I Just Lost My Freakin Job! What Are Politicians Thinking?

Unemployment rate 10% roughly, depending where you are geo, 1 out of 10 people do not have a job. This means that whom wants to work, does. Are you planning on drawing unemployment, who do you think pays that? It is the past businesses that you were employed at, not the government.

The small businesses pay all of their taxes as an individual just like you then we have to pay it all over again as a corp. plus a bunch more. What about property tax for instance, if you are an individual you only pay if you own property, all small businesses pay whether or not you own property. All of the various business licenses, furniture and fixture taxes, equipment taxes, inventory taxes. If the company does squeak out a profit then more taxes. The list goes on and on. Business just paid your way for 8 years, be thankful for that.

To clarify one thing for you. Our current President does NOT help richer people whatsoever.
Democrats help poor people
Republicans help rich people
No one helps the middle people

Remember everything happens for a reason, if you lost this job then maybe something better is fixing to happen to you. Remain positive. Start looking for a new job immediately.
Hire yourself out as a writer online and with what ever money you make spend it on your IM efforts but only what you make from your online ventures.

Their are many freelance websites you can get work through, just Google freelance.
Their are several other forums that you could sell your services at.
Their are numerous guides to make money using free methods.
Google Stephanie Mulac - She has a very good methodology.
 


I don't understand the mentality of someone that gets fired then tries to connect that to the healthcare debate in DC.
 
I dont remember there being 10% unemployment in the Bush era. In fact my life was pretty good through those years.

I am saying the democrats and their constant desire to raise taxes on the rich is causing the rich, and even the not so rich in this administration, to hold on to their money or look for ways to save more money. All this does is hurt the people who depend on these people for jobs.

There are people who create jobs and people who work those jobs. Taxing the people who create the jobs creates fewer jobs because those creating jobs have no incentive to invest in employees or business.
 
So did you work at Sam's Club? This could very well be the best thing that happened to you. The day I got fired from Microsoft (or actually, told my boss -- visiting India from Seattle -- to go fuck himself) was the day that I actually started taking my business more seriously...
 
You lost your job because your company couldn't justify paying you any longer. Obama isnt the CEO and hasn't made any sweeping changes that would cause you to lose your job.

Why don't you accept responsibility for your own life instead of looking to the government to blame.

And my life has been great under Obama, but THAT DOESNT MEAN SHIT.
 
apsmacart said:
The small businesses pay all of their taxes as an individual just like you then we have to pay it all over again as a corp. plus a bunch more. What about property tax for instance, if you are an individual you only pay if you own property, all small businesses pay whether or not you own property. All of the various business licenses, furniture and fixture taxes, equipment taxes, inventory taxes. If the company does squeak out a profit then more taxes. The list goes on and on. Business just paid your way for 8 years, be thankful for that.

To clarify one thing for you. Our current President does NOT help richer people whatsoever.
Democrats help poor people
Republicans help rich people
No one helps the middle people
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I dont really understand half of what you said, but how to democrats help poor people? I am not rich - far from it. But, when the Bush tax cuts went into effect, my paycheck went up like $30. Democrats help the poor? When the Dems roll back those tax cuts, I loose that extra money I gained. How does that help?

Also, I wasnt connecting my unemployment to the Health Care debate. I just mentioned that as an aside.

My company couldnt justify my job any longer. That is correct. But there are things presidents can do during recessions to to make their duration shorter and less severe. Take what Reagan did with an even worst recession. That is how you make things better.

I dont mind the rich getting richer. I am glad they do. The rich getting poorer does not help middle class America in any way.
 
writtenstyle said:
I dont really understand half of what you said, but how to democrats help poor people? I am not rich - far from it. But, when the Bush tax cuts went into effect, my paycheck went up like $30. Democrats help the poor? When the Dems roll back those tax cuts, I loose that extra money I gained. How does that help?
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In the broad strokes Democrats favor a greater public "safety net" (welfare, food stamps, medicaid, etc...), than Republicans, almost always paid for via higher taxes. You may have lost your $30 but they would say that now that you are unemployed you can take advantage of the social services they have provided when those tax cuts were rolled back.
 
justo_tx said:
In the broad strokes Democrats favor a greater public "safety net" (welfare, food stamps, medicaid, etc...), than Republicans, almost always paid for via higher taxes. You may have lost your $30 but they would say that now that you are unemployed you can take advantage of the social services they have provided when those tax cuts were rolled back.
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My govt unemployment will be $250. I would much rather rely on the private sector over the govt any day. Why would anyone be willing to rely on the govt?

BTW, I am looking for a job, not being a moocher - at least no longer than I have to.
 
Republicans aren't opposed to helping others. See, in my vision of a perfect system there would be accountability. If somebody were to get on some sort of public assistance, they should pay it back when they have gotten back on their feet. Or they could do some sort of community service in the mean time while actively looking for a job.

This would obviously almost eradicate the corruption with these systems. The poor stay poor because there is no incentive for them to get off their fucking asses and attempt to better themselves. If they could pass legislation that brings personal responsibility back into the forefront I think America would be back on track.

I also think that anybody collecting public assistance should be routinely screened for drugs during the time they are on it. I don't think somebody collecting food stamps and welfare should have any business on the system if they feel they can still support their fucking drug habits along with their alcohol and tobacco addictions.
 
writtenstyle said:
I wish I could fathom that mindset. I am freaked out, bad.
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I'm not sure what field your in or your education level etc., but I'd start hitting the bricks and see what you can find. Check with friends and family and see if anyone has any connections that may get you an in somewhere. How about your old company's competitors? Possibly apply with them, or with companies that you did business with. Don't get too down. Collect your unemployment, but get back out there and find something, even if it's not exactly the position you held before.

I wouldn't recommend using that money you have in the bank right now for Facebook campaigns. Chances are you'll blow through it with not enough return to make it worth the risk.
 
writtenstyle said:
I wish I could fathom that mindset. I am freaked out, bad.
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The real risk you can take is to rely on your employers, past or future ones. Now you will have to learn how to hustle real fast. It will be scary at first, but once you have figured how to do it, you will be happier, richer and would never look back. Take the opportunity to rise to the occasion!
 
Koschei said:
The real risk you can take is to rely on your employers, past or future ones. Now you will have to learn how to hustle real fast. It will be scary at first, but once you have figured how to do it, you will be happier, richer and would never look back. Take the opportunity to rise to the occasion!
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Jesus Christ either you're fucking 12 or a retard - I'm not sure which.

He (or she?) has $4,000 and $250 a week to support his fucking family on and you're saying to go and "hustle" and rise to the occasion.

This isn't some movie douche fuck, this is real life. He doesn't have the money to test PPC, the money to wait for SEO to start working, and doesn't have the knowledge (no offence) to do anything without first failing a few times.

When there's family involved you take care of them. You work at fucking McDoanld's and use the discount to feed your family if that's what it takes.

You're so nieve and obviously haven't made a dime because you would be able to tell that he is in no situation to play around and try and "make it big". If the OP were making $200 a day consistantly and knew what he was doing then go for it. But he won't be able to succeed right away and the OP has more important things to take care of then campaigns - like finding a job that provides him with the income to play around online and take care of what he has at home.
 
Going against the grain is something I tend to do, so here goes nothing. . . I say spend part of it.

You only need $2k/month minimum to survive & (assuming) you can get $1k from unemployment ... I wouldn't spend your savings on monthly expenses if possible, just fix the leak.

As a copywriter, you should have NO PROBLEM getting hired on as a VA for $1k/month ($6.50/40 hour week or $8.33/30 hour week) and now your monthly expenses are covered.

Spend 1/2 of that $4k on a shot in the dark, either ppc (M$ only since you're on a tight budget) or picking up some kind of spam software/domains (senuke/xrum/LFE) and really doing something beautiful with it. Knowing & owning spam software would also increase your ability to pick up a VA job ... it'll also increase your pay.

Keep the other $2k as a buffer if things get really bad.

And taxes & unemployment ... meh. Ron Paul himself couldn't help you if you're intending to go back to working for the man. Your job will always be fungible. Try to do something to gain your independence, but make sure your family is fed 1st.
 
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FTC-hater^
Realistically true.
Like I tell my friends; work full time on your job, and part time on your fortune.

Till you can make the switch.
 
FTC-Hater said:
Jesus Christ either you're fucking 12 or a retard - I'm not sure which.

He (or she?) has $4,000 and $250 a week to support his fucking family on and you're saying to go and "hustle" and rise to the occasion.

This isn't some movie douche fuck, this is real life. He doesn't have the money to test PPC, the money to wait for SEO to start working, and doesn't have the knowledge (no offence) to do anything without first failing a few times.

When there's family involved you take care of them. You work at fucking McDoanld's and use the discount to feed your family if that's what it takes.

You're so nieve and obviously haven't made a dime because you would be able to tell that he is in no situation to play around and try and "make it big". If the OP were making $200 a day consistantly and knew what he was doing then go for it. But he won't be able to succeed right away and the OP has more important things to take care of then campaigns - like finding a job that provides him with the income to play around online and take care of what he has at home.
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Why so mad? Sure, he should get a regular job to pay the bills in the meantime, while working on his business...

But in the long run if you expect to keep working for other people and never get fired again, chances are the same thing will happen. He should work on his self-esteem, immediate cash flow and longer term business. If you stay in the mindset of working for someone else, that's what you will keep doing.

I am done with this thread.
 
i wouldn't tell newbies to get started on facebook anymore. its not what it was a year ago. im sorry thats not positive advice but the reality is facebook is much more competitive than it was.

I'd maybe check out plenty of fish, you can pretty much run anything there and roi seems easier.
 
Garrett said:
Dude... Facebook fuckin sucks man unless you use it to advertise something legitimate and different (i.e. Photoshop Repair & Red Eye Removal services). Good luck trying to use it direct link to CPA offers.

Sorry to hear about your job. I'd recommend going the SEO route for niche offers. Check out MarketHealth
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should of read the thread, this right here.
 
Koschei said:
Why so mad? Sure, he should get a regular job to pay the bills in the meantime, while working on his business...

But in the long run if you expect to keep working for other people and never get fired again, chances are the same thing will happen. He should work on his self-esteem, immediate cash flow and longer term business. If you stay in the mindset of working for someone else, that's what you will keep doing.

I am done with this thread.
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LOL, that's not what you said first douche fuck. Now you're just agreeing with what I've said all along.
 
+rep to FTC-Hater and Erect. Thanks for taking the time to write out such great responses with actionable content.
 
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