Full ajax sites, the future?

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For the most part, your average website is a slideshow in a sense, static sites in which visiting separate pages require a momentary "loss" of the interface/design after the click.

Ajax/js helps rid this problem. I'm no "pro" when it comes to coding, and especially not ajax/js, in fact I just started learning it the other week by building a site: FrenchCry.com | Let it out - The login, the register, the posting, basically everything about it is 100% ajax/js and there are no page reloads.

As far as the "user experience" is concerned, while trying not to be biased, it seems most ideal when you don't have to wait for an entire page to reload and have the design disappear for a brief second..

Of course there are issues that are probably hindering the prevalence of full ajax sites. One being an excessively large *initial* page load if it's a big site with a lot of JS. Two being a useless back-button, though if the site is designed/structered well enough, that might not be such an issue.

Anyhow, thoughts? Just some food for thought, bored waiting for food to cook. :)
 


I like it a lot from user interface standpoint but Gyppos right it'd be hella hard to SEO a site with only one page. (read you can't do it for much more than 2 keywords)

Anyway how long did it take you compared to say a page with normal amounts of reloads.
 
It's same as with Flash - use it ONLY where appropriate (and use unobtrusive solution). Why a full ajax site? Because it looks "oh-so-web2.0-ish"? C'mon, this is internet, not a desktop application.
 
Houdas said:
It's same as with Flash - use it ONLY where appropriate (and use unobtrusive solution). Why a full ajax site? Because it looks "oh-so-web2.0-ish"? C'mon, this is internet, not a desktop application.
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I tend to agree. Although login procedures and editing processes has been quickened by Ajax (and become more comfortable), full 100% AJAX sites get on my nerves full 100%.

Most of the times, it is just flashyness, not usability that is achieved.

Use it where appropriate:

Commenting, login procedure, editing, rating stuff.

Also, you are introducing a whole other level of PoF (possibility of failure)
with Ajax, your site can break in several more ways than just with PHP.

- Javascript
- HTML / Javascript connection (naming of DOM elements, for example)
- Javascript browser compatibility
- CSS browser issues
- PHP
- PHP / Javascript connectivity
- Security issues in Javascript, PHP, ...

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As with the other comments here ... I love AJAX, would love all sites I use for Interwebbing to be full AJAX, but the sites I
use to buy oatmeal and baby wipes and pay the cable bill etc. need something else.

I can remember a few years ago when full Flash sites were the way of the future, "all sites will be Flash by 2008" kind of stuff floated around a lot, but of course it didn't happen because SEs can't read Flash -- they would have to depend on unrelated but adjacent text supplied by content providers to describe the Flash, which of course would be the end of search engines since every keyword would return an ad for Cialis or Golden Palace.


Frank
 
btw, when I submitted the form, I got nowt but a blank screen. safari, mac os tiger 10.4
 
You also lose the ability for users to copy-paste a link and email it to a friend, so going viral with something is an issue.
 
Priority_Mail90 said:
You also lose the ability for users to copy-paste a link and email it to a friend, so going viral with something is an issue.
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not quite... can display a textbox with a URL to "paste to friend".. I think you can generate URL's ie: blah.com/?linkid=4234 and have the JS look for $_GET['linkid'] and have it display the suitable content if it exists, though i'm no expert but it seems doable.
 
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