Any archers here?

Mike

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About 16 years ago I sold my Martin M1 Tiger and over time kind of forgot about archery. A few weeks ago, I realized I need to get out of the house more often and away from the computer, so I went to the local archery store. Talk about a shock! The technology has changed so much in 16 years! The bows are lighter, quieter and a shit-ton faster. Ended up buying a Mission Elimiantor 2 after testing some bows at the shop and doing a ton of research. They're a Matthews dealer, so they had a bunch of Matthews and Mission bows to choose from. They also carry Hoyt and PSE. Hoyt always just seemed to be too overpriced and PSE's used to suck ass (IMO) so there was no interest in a PSE.

Anyhow, I placed an order for an all black Eliminator, but after about a week of waiting said "fuck it, I want to shoot now" and ended up buying a camo one.

FUCKING LOVE IT!

I took my son with me to the range to pick it up and ended up buying him a bow as well. So, now we have a hobby we can do together. He's already talking about bowhunting, but I've never hunted before in my life. Besides, he's a few years away from being ready for bowhunting...

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Anywho...not sure what the point of this thread is really. Just excited about my new toy and that I can share it with my boy.

Anybody here bowhunters or paper shooters?
 


bowhunting is on my 2010 to do list. got into guns and upland game hunting a couple of years ago and have been crazy for it ever since. can't wait to bowhunt!
 
Dude, it's been like 14 years since a I shot a bow but I really enjoyed it. Wanna get me one of them things again soon, they're fun. You've probably seen it but, Nicolas Cage played a dude who loved archery in The Weatherman:
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I've been bowhunting for about 16 years now. Looking to get a new bow before next season, that Eliminator looks sweet! My 12 year old Golden Eagle just can't compare to the weight, quickness, and ease of any of the newer bows. Try to find a 3-D course in your area for a whole new shooting experience.
 
Good on you Dad!!!

First off congratulations on finding something to share with your son. You can definitely have great times shooting and forge memories that last a lifetime.

My father started me in Archery when I was just 5 years old and I shot regular well into my 20's.

At Camp Flying Eagle while in the Boy Scouts I got my Archery merit badge and learned how to make my own arrows & bow strings for my bow.


I still have a Browning Wasp re-curve 45 lb. pull that I bought when I was 14. ( It was passed down to my Nephew, but he gave it back to me a few years ago when he got his Compound Bow.) With that bow I shot targets, hunted, and then learned how to bow fish with it. (Maybe go from targets to bow fishing first if you are unfamiliar with hunting. It would be a good first step to get your son into nature with the bow. It will also teach him about eating what you kill and to kill ONLY what you intend to eat when either fishing or hunting. Hunting can be learned later.)


A quick note on Bow Fishing. I enjoy Bow Fishing just as much as Hunting with my bow. It's a different technique and you have to calculate the fishes movement, depth of the water, and the refraction of light to hit your mark. We use to practice with milk jugs. We'd fill them with water so they would sink, tie them to a stake on the shore, and them toss them out into the river to shoot at.


I've even shot competitions with that little Browning against the guys using compound bows. To "me" a compound bow feels like cheating. No real strain to speak of so you have plenty of time to just "Point and Shoot" like with a rifle. (Too easy to hit my target.) Don't get me wrong, Archery is Archery in my book. I just prefer either a re-curve bow or a Long Bow.


I use to shoot Black Powder rifles as well, competitions and hunting. I got to hunt for most of the year by taking advantage of Primitive weapons season, Black Powder season, and Archery season. These were of course in addition to regular hunting season.



I use to take old spent 4:10 shotgun and 30/30 rifle shells and make "Blunt" tipped arrows for hunting small game like Rabbits & Squirrels. Here in Florida we use to take old gallon milk jugs and tie them off to Palmetto bushes to practice shooting through brush at game on the ground.


We would also take some of the Blunt tipped 30/30 arrows and drill a 1/16" hole through the side of the tip and one more about a 1/4" below the first one at 90* to it. Then we would use wire fishing leader to loop through the holes and when we were finished it looked like a Four Leafed Clover. We then put on what was called a "Flu Flu" fletching back then. (Large frayed fletching that limited how far the arrow could fly.) We used these arrows to hunt Mourning Doves and Quail. The wire lops would either break their neck or their wing to bring them down.


I like using the Bow and Black Powder rifles for hunting because you have to get pretty close to your game. Not too many shots can be taken at over 200 yards. Compared to modern rifles where you can take a shot across a valley.

With a re-curve bow you have to "Time" your shot as well because you will start to shake if you hold the draw for too long before releasing. (Unlike the compound Bows where you have TONS of time to hold your draw.)


We use to get hay bails to use as a back stop for practicing with paper targets. We also use to cut the bottom out of Coffee cans and use old shafts to push into the hay and then slide the cans over them. We tried doing the same with Soda cans but that was REALLY hard to shoot the arrows into without shaving the shafts as they entered.

Shooting "INTO" the tube so to speak really made you focus. You had to try to control your angle of entry so as to NOT scrape your arrow shafts up.



It has been about 15 years since I've gotten the bow out, but I just walked over to the door jam and I can still "Rotate" the elbow of my bow arm "Down" and out of the way of the string. My father taught me to do this so that I did not need to use a forearm guard like most Archers.


Ok, enough of my rambling and reminiscing here. LOL


I wish you and your son well in your new found activity Mike.


Oh, and thank you for bringing back the wonderful memories I have of shooting with my father.


P.S. If you want to learn how to hunt without killing anything, get a camera with a fixed 50mm lens. (It's the same as our naked eye for magnification.) Then go out into the woods and stalk animals to get as large/close a picture as possible. You have to use the same techniques to find, track, and get close enough for the picture. The only difference is you aren't killing the animal. The closer the picture, the better you were at stalking/hunting.

This can actually be very rewarding in itself. Keeping an album of "Hunting" pictures is something I did for a few years after I got out of the Marine Corps.
 
Another thing you may want to try is paintball. I started when i was in fourth grade; idk how old your son is but its a blast. Definitely something that would be fun for both of ya.
 
Yep, I did a little bit about ten years ago. Increasingly, I've been thinking about taking it up again.

This thread may just tip the balance.

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It's been around 14 years since I've bowhunted, I used to love it though. My best bow was actually a PSE Elite I believe. Killed a lot of wild hogs, deer and turkey with it. The first kill I ever made I accidentally took out two hogs with one shot. The arrow went through the one I was aiming at and hit one that was behind it.

Best broadheads ever IMO were Delta Snuffers. They're tuff as hell and you can sharpen them with a file like razorblades.
 
I Still have my old Hoyt Newton in my parents basement. I tried bow hunting for a couple of years in high school. I never got a deer or even saw one for that matter.
 
@jbubs1975 - The Eliminator I got is fantastic for a sub $500 bow, and you'll be hard pressed to find anything negative about it. Go test fire one at you local Matthews dealer. While you're there check out the Z7. It'll run you about $850 - 900, but it is incredibly quiet and fast. At the range yesterday and 2 guys next to me were shooting Z7's and I kid you not, the arrows made more noise splitting the air than the bow did releasing them! Yeah, the Z7 is THAT quiet.

@Midas Touch - Thanks for sharing your trip down memory lane, I really enjoyed reading it. I tried bowfishing once long ago at my Granddad's place in Illinois and didn't do so well. The string got hung up on the rig and snapped the arrow back into my leg. It didn't penetrate because it hit me nock first, but it made me stop and think a bit. I like recurves as well, but I am insanely inaccurate with them, so I stick to what I'm good with. Plus, I'm kind of fascinated by all the gizmos and whodads for the compounds, and the speed.

I am seriously considering contacting an outfitter next year to try my hand at hunting. I figure the best way to learn is to have a pro show you. Maybe that's flawed thinking, but it'd also be nice to just show up with bow / arrows and clean socks and not have to worry about all the rest. :)
 
First off congratulations on finding something to share with your son. You can definitely have great times shooting and forge memories that last a lifetime.

My father started me in Archery when I was just 5 years old and I shot regular well into my 20's.

At Camp Flying Eagle while in the Boy Scouts I got my Archery merit badge and learned how to make my own arrows & bow strings for my bow.


I still have a Browning Wasp re-curve 45 lb. pull that I bought when I was 14. ( It was passed down to my Nephew, but he gave it back to me a few years ago when he got his Compound Bow.) With that bow I shot targets, hunted, and then learned how to bow fish with it. (Maybe go from targets to bow fishing first if you are unfamiliar with hunting. It would be a good first step to get your son into nature with the bow. It will also teach him about eating what you kill and to kill ONLY what you intend to eat when either fishing or hunting. Hunting can be learned later.)
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wow you Americans know how to hunt.

In my country if people want to hunt they get together in groups of 100+ (with about as many dogs) and spend the day running round the countryside, occasionally catching a fox.
 
wow you Americans know how to hunt.

In my country if people want to hunt they get together in groups of 100+ (with about as many dogs) and spend the day running round the countryside, occasionally catching a fox.

I've always wanted to see a real fox hunt. That's got to be cool!
 
I don't mind the odd shot. I have a longbow. I'm hopeless with it compared to those new fernangled modern thingies but I just don't feel enough like an elf when there's pulleys involved.
 
I don't mind the odd shot. I have a longbow. I'm hopeless with it compared to those new fernangled modern thingies but I just don't feel enough like an elf when there's pulleys involved.

Plus 1 for bowfishing.


Unfortunately, we used to do it to rid lakes of nuisance fish (read - not very good to eat)

So the eat what you kill didn't really apply there.

but yeah, something you can do with your son is awesome. I gave my kid an electric guitar for xmas - we have doing that and playing quake live together as well.