How expensive could gas get?

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Old Goat said:
US gas prices were better years ago when India and China were using carts and bicycles. I remember when gas went over 30 cents a gal. I thought that was horrible.

The way I see it, this mess started when you lime juicers got out of India and China. Especially India... those poor folks haven't had a decent infrastructure since the Brits lefts. They're still trying to get by with roads and hospitals England built. You need to get your tails back in there and fix things - you Brits were great at Imperialism.

I know I'm the pot calling the kettle black - we Americans should get back in Central and South America too and clean those places up (Been a little busy in the Middle East here lately). If England and America would snap out of this politically correct funk we've drifted into, and go back to helping (running) these 3rd world countries, everybody would be better off. They would have better economies, modern infrastructure, and stable governments. We would have lower gas prices and better hotels when traveling.

Of course, you all know I am in favor of drilling in Alaska and off the Gulf Coast - then telling OPEC to go jump in the lake.
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LOL... and who said American's don't do sarcasm!


Wait.. that wasn't serious was it?
 
oogie1947 said:
Screw OPEC, drill in Alaska and North Dakota, use shale oil, and gasify coal. Tell the Arabs thanks but we do not need or want your oil.
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Without a socialist/communist government running state owned oil companies wouldn't that oil from Alaska and North Dakota still just be put up on the commodity market and sold to the highest bidder?
 
Netphase said:
Without a socialist/communist government running state owned oil companies wouldn't that oil from Alaska and North Dakota still just be put up on the commodity market and sold to the highest bidder?
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Not Socialist/Communist Grasshopper.... just a Nationalist government that would give us first dibs. Anything left over could go on the free market. We'd probably work some sweet deals with our friends - especially our buddies in Merry Ole England and Denmark and Canada ( wait Canada has tons of oil too) - who knows.

Even if we played straight Laissez-faire, with all that American fuel flooding the market, prices would go down. And as an added bonus, OPEC would no longer be able to pick a price per barrel in some smoky room.
 
Netphase said:
Without a socialist/communist government running state owned oil companies wouldn't that oil from Alaska and North Dakota still just be put up on the commodity market and sold to the highest bidder?
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Not Socialist/Communist Grasshopper.... just a Nationalist government that would give us first dibs. Anything left over could go on the free market. We'd probably work some sweet deals with our friends - especially our buddies in Merry Ole England and Denmark and Canada ( wait Canada has tons of oil too; like all of Alberta or something) - who knows.

Even if we played straight Laissez-faire, with all that American fuel flooding the market, prices would go down. And as an added bonus, OPEC would no longer be able to pick a price per barrel in some smoky room.

P.S. Hey Lazy Hippy, perhaps you lime juicers should have held on to Canada too... heh heh
 
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Old Goat said:
Not Socialist/Communist Grasshopper.... just a Nationalist government that would give us first dibs. Anything left over could go on the free market. We'd probably work some sweet deals with our friends - especially our buddies in Merry Ole England and Denmark and Canada ( wait Canada has tons of oil too; like all of Alberta or something) - who knows.

Even if we played straight Laissez-faire, with all that American fuel flooding the market, prices would go down. And as an added bonus, OPEC would no longer be able to pick a price per barrel in some smoky room.

P.S. Hey Lazy Hippy, perhaps you lime juicers should have held on to Canada too... heh heh
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Er.. we did, kinda.

Nah, Imperialism didn't work 100 years ago, won't work now. Look what has happened to all the empires throughout history, they fall apart and die.

Drilling in Alaska or elsewhere isn't going to solve this problem, the only thing it might do is delay it a bit. So go rape Alaska to keep your gas cheap and fuck things up for your kids or grandkids... great plan.
 
Its not the Arabs who set the price of oil... its the western Oil Companies
 
You ( Britain) had the Middle East oil fields after WWI - not from Imperialism, but by right of Conquest ( Fall of the Ottoman Empire).

Again, this mess started when Britain pulled out and let the local yocals take over. Things were better when the Brits and French were in the Middle East (personal opinion). At least back then, you could walk into a bar and get a drink!

As for Alaska, I hope my children and grandchildren will be able to tap into those oil fields in their lifetime, because a handful of tree-huggers have screwed things up in America, making it near impossible to build refineries, drill for oil, etc....

I've got nothing against alternative fuel - but in the meantime, while we are developing/ transitioning to these technologies, lets use some of our own oil and make it more affordable for the average American to get back and forth to work, school etc....
 
When it hits $97/gallon, with a free ebook plus bonuses.

I don't think there is a limit, especially in europe. People will complain but will keep filling up the tank.

What i'm wondering is. Who is earning the big dollars for all these price increases?
 
agua said:
Its not the Arabs who set the price of oil... its the western Oil Companies
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It's not Oil Companies who set oil prices.

Wall Street set the price of oil by speculating on energy futures and pricing. If your worried about how much profit the oil companies are making off oil look into how much profit traders are making off energy stocks atm.
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You guys still use gas? I bought this ebook from Clickbank and have only been filling my car up with water.
 
Andrew said:
You guys still use gas? I bought this ebook from Clickbank and have only been filling my car up with water.
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Gah, don't joke about that. lol. My dad emailed me all excited about his new 'find', someone took him to the bank with that offer... hes getting too old.


As much as it will suck for the poor and old, I'd like to see it hit $8-$10 a gallon before Feb '08. It'd have to hit around $15 a gallon before it'd change my habits (fuck the cost, do it for good reasons) and with that said, I'll be all over the Volt or if I strike it rich, the Tesla roadster. Once gas gets to be a burden for the middle class, we'll see a demand for cleaner transportation.
 
My driving habits did not change at $3 per gallon.

At $4 per gallon I'm conscious of not doing extra driving, combining trips out to the store into one trip, using the more gas efficient car sometimes, etc.

At the $7 per gallon mentioned, or $200+ per tank for me, I'd go out and buy myself a bike to start riding to local places.

-Raymond
 
The Tesla Roadster is a really good exercise in seeing how people really don't connect the dots.
Let's say you're the sort of person that'd buy a roadster or a hummer, or other sort of gas guzzler anyway, and that you rarely leave the city (most people don't after all).
The simple maths on fuel is that it's been rising in price by about 10%p.a.c. since '03
Let's say you're currently spending $100 on fuel per week now (I know I am). So this year I'm paying $5,200 for fuel, next year it'll be $5,720, etc. In 10 years it'll be $14,720

It'll pay itself off in 8-9 years from the fuel savings alone.
 
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