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Due to the democrats taking over, I thought it might be advisable to buy a gun now while I was still able to.

I've had both my own life and that of my family threatened several times due to my job, so the idea of buying a weapon has crossed my mind in the past.

The problem is that I have no idea about what I should be buying. What manufacturer, so on. I think I would leave it at home, and I'm fairly sure that it would stay in a combo-locked gun case while it was at home.

I'm not an enthusiast, I would look at this strictly as a tool purchase. I'm looking for the most bang for the buck, so to speak.

Any suggestions?

I am eligible for a concealed weapon permit.
 
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For home defense, get a Remington 870. With a rifle or handgun there is always the risk of over penetration. For concealed carry, I know a lot of people like the Springfield Armory XD or Kimber Ultra Carry II. I don't live in a state that allows concealed carry so I can't really comment.
 
I recommend a shotgun. Personally, I have a 12 gauge bolt action, but if I was buying new for home defense, I'd probably just go with a 20 gauge loaded with 00 shot... just as lethal up to 50 feet and a lot less kick. Not having to aim very precisely in an emergency is a good thing. As far as most handguns go, I could throw the damn thing more accurately than I can shoot it.
 
xd1978 said:
What good will it do you there? Just get ADT or life alert.
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Yeah, that'll do him a lot of good during the 10 minutes it takes them to get there.

If you don't have kids, don't bother with the safe. Just keep the gun unloaded and the ammo somewhere hidden. If you do have kids, but still need easy access to the gun, get a trigger lock, keep it unloaded, and hide the ammo someplace safe. If you're worried about your kids playing with it, take them to a gun range, let them shoot it, and make sure they realize that it's not a toy. Education is they key. If you shroud something in mystery, you give it appeal.

For home defense, get yourself a shotgun with a short barrel (for ease of maneuverability). Doesn't have to be anything fancy. Birdshot or buckshot. You're going to want to take it to a range and practice with it too - Contrary to what the movies would lead you to believe, shotguns don't produce a massive spread effect that will hit anything if you point it in the target's general direction. Learn to aim it.

If you're willing to put in the time to learn to aim properly, get yourself a 9mm handgun. Again, keep it somewhere hidden.

Never advertise the fact that you own a gun. If anything, that will make you a greater target. Learn to shoot, keep it clean, and for fucks sake, if you have kids, educate them while they're young (8-10 is a good starting age). My dad bought me a .22 rifle when I was in 2nd grade, taught me to shoot, and taught me to respect what I was holding. Guns aren't glamorous, they're killing tools. Make sure your kids know the consequences of firing a gun.
 
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Yeah, that'll do him a lot of good during the 10 minutes it takes them to get there.

My dad bought me a .22 rifle when I was in 2nd grade, taught me to shoot, and taught me to respect what I was holding. Guns aren't glamorous, they're killing tools. Make sure your kids know the consequences of firing a gun.
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Three kids.

Gun safe would be combination-locked, so adults would know the combo and could get to the gun in less than 30 seconds. Ammo would be on a shelf in the gun safe.

I was mostly worried about a scenario where I wasn't home and wife heard something downstairs that spooked her. We live in a custom home neighborhood, and we've got a total of 3 neighbors, with no houses right next to us. Kind of ruins a neighborhood watch when you've got nobody living there to watch things.

Omaha has been having a rash of home break-ins lately. Three instances in the last week of someone breaking into a house and confronting a homeowner who they didn't think was there.
 
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For home defense, get a Remington 870. With a rifle or handgun there is always the risk of over penetration. For concealed carry, I know a lot of people like the Springfield Armory XD or Kimber Ultra Carry II. I don't live in a state that allows concealed carry so I can't really comment.
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The scary guy at the gunshop swore that the Springfield XD series is the best thing out there right now. I poked around on the internet a bit and people seem to like them. Good thing too, because I already filled out the paperwork last weekend and am picking up a Springfield XD-40 cal tomorrow.

I'm not much of a gun-loving redneck, but I figure everyone should know how to shoot a handgun. Plus taking it down to the range is going to be a great stress reliever :D

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Actually the above pic isn't accurate. I think I got a sub-compact.

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shotguns are the classic choice for home defense, but anything larger than birdshot will penetrate walls, people, etc -- and if you're not loading 00buck, you're not using the shotgun right.

the best choice for home defense is to go with a handgun -- XD is a good weapon. penetration is no longer an issue with "frangible" ammunition -- and this is a necessity if you're in an apartment, or have children.

Frangible bullets are not made from a lead projectile covered with a copper jacket, but are composites of hybrid materials either pressed together at high pressure or glued together with adhesives. Frangible bullets are designed to break up into smaller pieces upon contact with harder objects or surfaces. The polymer-compound round produces no splashback and vastly decreased ricochets.

Frangible bullets will break up into small, less harmful, pieces upon contact with anything harder than they are. This maximizes the round's transfer of energy to the object and minimizes the chances that pieces of the bullet will exit the object at dangerous velocities. Each of the small fragments quickly loses any energy and therefore pose very little danger to any secondary targets. This means that full-power frangible bullets can be shot at target all the way up to muzzle contact without any worries that the bullet or case will ricochet and potentially hurt either the shooter or others.
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what hasn't been mentioned but should be an absolute PRIORITY for any gun owner is a lightweight, hand-sized flashlight with tail switch, similar to this:

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you Do Not Want to point a firearm at anything in the dark -- and if an intruder is in your home, night is usually when it happens. if you don't identify your target, you can end up making a mistake of epic proportions -- think shooting your kid, or your kid's delinquent friends.

don't have it mounted on your gun, keep it with your weapon at all times, and take a 20min crash course in night shooting -- a flashlight is an awesome evasion tool in low-to-no light environments.
 
nevele said:
you Do Not Want to point a firearm at anything in the dark -- and if an intruder is in your home, night is usually when it happens. if you don't identify your target, you can end up making a mistake of epic proportions -- think shooting your kid, or your kid's delinquent friends.

don't have it mounted on your gun, keep it with your weapon at all times, and take a 20min crash course in night shooting -- a flashlight is an awesome evasion tool in low-to-no light environments.
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Good call.

Yeah I really do not want to have my wife put a bullet into me in the dark. That would be bad. Not TOO bad because she recently insisted that we pick up about 600k in life insurance on me, but it would hurt a lot.

A shotgun with a trigger lock, and a handgun in a combo-locked case...we'll see what the wife says.
 
Mossberg Pump 12 Gauge is my vote. Load it with 00 or 000 Buck and go to the range a bit and get used to the spread. They are not magic but pretty close. At short range usually they are a little high.

For pistols I think there are tons of good guns from Glocks, Walthers to even Smith and Wesson 357s. Remember that you and the wife may only shoot once a year or so. Get something simple.
 
First of all, the sky-is-falling crowd who thinks Obama and the gubment is gonna come round up all their guns are crazy. Yeah, I said it. Maybe it's going to be more difficult to buy that machine gun or 50 caliber sniper rifle you've had your eye on, but otherwise you should be okay.

That being said, simply buying a gun isn't a solution. If you're going to get one and expect that you and your wife are going to be able to protect yourself should, God forbid, the need ever arise, you're both going to need to learn how it works and do some practicing... there are several gun clubs in Omaha. The gun makes a loud noise and jumps when the trigger is pulled so you guys need to get used to that. Get ear and eye protection and let some rip. Be sure to clean your gun after you shoot.

Since you're talking about a gun safe in the bedroom, I don't think shotguns are your best bet. I would recommend that you look at a revolver... a good old fashioned six shooter. They're not as pimp as a Glock or gold-plated Desert Eagle, but unless your ammo is bad, they almost never fail and you don't have to worry if a round is in the chamber. If you keep a semi automatic clip loaded for an extended period (whether it's in the gun or sitting next to it) and not using it, you run the possibility of losing spring tension (metal does fatigue) and potentially having a malfunction when the critical time comes. A .38 has very good stopping power and is not so powerful that your wife will be scared of the kick.

Good luck and pray that your wife doesn't shoot you in the balls when you're trying to sneak into the house late one night.
 
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