Affirmative Action Bake Sale
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Hilarious. I love the way people got so touchy about it. They obviously touched a nerve.
What's funniest is the makeup of the Democrats who got so butthurt about it.
2011-2012 Executive Board
The woman demanding an apology was white, and the entire committee is white apart from one token Asian. Perhaps they should sort their own house out before trying to tell others what to do.
What's funniest is the makeup of the Democrats who got so butthurt about it.
2011-2012 Executive Board
The woman demanding an apology was white, and the entire committee is white apart from one token Asian. Perhaps they should sort their own house out before trying to tell others what to do.
Why don't you?
First off, according a study in the Psychological Bulletin, black teens have higher self-esteem than white teens.
Black teens score high in self-esteem | UK news | The Observer
Even if we forget about that, what gives you the idea that a "big cause" of self esteem problems among black children is being continually told they aren't good enough to do something on their own? What evidence is there for that happening to such a degree that it would even be one of the top 10 factors affecting self esteem?
I wonder what percent of people under 18 would even have an idea what affirmative action is?
And why are you focusing on "black kids", when according to your logic the democrats would also be trying to poison the minds of the white female kids?
Apparently moxie actually reading the facts I posted is a challenge. 15% of whites live in poverty 27% blacks, can you do the math?? Thanks for proving my point though brother!!
Black teens score high in self-esteem | UK news | The Observer
This is a 10 year old article, from a UK rag so it must be true, that's your best proof LOL !!!
This is a 10 year old article, from a UK rag so it must be true, that's your best proof LOL !!!
Gee the truth seems to have caused the sound of crickets from him.
Poor, black teen girls who think their boyfriends want a baby are 12 times more likely to wish they were pregnant compared with similar teens who expressed no desire to become pregnant, according to new research. Girls in the study who wanted to become pregnant were almost four times as likely to have a partner who was at least five years older than themselves. They were also twice as likely to report feelings of low self-esteem and low family support, and twice as likely to feel that their partner would disapprove of using condoms
Poor, black teen girls who think their boyfriends want a baby are 12 times more likely to wish they were pregnant compared with similar teens who expressed no desire to become pregnant, according to new research. Girls in the study who wanted to become pregnant were almost four times as likely to have a partner who was at least five years older than themselves. They were also twice as likely to report feelings of low self-esteem and low family support, and twice as likely to feel that their partner would disapprove of using condoms
Whole story on above post
Boyfriend pressure makes black teen girls more likely to want pregnancy | ScienceBlog.com
Boyfriend pressure makes black teen girls more likely to want pregnancy | ScienceBlog.com
Jesus christ, it seems some people still haven't worked out which uk newspapers are the rags, and which aren't, after god knows how many times this has been brought up.
Handy guide, in order from biggest crap to most trustworthy:
Daily Star
Daily Mail
The Sun (it's a close one between the Mail)
More serious and trustworthy ones, again in order:
Daily Telegraph
The Times
The Guardian/Observer (Observer is the Sunday edition)
The Independent
How about their political bias? Could you put them in sequence from most right-leaning-capitalistic to most left-leaning-socialistic?
Hahaha, he gave you the name of a well known best selling book. Within seconds you could have gained access to tons of articles about the book and probably found the relevant studies on your own if you really were that interested. It was obvious that you didn't even at least take a moment to glance at the wikipedia entry for the book.
The time you've spent angrily begging for more detailed sources, would indicate that you want it rather bad. Yet at the same time you put zero effort into researching it yourself, and are now telling us that you wouldn't share a link if you had it for some strange reason. :eek7:
The Outliers book is about more than academics and going by that sentence above it didn't look like you were specifically referring to academic self-esteem or academic handouts.
Whenever anyone else refers to self-esteem, they are always referring to people's overall lives, and not about how confident someone is about their cooking skills or how high they can jump.
Thanks for your sharing your personal experiences, but having excuses made or not being encouraged isn't exactly the same as being told they can't make it in the world without handouts. The existence of affirmative action is not a requirement for excuse making or for a lack of encouragement.
I hope you weren't also tutoring kids in reading, because nowhere have I written those things.
Never? Yet blacks are so frequently to the point it is a big cause for low self-esteem? Holy polar opposites Batman!
You were the one trying to show a big link between affirmative action and self-esteem. Saying that your argument doesn't apply to the group that benefits most from it, only weakens that argument.
Part of affirmative action for women at colleges has to do with trying to get more of them into male dominated fields. And the proponents of affirmative action want there to be more women graduates than men, because they believe male graduates are more likely to get hired.
You're quoting the guy who sent me another 3 interesting private messages today, one of which only contained the dictionary definition to the word "moxie", but the text was in alternating black and white colors lol.
Ok, the first three, it's a bit difficult to say where they stand - The Star is such a rag that the only times I've read it has been in Chinese takeaways, the Sun is basically tits, football, and pedohunting, and if the Daily Mail was a person, it'd look like this:
For the others:
Most left leaning is The Guardian (although it's not too heavily left), then the Independent's pretty neutral (hence their name and slogan) The Times is slightly right wing, The Telegraph's more right wing.
Isn't the obvious solution for someone on the low end of the "pay" scale to advertise their own bake sale, show up at opening time with $200, buy everything, mark it up 100%, and then sell it again?
Geez - problem solved. Racist Bakesale arbitrage.
Geez - problem solved. Racist Bakesale arbitrage.
It's easy to search on google for something like "outliers university of michigan." Also, the book is on books.google.com, which allows searching within the book, and the same can be done on amazon.
Again, it would be a message that also applies to white females. Children are bombarded with messages from every direction, but only few things qualify as a "big reason" for causing low self-esteem.
LOL, I thought you wanted to keeps things on the topic of academics? I'm not a democrat or arguing for affirmative action, but this is a hilariously ridiculous example of a guilt by association ad hominem attack.
A quick check shows that the majority of democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act and that being from the southern states was the biggest indicator in how congressmen voted, not political party.
Most southern democrats voted against it, but so did all the southern republicans. Northern democrats voted for it at a higher percent than northern republicans.
Source? :1orglaugh:
You are the new face of hyperbolic illogical immaturity.
I'm glad to see I got some high-quality answers out of asking the questions I did. I'll be sure to do this again.
You've capitalized the beginning letters in affirmative action more than once now, which would be more of a support than anything I've typed in here.
There's a pic for you of the guy who coined the phrase, since you're so into precise sources and such. He was referring to things at the institutional level that would negatively apply to everyone of a race.
In the case of college admissions, affirmative action only negatively affects white males on the borderline of getting accepted. White females are actually the biggest group who apply to college, and they are benefiting from it.
Poor whites or white males applying to college who are on the borderline, most of whom who are probably not poor?
So people who get accepted into college because of affirmative action are more likely to end up on welfare than people who don't get accepted or who don't even apply to college in the first place? Source?
You didn't say discrimination or sexism, but instead brought up the definition of institutional racism, and you were the first one to get butthurt in here over technical details, so I'm throwing that attitude right back at you.
AA affects everyone who is around the borderline for getting accepted, which includes white females, who... holy shit... benefit the most! So it's retarded to just focus in on racism against whites, when half of that race is getting the most out of it.
The bake sale people actually had the lowest price for females, yet you only want to focus on black people and spew garbage about entire generations of them living on handouts and dunking basketballs and durr hurrrr durrrrrrr.
The reverse side of the type of arguments you make would be : Why are we making excuses for these white males with subpar grades? Why are we so focused on blaming "the man" for their inability to get into college? They tend to have higher family incomes and go to better schools, so why don't they take personal responsibility and improve their chances of getting in?
Huh?
Hey Moxie over 1/2 of all blacks that get into college because of aa drop out by the second year how fair is that to the students that would have graduated if not for aa bro??