Oil Spill

Its leaking 200,000 gallons of oil per day,

Not sure about that figure. Regardless, if this was true the facts are there are over 6500 drilling platforms in the Gulf. And the US is in an oil crisis? How much do we pay for oil?

This is ONE platform.

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There have been several Exxon Valdez documentaries about how the "clean up" was total bullshit and how their waters and wildlife are still totally fucked there. There are also tons of reports of the locals never getting the money promised by the company due to the loss of their fishing industry.

Locals said that the news was filled with bull shit clips of volunteers scrubbing a single rock at a time with dawn and how they were cleaning up. While the rest of the beach was flooded with oil and consisted of tens of millions of rocks. Time to find out if they are going to pull the same bullshit here in the Gulf. I really feel for you guys in the north gulf and the wild life in the area.
 
This whole thing has been handled wrong.

When the rig exploded the initial reports said there was no spill and everything was contained. LIES! The blowout preventer valve failed.

Now, the reports are classifying it as what it is an "unprecedented" spill among the likes of the exxon valdez spill.

Not to mention, the initial quantity leak reported was way off - the latest report: "it is leaking five times faster than previously thought, spewing 5,000 barrels of oil a day into the Gulf."

Let's talk about the economic impact: "Billions of dollars generated by outdoor sports, commercial fishing and beach tourism along the Gulf of Mexico coast are at risk if crude oil leaking from a damaged well off the coast of Louisiana washes aground."

The physical impact on the wetlands, ecosystem, and marine life, for the 11 dead rig workers: IMMEASURABLE

BP is paying the cost of the cleanup, sounds good. Except that oil stocks are UP because of this explosion (less supply in the market). They'll just pass it along to us when they raise the gas prices next. So, in the end my hope is that the rig operator is FINED, but hey their insurance will cover it.

Who's to blame? Well let's talk about the politicians. "Drill Baby Drill" must have been on Obama's mind when, just weeks ago, he reversed his position out of nowhere to allow offshore drilling: Obama to Open Offshore Areas to Oil Drilling for First Time - NYTimes.com

It's obvious our thirst for oil is insatiable, but at least when we buy it from the Arabs we don't kill our wildlife and threaten a billion dollar fisheries industry.

Let's see what Washington's response going forward will be. Already there's talk of Katrina like implications for Obama: Political fallout for Obama amid oil spill disaster? - CNN.com

The white house says: "Speaking at the White House Friday, Obama emphasized that BP -- the company that owns the rig -- is legally responsible for paying the costs of the response to and cleanup of the spill"

Is BP going to pay for the Coast Guard and Military efforts and resources??? No, our tax dollars will.

Offshore drilling isn't worth it - just ask the voters in Louisiana whose beaches/shorelines are covered in oil.
 
Not sure about that figure. Regardless, if this was true the facts are there are over 6500 drilling platforms in the Gulf. And the US is in an oil crisis? How much do we pay for oil?

This is ONE platform.

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Have you been to the gulf before to see the oil rigs? I had no idea how many there were, and the first time when we went to Daulphin Island (Outside Mobile, AL) I was amazed how many rigs I could count. I think at least 30 were visible during the day. Go to Grand Isle, LA and see how many you can count from the west side of the beach. Last time I was there I counted 55 at dusk. The sheer number of oil rigs in the gulf is amazing.

Because of the number of oil rigs present, I wouldn't think that the price of oil should be effected due to the volume of oil lost, but it will. The more important issue is that once the oil gets into the wetlands, it will wreak havoc on the grass and trees, weakening the last line of defense for hurricanes on Louisiana. While New Orleans is a dump, hopefully it'll be around for at least another year.
 
Have you been to the gulf before to see the oil rigs? I had no idea how many there were, and the first time when we went to Daulphin Island (Outside Mobile, AL) I was amazed how many rigs I could count. I think at least 30 were visible during the day. Go to Grand Isle, LA and see how many you can count from the west side of the beach. Last time I was there I counted 55 at dusk. The sheer number of oil rigs in the gulf is amazing.

Because of the number of oil rigs present, I wouldn't think that the price of oil should be effected due to the volume of oil lost, but it will. The more important issue is that once the oil gets into the wetlands, it will wreak havoc on the grass and trees, weakening the last line of defense for hurricanes on Louisiana. While New Orleans is a dump, hopefully it'll be around for at least another year.

Well VGeek, this is the area I live in. We do have a ton of oil rigs in the gulf. They are actually pretty awesome because they create great fishing grounds around them.

Alot of what you saw werent actually oil rigs. A lot of those rigs near shore are for transportation and other stuff. I thought they all drilled, too. But, they dont. Apparently there is a pipeline or something that runs through the gulf and some of the platforms maintain the pipeline.

I am all for drilling. But, BP should have been prepared to stop an oil spill in the case of an emergency. They were caught off guard and shouldnt have been. That is the tragedy.

Even though the area I live in is about to change for years, I am still for drilling. The world economy, even the liberal environmentalists economy, are driven by oil. Until that is different, we should produce as much as we can instead of importing it.

The oil companies do need emergency plans in place to stop this from happening again.
 
There are also tons of reports of the locals never getting the money promised by the company due to the loss of their fishing industry.

They battled in court for longer than some of the people on here have been alive. 1,000s of the effected workers had died by the time the suit reached the Supreme Court a year or two ago.
 
Eco terrorists cutting off their nose to spite their face? Sounds like a stretch to me, but you can't put anything past extremists.

Finding article now, but there was an eco-terror group that bombed an oil tanker near Italy, so this is nowhere out of the realm of reality
 
I love how all the IGNORANT LIBERALS are coming out to play.

Oh, how evil BP and drilling are.

Right...

FACT: Drilling in the gulf has been going on for a looonnnnng time. And even very liberal politicians (i.e King Obama) were never opposed to it so I have no clue what people mean when they try to mock Sarah Palin for saying drill baby drill. The gulf is not a controversial spot.

Moreover, if you think that we should stop drilling in the gulf (i.e pay $14 per gallon and be 100% dependent on those who don't like us for our oil) then your views are EXTREMELY liberal and out of touch with the mainstream. In other words, no more drilling in the gulf has about the same chance as coming to pass as making abortion illegal.
 
From my understanding this oil rig is new and was not actually producing much oil yet. So, how and why should this raise oil prices? It's also just one little rig, there's a lot out there...prices shouldn't jump much or any.
 
Turbo: That is terrible! I have never seen a beach like that.

Rocla: Yes, it was an exploratory drill. It shouldnt have an impact on gas prices, other than fear

jryan: Yes
 
and be 100% dependent on those who don't like us for our oil

Not exactly. 75% of US production comes from outside the gulf (Alaska et al.). For imports, Canada is the top source and Mexico is third.


From my understanding this oil rig is new and was not actually producing much oil yet. So, how and why should this raise oil prices? It's also just one little rig, there's a lot out there...prices shouldn't jump much or any.

Even the OPEC president admits that speculation can drive prices.

OPEC President Vows to Reduce Oil-Price Speculation, Volatility - Bloomberg.com
 
Yeah this majorly sucks. This is just one more reason why we need to stop being so dependent on oil and start looking towards alternate forms of energy.
 
i heard they could've avoided all of this by using some more secure drill device that would've cost 400k more and would've allowed you to close the hole in the floor of the sea remotely in the case of a leak. such devices are required in most parts of the world by law but has been blocked in the US by oil lobbyists.