Mozilla executive tells Firefox users to use Bing

I pretty much only use Chrome. It's so much faster than IE/Firefox, it has better tabbed browsing (IMO), and I like the fact that you can have icons of your favorite sites (instead of folders). Plus, you can move around the tabs, unlike IE/FF.

Have you heard of Opera? Beats every browser in speed and ease of use. And it's pretty, more space, etc..
 


O Rly? Ever read into Standard Oil's History? What goes up, must come down.

So you're saying Google will only brought down by anti-trust stuff? Standard Oil was dominating before they were broken up. If anyone wants a good read for xmas, get Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller, [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Titan-Life-John-Rockefeller-Sr/dp/0679438084]Amazon.com: Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Sr. (9780679438083): Ron Chernow: Books[/ame]. Big read but worth it, what a legend.
 
That depends. What if Firefox suddenly changed their default search to Bing? The sheer convenience of using Bing in the search bar for non-technical users would trump typing in a URL, then typing in your query.

Even if FF did change its default search to Bing and all the non-technical users left it that way, FF still isn't popular enough itself to do serious damage to Google.

Besides:
One of the reasons for this is that the larger majority of Mozilla's revenue has always come from Google (about 97 percent). In November 2009, we noted that most of Mozilla's revenue was still being generated through search deals with Google and other popular website operators (one of the reasons why Dotzler can't simply push for Bing becoming the default search engine in Firefox). Google recently committed to extending its contract with Mozilla until 2011

I would love to see Google lose its position of power ASAP but realistically its not going to be soon. And how long before Microsoft starts increasing their data collection again in order to become as relevant and efficient as Google?
 
I try and tell people to use bing. When it comes to search, i think people use google out of habit. So i try and pump Bing whenever i get a chance. If you can get the college kids to use bing it would be over for google.
 
Sears used to be the worlds largest store until some guy named Walton came to town.

Oh yes! BTW that stuff features pretty well in Sam Walton's Made in America. Pretty kick-ass book and a good history of why Walmart screwed up Sears.

So you're saying Google will only brought down by anti-trust stuff? Standard Oil was dominating before they were broken up. If anyone wants a good read for xmas, get Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Amazon.com: Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Sr. (9780679438083): Ron Chernow: Books. Big read but worth it, what a legend.

I am not saying anything... I am just stating the fact. What goes up, must come down - world has mysterious ways of working. And I heard that book on Audio Book. Pretty good shit right in there too.

Oh and btw Add ATT to that list...
 
Google has branched into every sector of our Internet lives, and if Bing or anything else wants to push the behemoth over, their going to need to become that behemoth; something I cannot see Bing becoming, irrelevant of how many mistakes Google makes.

10 years from now, where do you see Google? Toppling over? I see them going from strength to strength unfortunately for us all.

So you're saying Google will only brought down by anti-trust stuff? Standard Oil was dominating before they were broken up.

Google will not be brought down by a single entity. Companies can do better with individual parts than a jack of all trades.

Google will be brought down when someone emerges with a better or equal (but more anonymous) search engine. That's all it will take.

95%+ of google's revenue is from advertising streams ... of that PPC (search) and adsense are a huge chunk. If searchers quit using google, the beast will fall because their PPC rev. will plummet. The content network will follow when another massive player emerges.

At that point, they will lose momentum and spiral downward since stockholders will be going crazy and demand changes.
 
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... take it from us "old guys". We've seen this stuff before.
Walmart > Sears, Netflix > Blockbuster, FCC > AT&T, Toyota > GM, FOXNEWS > NBC are just a few.

Give me something internet related at least. I don't know of any company of the size, stature and influence of Google that has been trounced.

With stuff like this people will generally keep to the same thing because its working for them, they search Google - they get results.

In a similar way you still have people using age old internet browsers because it works for them.

Google is going nowhere folks.
 
sure it will come down, but we could be waiting a while. And really, I have to laugh at Microsoft somehow now being the underdog everyone barracks for.

lets see how Google Wave does. If it really does take over from other social media sites, integrating them with email/gmail and google inserts Wave into its real time search they could be around for a long time to come. If everyone logs into their Wave instead of Facebook and Twitter and doesn't need to leave to read email OR do a search it would be pretty hard to penetrate that fortress.
 
Give me something internet related at least. I don't know of any company of the size, stature and influence of Google that has been trounced.

With stuff like this people will generally keep to the same thing because its working for them, they search Google - they get results.

In a similar way you still have people using age old internet browsers because it works for them.

Google is going nowhere folks.
Seriously, they make business schools for your kind. Get street smart enough to realize the truth of business rather than live in a fantasy world. Well lets just have time prove you wrong.
 
Give me something internet related at least. I don't know of any company of the size, stature and influence of Google that has been trounced.

you dont remember when Alta Vista was the search engine of choice? And Netscape was king in the browser wars until Microsoft integrated IE4 into Windows. Facebook killed MySpace even.

btw, why doesn't IE come with a Bing search bar and the bing site as home? surely that would be a start
 
Give me something internet related at least. I don't know of any company of the size, stature and influence of Google that has been trounced.

With stuff like this people will generally keep to the same thing because its working for them, they search Google - they get results.

In a similar way you still have people using age old internet browsers because it works for them.

Google is going nowhere folks.

AOL was once very mighty. I could probably dig back in the old files of the great booming stock bubble of circa 1998 and produce a list a mile long. Some that immediately come to mind are Collector's Universe (they were huge before eBay took them out), CMGI, pets.com, eToys.com, InfoSpace, @home (merged with Excite), etc....
 
Give me something internet related at least. I don't know of any company of the size, stature and influence of Google that has been trounced.

With stuff like this people will generally keep to the same thing because its working for them, they search Google - they get results.

In a similar way you still have people using age old internet browsers because it works for them.

Google is going nowhere folks.

Maitiu in 1997: Yahoo is going nowhere folks.

Maitiu in 1999: AOL is going nowhere folks.

Maitiu in 2001: Ask is going nowhere folks.

Maitiu in 2003: Friendster is going nowhere folks.

Maitiu in 2005: Myspace is going nowhere folks

go home.
 
btw, I cant believe Google's CEO said this:

"I think judgment matters. If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place."

Google is the fucking moral police now? What an arrogant and stupid thing to say.

Google do have an excellent strategy for staying on top though - they keep releasing shit that works and works better then the competion, or even takes things to the next level. The search engine IS still the best. Gmail was so much better then Hotmail - remember the days your inbox would fill up??? I dont like Chrome, but clearly it has its fans. Adwords does work pretty damn well compared to the competition. And now Wave.

Its a multiheaded hydra, could be a long time before bloat, overreach and feature creep - or simply someone with a revolutionary idea, sneakier marketing or more money and smarter legal department (your chance Microsoft?) - unseats them from the top.
 
Google will not be brought down by a single entity. Companies can do better with individual parts than a jack of all trades.

Google will be brought down when someone emerges with a better or equal (but more anonymous) search engine. That's all it will take.

95%+ of google's revenue is from advertising streams ... of that PPC (search) and adsense are a huge chunk. If searchers quit using google, the beast will fall because their PPC rev. will plummet. The content network will follow when another massive player emerges.

At that point, they will lose momentum and spiral downward since stockholders will be going crazy and demand changes.

This is why Google is diversifying their core competencies. Instead of just focusing on search, they have expanded to TV advertising, mobile (Android), etc. No offense, but I think it's a bit short-sighted to say that it will just take a better search engine to totally bring down Google (unless you just meant taking them down from the #1 search spot, of course).

It doesn't hurt that Google also isn't afraid to add new concepts to its search, either. Real-time search could have been something that made another SE unique, but Google took the concept and ran with it. Part of the reason Altavista and others failed is due to an inability to adapt, or at least not adapt in time.

I'm not saying Google will never get overtaken by something else, but that something else will have to be revolutionary. And then, what's stopping Google from just buying that revolutionary concept?