WTF do i have to do to convert 4k daily uv to some money?!

Gnet

Gnet

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www.financemoz.com
I have this finance site right here:

Finance & Business News | FinanceMoz.com

Traffic out the ass...

tried almost every aff program out there
from cj to nvb to ppj....

i even tried amazon ffs...

only a few conversions here and there

adsense keeps on getting me steady cash

but conversions are so fucking hard

what am i doing wrong here people???


i need some help either choosing the right offers or something..
 


From a design standpoint, your design doesn't really have that authoritative, "trusting" look about it. When it comes to conversions, I think trust is important.

If I'm looking for money advice, I want the place to look like it's affiliated with some Wall Street institution, well put together. That all black isn't welcoming and the overall layout is confusing.

Check your bounce rate.
 
How are you getting 4k UV's daily with an autoblog like that that has hardly any real content on it?

Edit: ahh okay nevermind, I see, you're posting HUNDREDS of articles a day, so you must be hitting a ton of longtail keywords. PM'd you, regardless.
 
Are you in the 3 digit range per day with adsense? I would assume so with 4,000 uniques per day.
 
HardSale said:
From a design standpoint, your design doesn't really have that authoritative, "trusting" look about it. When it comes to conversions, I think trust is important.

If I'm looking for money advice, I want the place to look like it's affiliated with some Wall Street institution, well put together. That all black isn't welcoming and the overall layout is confusing.

Check your bounce rate.
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I agree with this, I bet your bounce rate is very high.
 
Just noticed you're pushing my forex offer on there. Here's what I would do mate:

1. Get RID of the adsense, asap (even if only for now for this test). You have wayyyyyy too many adzones and no focus on monetizing one or two offers properly. Mash up pages like this always fail (mixing all kinds of ads/content in a broad niche).

2. Yes, much lighter background - Reverse it so it's dark text on a light bg instead, this looks too dark and dirty for a money/finance site, looks almost blackhatish. It's hard to take in chunks of text with black bg/white text, then your eye goes fuckery when you visit a site from yours that is the opposite...

3. Use the banners that we provide so the creative has some continuity.

4. Actually write a bit of content about the software, via softsell I'm sure a lil' pre-sell will do you wonders.

5. 'Error establishing a database connection' < Timing lol! Get it back up

6. Back - If you're pushing a forex offer, make sure you have at least a video or article beside the offer that is forex robot related not just general money.

Not sure what you're making from adsense but if you tried a focused campaign on the bot and did proper pre-sell you should be making bank mate. I have affiliates with much less UV's and lil' bridge page sites that are hitting 1:25-1:40 and it pays out $52 + $30 on the back... Reach out directly if you want more focused help with the fx niche/best ways to push.
 
Okay to answer everyone in one post now lol


the black theme gets me alotta clicks on adsense - people click anything on a black template!

adsense - im in the 2 digit zone/day lol

content - yep all automated dont wanna change that


db errors - when the server gets over 500 visitors at the same time the db goes nuts...
 
HardSale said:
From a design standpoint, your design doesn't really have that authoritative, "trusting" look about it. When it comes to conversions, I think trust is important.

If I'm looking for money advice, I want the place to look like it's affiliated with some Wall Street institution, well put together. That all black isn't welcoming and the overall layout is confusing.

Check your bounce rate.
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Elaborating on this,

When you are dealing with a business person, they think in black and white because they are use to reading paper all day. That's any finance niche. So, you need a white background with black text. It makes them feel secure.

Next, you need to look into your color scheme. Green doesn't mean money. It means distrust, so don't use it.

Let's take a look at what McDonalds and every other fast-food restaurant does to get people to eat more: they have a ton of red/orange. That color stimulates you to be hungry, buy more, etc.
 
Gnet said:
so what kinda color scheme should i go with?
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Go to some big-name financial blogs and websites and copy their color scheme.

Forbes.com - Business News, Financial News, Stock Market Analysis, Technology & Global Headline News - White + Blue with black text.
Business, financial, personal finance news - CNNMoney.com - White + Blue with black text.
Personal Finance and Investing - MSN Money - White + Blue with black text.

Are you picking up on the pattern yet?

The only financial site I've ever seen with a black background is Bloomberg, and I avoid going there BECAUSE of their color scheme.
 
Okay, since you guys are so passionate about me changing my theme/colors.

I tell ya what..

Let's do a little experiment!

After today's stats, I'll change the theme to a lighter more trust worthy color scheme, and then ill come back with :

2 days of adsense stats with the black theme
2 days of adsense stats with the new trust worthy theme

along that the cb stats

how does that sound?
 
I don't think you will make a lot with 4K uniques. Think about it this way. You're a publisher. You are concerned with monetizing your inventory. Your gauge is eCPM. Your objective is to maximize your eCPM. You can do it in any way you want obviously: adsense, banners, CPA, popups, etc. etc. etc. But at the end of the day you compare all of them against each on eCPM.

Now...

Let's think realistically what kind of eCPM you can expect. If your site was premium inventory (and it's not) - you'd get maybe $10CPM per ad unit. Let's say, you'd have 3 of those on the page and we're being very optimistic here. That's $30CPM. You have only 4K uniques. That's $120/day MAX. Assuming the very bes scenario.

Much more likely you'll be making significantly less than $100 a day.

In my opinion, your problem is not how you monetize but the lack of volume.

By the way, how much are you making now daily?
 
Edu rocks....dude if i make 50$/day id be a happy camper...

im making hardly 10$/day through adsense

nothing through affiliates yet - been 1 day since i added Clickbank products - HIGHLY RELEVANT.
 
O OK, I thought you were going for much more. Then all of the advice the guys gave above applies. Just test out all of their suggestions, including changes to the look of the site. You can also try some inText ads like Kontera. You can also try Adbrite "Full Page Ads". Do popups, etc. Your page looks so low quality that don't worry about repeat visitors - you won't have any anyway :) So bombard them with as much ads as u can.

Also I think that if you keep us updated on how the optimizations go, this would make a wonderful thread for all publishers.
 
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