Safest wy to make a new Adwords account after a ban?

erect said:
Sorry to sound like an idiot, but are you suggesting getting this dedicated server and then installing a proxy script so you browse adwords online via a domain?

Then if you want 4 or 5 adwords accounts just set up new ip addresses on different domain names and visit adwords that way.

I know I've only got 3 posts at the wickedfire but if you could help a noob out I'd appreciate it.
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He suggests VPS so you can install adwords editor on it and use it when working on you compaigns, while keeping all another google crap (toolbar, analytics,gmail etc) on your PC
 


seolinker said:
Just want to confirm about new name ....is it really needed to obtain it ? I am just not sure my bank will allow to issue Visa Classic/MC Stantard under my penname, lol

New Ip's, New MAC address and even new PC is all right.

Simply only way I can use other name is to create LLC which is time and money and lot of shit with it. Which I really don't want to do.
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LOL.

Your new credit card will have all the same details as your other one except new number. Adwords uses AVS system, which ayzo already explained in a post above. Bassically, make up a bunch of bullshit besides street address + zip code.

Also, if your using a Linksys router you can change your IP and clone your MAC address in literally 3 minutes. Search Youtube to learn how.

New computer is not needed if you properly delete cookies. Most people don't realize just how many different fucking places those damn cookies are stored.

Here's some intresting stuff I've learned...

I've used the same domain name that was a part of a banned account. Didn't get banned.

I've logged into my old adwords account on accident... it didn't get the new one banned.
 
Sonny Forelli said:
+rep

Does this street number/zip verification only not work with Amex?
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Sorry forgot about amex, yes it will work for the address but you'll have to use your real name otherwise the transaction will probably get declined. But you can switch out the street name, city, and state.

erect said:
Sorry to sound like an idiot, but are you suggesting getting this dedicated server and then installing a proxy script so you browse adwords online via a domain?

Then if you want 4 or 5 adwords accounts just set up new ip addresses on different domain names and visit adwords that way.

I know I've only got 3 posts at the wickedfire but if you could help a noob out I'd appreciate it.
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What I suggest is using a dedicated server and then using something like remote desktop or a VNC to manage everything. You could use the server and setup a proxy but then you'll be back to having to delete cookies and enabling/disabling the proxy everytime you switch from previously banned google accounts.

seolinker said:
Just want to confirm about new name ....is it really needed to obtain it ? I am just not sure my bank will allow to issue Visa Classic/MC Stantard under my penname, lol
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If you have a common name like "Mike Smith" then you probably won't need a name change, but if you have a unique name like "Wolf Blitzer" or whatever then you run a slight risk of getting banned/slapped. But the good thing about visa/mastercard is that you can use anyname you want and the transaction will still go through ;)
 
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ayzo said:
What I suggest is using a dedicated server and then using something like remote desktop or a VNC to manage everything. You could use the server and setup a proxy but then you'll be back to having to delete cookies and enabling/disabling the proxy everytime you switch from previously banned google accounts.
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Perfect answer ... I didn't follow you the 1st time. The remote desktop thing really makes sense. So I suppose 1 dedicated server for each new account then.

I'm sure I can find a way to get my bandwidth's worth out of another new host.

grassy ass
 
Search the forum before asking a question - this question has been answered quite often.
 
re: using same domain - I had a new "everything" but forgot to change one of the domains. Busted. I'd get new ones to be safe.
 
Could run a proxy or VPN on a linux host, and use a VM on your local machine, tunneling all connections inside the VM through the linux host.. That way you don't waste bandwidth w/ VNC, or worry about cookie issues. :2twocents:
 
ayzo said:
1. Get a cheap windows dedicated server, you can get a basic intel celeron from volumedrive for $55 per month which is more than enough for managing adwords campaigns. The reason I suggest using a dedicated server is because if you're like most webmasters and have gmail, youtube, blogspot, analytics, adsense etc all linked to your previously banned google account they will easily trace it and you'll get banned/slapped again. With a dedicated server you won't have to worry about switching IP's and clearing cookies everytime you switch from various other google services to managing your campaigns.

2. Get a new credit card #, either apply for a new one or just call your bank and tell them you lost yours. As long as it's a visa or mastercard you'll be able to fool the AVS system and use any name and a fake address as long as your street number and zip code match up with your real address. So for example if you're real billing info is:

John Smith
123 Main st.
New York, NY 12345

You can use:

Adam Green
123 Ocean rd.
Miami, FL 1234

Anything that is NOT in bold can be changed to whatever you want and all charges will go through fine.

3. For hosting, you'll want new IP's, nameservers, domains, prosper202 tracking domains etc. It's usually a good idea to switch hosts anyways, especiall if you're using shared hosting.
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I did all of the above (a few days ago). After uploading the campaign, the ads for content network were pending review for several days. So I emailed support about it. I got an automated response saying that my account is under review. I am not sure what triggered it but I can think of several reasons:

keywords
Starting budget too high (I set at $300 per day)
When I was adding keywords, I accidently added a "pharmacy keyword", which was promptly removed.

I will let you know how it goes.
 
Danc1122 said:
The Adwords Editor fucks you over if your on same PC. I deleted everything I could find related to it and it still caught me when I re-installed it.

So if your going to make new account on same computer... that's fine... but I don't suggest trying to use Adwords Editor unless you know something I don't. lol

And be sure to delete all your flash cookies. Those fuckers are everywhere. You gotta delete them in like 3 different hidden folders.
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Did you delete everything from:

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Google

Does anyone have any evidence of Adwords Editor submitting computer unique information (from network packets)? I can't imagine anyone analyzed all network packets... but who knows.
 
webtrend said:
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Any chance Google makes a "map" of your old campaign's keywords, like a checksum value equal to all of them, and if you re-import the same list into a virgin account, the checksum is matched, and the review flags get tossed? This is what I would do if I were Google tech, look for your fingerprint via the keywords you used to run with. Nobody's account has exactly the same keywords if you think about it.
 
Thanks guys, no I don't have usual standart name and last name, but let it be. As for now all ok, just for the chance of risk:)
 
You don't need to change your pc. There are a lot of softwares out there that hide your MAC address (although I don't think it is necessary). Just use a cheap vpn, new name, new cc. I have the ability to create prepaid cards from my online banking and I used a lot of these to credit my accounts with vouchers. I also use different browsers because most of them have different locations for cache storing.
 
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