at how smart those comments left by the swiss people seem, considering they've probably never looked at the content.

"if it didn't work, there wouldn't be a market"
 
I'm actually surprised (even thru a bad google translation) at how smart those comments left by the swiss people seem, considering they've probably never looked at the content.

"if it didn't work, there wouldn't be a market"

Wait..wut?

You think that is a smart comment?

Nine out of ten participants enjoy a gang rape.

I must be in your list of smartest people ever now.

::emp::
 
I'm actually surprised (even thru a bad google translation) at how smart those comments left by the swiss people seem, considering they've probably never looked at the content.

"if it didn't work, there wouldn't be a market"

That's probably one of RSD's sheeple.
 
Just saw this, almost feel bad for the guy now:

CNN interviews Julien Blanc (11-17-2014) - YouTube

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