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One good argument for evolution? Ok:
iTWire - Evolutionary trajectory of complex traits observed
Evolution in motion.
It represents the same thing. It's a unit, if you like. Just like minutes and hours represents the same thing.. TIME. Micro is minutes, macro is hours.
You can't take single small steps without eventually walking a mile.
You wouldn't know correct grammar if it hit you in the face with a hammer. I don't think you can say who has, or who has not, mastered the English language.
You're as much an authority on the English language as you are on Science.
Go back to your mom's basement and smoke some more weed. You're making yourself look stupid and everyone is laughing at you.
Hello Russky.
One good argument against yours would be my typical response to a creationist's plead:
"But where did it all come from? Darwinism can't explain it!"
Well, dear Russky, Darwinism does not even try to explain that.
How come?
A good question and a simple answer:
The theory of evolution is the theory of how speciesation works, not of the origin of life.
So, yes... in theory, the first bacteria could have come from a noodly appendage of some deity or other.
Another of your points was that "no caveman has ever been found".
Well, I am sorry to disappoint you yet again.
The fossils of the Neanderthals (or homo sapiens neanderthalensis) have actually been discovered in Germany first (in the Neanderthal , meaning "Neander Valley" near Dusseldorf), then across Europe and Asia.
Those are the members of the homo sapiens group that would be the closest fit for the unfocused description "caveman" I can think of.
All in all, this thread leaves me with the impression that you did not actually "start to ask questions" but rather stopped to do so.
Dear Sir, if you really, really, really want to ask questions, sit down with a book that might go counter to your beliefs and read and ask.
I suggest "On the Origin of Species" by Charles Darwin, 1859.
It is, without doubt, one of the most beautiful scientific texts around. A true pleasure for the curious mind.
With kind regards,
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One good argument against yours would be my typical response to a creationist's plead:
"But where did it all come from? Darwinism can't explain it!"
Well, dear Russky, Darwinism does not even try to explain that.
How come?
A good question and a simple answer:
The theory of evolution is the theory of how speciesation works, not of the origin of life.
So, yes... in theory, the first bacteria could have come from a noodly appendage of some deity or other.
Another of your points was that "no caveman has ever been found".
Well, I am sorry to disappoint you yet again.
The fossils of the Neanderthals (or homo sapiens neanderthalensis) have actually been discovered in Germany first (in the Neanderthal , meaning "Neander Valley" near Dusseldorf), then across Europe and Asia.
Those are the members of the homo sapiens group that would be the closest fit for the unfocused description "caveman" I can think of.
All in all, this thread leaves me with the impression that you did not actually "start to ask questions" but rather stopped to do so.
Dear Sir, if you really, really, really want to ask questions, sit down with a book that might go counter to your beliefs and read and ask.
I suggest "On the Origin of Species" by Charles Darwin, 1859.
It is, without doubt, one of the most beautiful scientific texts around. A true pleasure for the curious mind.
With kind regards,
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I not going to go over the same issues. You'll all missing the main point. Have you checked F.Cricked, Have you read Eugenics, Sometimes my sentences dont make since a little I admit. But thats cause English is my 3 language, I still haven't seen anybody on this thread masters of there own native language. Thats pretty sad.
Quit taking my stuff out of context. Calling me a moron without anything really good to say. You sound like Pot Heads and Kids on the play ground.
Hitler wasn't metal (Zombie looking guy). He was a sane person, with a set of beliefs he took very literary. Micro and Macro Evolution is different look it up, Zombie you think you're so smart but most of what you said can be broken down and taken apart. There's just to many of you. Im not even sure what to respond to.
Okay Give me one Good Argument, and I'll wipe my ass with it, and put in right back in your mouth.
^^^my point.
I already said I'm not getting into this(I'm not wasting my life downloading a longass video about a topic I've already researched), and turbo said pretty much what I would've.
Great job proving my point though. Salutations.
Dush heres my house and my car. You look like you're doing this from your moms basement. I never claimed to be an Authority in English or science thats why I provide link to back my shit up.
Like the stonework, I did that.
yeah its a BMW.
I also have a bank account statement. But I wont show you that. I dont want to make you look like a complete looser. I mean I got I this, and I cant even spell.
You must have missed my reply, I'm still waiting for you to
wipe my ass with it, and put in right back in your mouth.
Dush heres my house and my car. You look like you're doing this from your moms basement. I never claimed to be an Authority in English or science thats why I provide link to back my shit up.
Like the stonework, I did that.
yeah its a BMW.
I also have a bank account statement. But I wont show you that. I dont want to make you look like a complete looser. I mean I got I this, and I cant even spell.
You sir are comedy gold. :love-smiley-083:
As for everybody else. I'll have sometime tonight, business is killing me today and its Sunday. Crazy. Hope to keep the peace, after all I'm here to learn about marketing.
Emp - This book was read - "On the Origin of Species" I'm not sure how you can take this book seriously. I mean he based everything on his understanding of how simple a cell was. Now we know so much more. Not even sure he would have the same understanding if he saw the cell is a Universe in it self, not even talking about the atom.
DNA
1 - DNA is the abbreviated name for the genetic code and it is exactly that - a code. It is a molecular string of chemical information.
2- When we were in our mother's womb we started off as a single cell not even weighing an ounce at conception. Eventually we developed arms, hands, legs, feet and organs such as brain, heart, lungs, liver, stomach, until we had a complete body.
3-Where did the material come from for that one cell to multiply into billions of more cells of equal size and eventually making a body weighing several pounds from something that didn't even weigh an ounce in the beginning. The material came from our mother's food.
4-Even after all our organs are formed the cells that make up our organs are continually dying and need to be replaced. Again, the material to make more cells to replace the ones that are dying comes from food. (I think at least 5 proteins were needed if you believe we came from soup, were did they from)
5-Mutations are accidental changes in the sequence of the genetic code caused by radiation and other environmental forces. Most biological variations, however, are not from mutations but from new combinations of already existing genes.
6-Because they are accidents in the genetic code, almost all mutations are harmful. Even if a good mutation does occur for every good one there would be hundreds of harmful ones with the net effect over time being harmful, if not lethal, to the species as a whole.
7-Evolutionists hope that with enough time and with enough mutations new genes for entirely new traits will be produced leading to the evolution of new biological kinds. There is no evidence that this can happen from accidental changes in the sequence of the genetic code, anymore than it's possible to change a romance novel into a book on chemistry by accidental changes in the sequence of the letters.
8-At the very best mutations can only produce new varieties of already existing genes or traits, but not new genes or new traits. For example, mutations in the gene for human hair may change that gene so that another type of human hair develops but the mutations won't change the gene so that feathers or wings develop!
9- No one has shown that DNA can come into existence by chance! It takes DNA to get DNA! In other words, there must already exist DNA to direct the formation of more DNA.
10-The mathematical odds of even the simplest DNA molecule coming into existence by chance is comparable to a monkey typing the sequence of all the letters and words in an entire encyclopedia by randomly hitting the keys on a computer keyboard or typewriter.
Most important.
Science cannot prove the existence of God but science cannot prove that we are here by chance either. However, the scientific evidence does show that it is not rational or logical to believe that DNA, life, and the universe came about by chance. Belief in chance or evolution is blind faith.
Emp - This book was read - "On the Origin of Species" I'm not sure how you can take this book seriously. I mean he based everything on his understanding of how simple a cell was. Now we know so much more. Not even sure he would have the same understanding if he saw the cell is a Universe in it self, not even talking about the atom.
DNA
1 - DNA is the abbreviated name for the genetic code and it is exactly that - a code. It is a molecular string of chemical information.
2- When we were in our mother's womb we started off as a single cell not even weighing an ounce at conception. Eventually we developed arms, hands, legs, feet and organs such as brain, heart, lungs, liver, stomach, until we had a complete body.
3-Where did the material come from for that one cell to multiply into billions of more cells of equal size and eventually making a body weighing several pounds from something that didn't even weigh an ounce in the beginning. The material came from our mother's food.
4-Even after all our organs are formed the cells that make up our organs are continually dying and need to be replaced. Again, the material to make more cells to replace the ones that are dying comes from food. (I think at least 5 proteins were needed if you believe we came from soup, were did they from)
5-Mutations are accidental changes in the sequence of the genetic code caused by radiation and other environmental forces. Most biological variations, however, are not from mutations but from new combinations of already existing genes.
6-Because they are accidents in the genetic code, almost all mutations are harmful. Even if a good mutation does occur for every good one there would be hundreds of harmful ones with the net effect over time being harmful, if not lethal, to the species as a whole.
7-Evolutionists hope that with enough time and with enough mutations new genes for entirely new traits will be produced leading to the evolution of new biological kinds. There is no evidence that this can happen from accidental changes in the sequence of the genetic code, anymore than it's possible to change a romance novel into a book on chemistry by accidental changes in the sequence of the letters.
8-At the very best mutations can only produce new varieties of already existing genes or traits, but not new genes or new traits. For example, mutations in the gene for human hair may change that gene so that another type of human hair develops but the mutations won't change the gene so that feathers or wings develop!
9- No one has shown that DNA can come into existence by chance! It takes DNA to get DNA! In other words, there must already exist DNA to direct the formation of more DNA.
10-The mathematical odds of even the simplest DNA molecule coming into existence by chance is comparable to a monkey typing the sequence of all the letters and words in an entire encyclopedia by randomly hitting the keys on a computer keyboard or typewriter.
Most important.
Science cannot prove the existence of God but science cannot prove that we are here by chance either. However, the scientific evidence does show that it is not rational or logical to believe that DNA, life, and the universe came about by chance. Belief in chance or evolution is blind faith.
Science: Darwinism might be flawed, although it is the best explanation given the present evidence we must continue to use the scientific method to disprove it and come up with better explanations or be humble and admit that at present we don't know fully how life came about and may not for many millenia to come.
Intelligent design: Darwinism might be flawed, therefore God(s) did it.
Intelligent design: Darwinism might be flawed, therefore God(s) did it.
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Oh, i know there are religious people out there that actually believe in evolution and don't want to force anything on anyone. And there are probably a lot of atheist nazis out there that would like to kill all jews, christians, black people and muslims.
Besides the point though. Creationism should not be taught in school any more than any other myths like, scientology, pastafari or whatever. It is very important that only facts are taught in school so that religious groups can't get a hold of children when they are young.
Why is it OK for atheist and Liberals to force shit down everyone's throat?
In my life there are far more Obama dick sucking Liberals trying to force their shit on me than any religeous person. They force it on me while I watch TV. They force it on my children at school.
Practice what you preach liberal atheist!
Sawya Understand the point of this tread. Science communities Ignore the fact Darwinism has a core flaw and they wont admit . Now when someone else has an idea that stands up to Darwin's ideas, it gets shot down of black listed. I'm not here to talk about religion or God.
Look if a mathematical formula doesn't add up 5+5=11 there is a problem. DNA complexity = ? (But certainly not Darwin's ideas.) It just doesn't work.
BlueJam your article looks like it need some time. I'll check it out tonight.
Look if a mathematical formula doesn't add up 5+5=11 there is a problem. DNA complexity = ? (But certainly not Darwin's ideas.) It just doesn't work.
BlueJam your article looks like it need some time. I'll check it out tonight.
I think you may have a misunderstanding of the differences between theory and fact.
Addition is a fact, evolution is a theory.
All i see is assumptions based on misconception. Again. As usual.
Science has never claimed that we are here by chance. Misconception. Again.
Belief in evolution is believing in facts, so if believing in facts is blind faith. I'm with ya.
I would however, like to hear your own theory on how this intelligent designer created the universe out of nothing and also what empirical evidence you have to support your theory
Oh wait, wait, don't tell me.. let me guess... he/she pointed with his/her finger and said "EXIST!", and then everything just magically appeared? Ok, i'm with you so far. Now, HOW did this intelligent designers thought turn into energy and matter? Oh, right.. and how the heck did it create DNA if you need DNA to get DNA? WTF??
You don't really have to answer that. I know that you, or anyone else on this planet, don't have a theory. All you have is blind faith in a myth because you are afraid to face reality.
Science has never claimed that we are here by chance. Misconception. Again.
Belief in evolution is believing in facts, so if believing in facts is blind faith. I'm with ya.
I would however, like to hear your own theory on how this intelligent designer created the universe out of nothing and also what empirical evidence you have to support your theory
Oh wait, wait, don't tell me.. let me guess... he/she pointed with his/her finger and said "EXIST!", and then everything just magically appeared? Ok, i'm with you so far. Now, HOW did this intelligent designers thought turn into energy and matter? Oh, right.. and how the heck did it create DNA if you need DNA to get DNA? WTF??
You don't really have to answer that. I know that you, or anyone else on this planet, don't have a theory. All you have is blind faith in a myth because you are afraid to face reality.
It is shot down because they can't provide any evidence or reasoning at all.
Just turning up and saying "If not x, then y", of course it's going to get shot down.
You think facts = shit? If you don't like it facts and want to live in your own little world, turn of the TV and homeschool your children. And please, stay inside.
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