Do You Want To Make 71K As An "Online Marketing Manager"?

hellblazer

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This has got to be a joke. Has anyone else seen this? And who the fuck would want to make 70K as an "SEO manager"?

Everything about this is just ridiculous. Has this been around for awhile and I've just never noticed it before?
 


Every backlink peddler in the B/S/T section except dchuk and RedVirus are probably clicking on that link like theres no tomorrow.
 
This has got to be a joke. Has anyone else seen this? And who the fuck would want to make 70K as an "SEO manager"?

Everything about this is just ridiculous. Has this been around for awhile and I've just never noticed it before?

Shh! I convert that shit like its berries.
 
How's it a joke? Tons of companies are hiring in-house SEOs these days, especially in the SF area.

I suppose I find it so ridiculous because:

a) You can make so much more using SEO/PPC tactics for your own projects.
b) I wouldn't trust that place to teach me shit that I couldn't find online for free.

The fact that they are graduating people who never realize the first point makes me wonder what exactly it is that they're teaching.
 
I suppose I find it so ridiculous because:

a) You can make so much more using SEO/PPC tactics for your own projects.
b) I wouldn't trust that place to teach me shit that I couldn't find online for free.

The fact that they are graduating people who never realize the first point makes me wonder what exactly it is that they're teaching.

If you think about it...

You can pretty much find anything online for free and be self taught. If everyone can be self motivated and self educated, then school wouldn't exist.
 
slightly confused.
is it funny because 70k is low or high for an seo manager?

I mean bosses don't know how much work is required of seo. You could just go in every day spend an hour on thier projects or automate it with a tool, take your 70k/year and spend the rest of the day working on your own projects making bank with a free office, company benefits and a retirement plan. It all sounds good to me.
 
slightly confused.
is it funny because 70k is low or high for an seo manager?

I mean bosses don't know how much work is required of seo. You could just go in every day spend an hour on thier projects or automate it with a tool, take your 70k/year and spend the rest of the day working on your own projects making bank with a free office, company benefits and a retirement plan. It all sounds good to me.

Low, but that's actually a great idea. If they really don't look over your shoulder too much, that would be a pretty sweet deal.
 
These "certificate programs" are a big moneymaker for colleges, especially in San Francisco where you get a certain percentage of wealthy foreigners who want an excuse to study and party in SF. I think it makes the Visa easier too.

I've taken marketing classes at SF State extension where half the people were working folks trying to learn something applied, and half were foreign students here for 6 months to take a bunch of marketing classes and get a "certificate". Never quite understood it.

You could certainly do worse than USF. But yes, they are applying old principles of education to something which you can teach yourself and either way need to learn by doing.

Kind of like getting an MBA and then expecting to become a successful entrepreneur. Sure they will teach you some valuable things, but most of it you are going to learn the hard way, education or not.
 
I mean bosses don't know how much work is required of seo. You could just go in every day spend an hour on thier projects or automate it with a tool, take your 70k/year and spend the rest of the day working on your own projects making bank with a free office, company benefits and a retirement plan. It all sounds good to me.

I got offered a job a couple of years ago as the "VP of Internet Marketing" or some weird title like that for an advertising firm. I was hesitant to take any kind of job since I really just like working on my own stuff but things were looking a little rocky at the time so stability sounded really good. Plus, the guy seemed savvy enough to know that I was savvy enough to warrant a decent salary and I was kind of thinking of doing what you talked about at least a little. I mean, not going overboard or anything but definitely taking a little advantage here and there.

Everything was going great until time to talk about that salary and he offered me $60k/yr + stock options. I politely declined. I've watched the stock since then and yeah, I made the right decision.
 
You think the people teaching those courses have any real clue what they are talking about?
I've always wondered that!
They even have minors for it at some large universities. I also can't help but wonder if I'd make a good professor.
 
I've always wondered that!
They even have minors for it at some large universities. I also can't help but wonder if I'd make a good professor.

absolutely not.

you think those people enrolled want to hear the knowledge bombs you'd drop? rather- you think they'd understand ANYTHING?

nope

gems like this get taught in classes like that

"Use title tags, use H1/H2/H3/etc, use doctypes, HEY MAKING THE WHOLE SITE IN FLASH IS BAD! HEY! Having 5 identical copies of your entire website on 5 domains isn't going to work well"

and you know what? many employers do the dumbest shit ever.

IE asking for sensitive client data on sign up w/ no SSL cert. Using text as images for huge portions of the homepage. etc

you make one comment like "um, let's put some SSL up in dis biyatch" and then do it and show the delta in signup rate and you're suddenly a god.

Non internet companies know *ZERO* about 'the world wide web"


it's unreal