America is the supreme military force in the world? Not with you fuckin idiots around



This post may have really stirred the pot if you posted it on the FoxNews.com forums instead of WF.

Considering your target audience, I have to give it a 1/10. It would be a 0/10 except it will probably piss off Dresden and Hellblazer.

I don't necessarily disagree because I believe the U.S. will lose the coming nuclear attack from China and Russia due to the communist agents who have infiltrated and are busy sabotaging the U.S. military.

But to say the Iraq War caused the 2008 subprime meltdown is just retarded. It doesn't even make sense. It's the type of shit Democrat Underground and Daily Kos members say to each other.
 
have drones, top of the line aircraft carriers, shitloads of jets, tanks and many other things that France, Germany and England didn't even discover yet.
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"Tanks in World War I were developed separately and simultaneously by Great Britain and France as a means to break the deadlock of trench warfare on the Western Front."

Just killing it, pun intended
 
..and in charge. Really, Americans are too stupid to run a war effectively and have lost the majority of armed conflicts they involved themselves in during the last 50 years (unlike we Brits and Brit-lovers):

1. Somalia: - failure

2. Vietnam - failure


3. Korea - stalemate


4. Iraq + Afghanistan - the military-industrial complex drained the economy in a perpetual to the point where it indirectly caused an economic collapse.


5. Iran - Operation Eagle Claw - owned by ragheads - massive failure that resulted in 8 American deaths.


America reminds me of the fat classroom bully who constantly would talk shit, but when he actually got off his obese ass to do something, he tripped on his shoelaces and knocked his own dumb head out. 'Murica!
This is fucking stupid. There's a difference between all out war and what we've been doing. If we were to use all the power we have, we could turn any one of those countries to glass. But that's not the goal.

Modern American warfare is more responsible than most military engagements have been in the past - meaning we try to destroy a targeted enemy with minimal civilian damage.

If it was acceptable for us to simply firebomb the crap out of the cities - reduce them to rubble - we could win quite easily. We could kill almost every single person in them without huge losses.
The only way we "lose" is when we're fighting guerilla armies and attempting to limit civilian casualties/leave the country something left to build from when the war is over. If we were in defensive wars it would be acceptable to "do like Britain" did in WW2, we'd probably barely see a casualty.

I'll name five:

China
Britain
India
France
Russia
(include any country with a decent infrastructure, the ability to mobilize millions of armed and trained soldiers, as well as a healthy stock of long range nuclear missiles).
There is not a single country on that list that could beat us militarily, and only one that could sink us economically.
Most (Britain, India, France) use largely our military technology - which means they are unable to repair the machines or perform maintenence on them without US supplied parts.
Beyond that we typically do not sell "bleeding edge" tech to damn near anyone. We only sell things we can beat.
The ones who aren't using US suppleid tech(Russia/China) are technologically quite far behind outside of a few very specific technologies. China is still working on it's first air craft carrier.

It would simply be too economically draining and socially damaging to sustain a war with them. Beat your drums all you want, but the simple fact is that we live in a GLOBAL community and are hopelessly intertwined.
Economically? Only China would matter, arguably Russia(because Gas). Places like Britain and France are a blip on the radar.

Anyone who knows me knows I'm not exactly the "gung-ho USA military" type...but your arguments suck.
 
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Desert storm?
Invasion of Iraq (Not the police action)
Operation Just Cause?
Korea?


Then finally, I'm curious, what was the intention of the US in Vietnam?

After you answer that question, tell me how we failed that mission as of Janurary 28th 1973 we failed that mission.
 
Interesting factoid: This guys dad...

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...was Admiral George Morrison - Commander of the US Naval forces that faked the attack off the coast of Vietnam which led to the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution and the Vietnam War.

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Then finally, I'm curious, what was the intention of the US in Vietnam?

After you answer that question, tell me how we failed that mission as of Janurary 28th 1973 we failed that mission.

Because Vietnam is currently a Socialist Republic, and Saigon is now called Ho Chi Minh?
 
If we were in defensive wars it would be acceptable to "do like Britain" did in WW2 and simply firebomb cities causing mass civilian casualties, we'd probably barely see a casualty.

To be fair, most of the large firebombing raids were a joint allied effort in which the US were involved in one way or another. Firebombing Hamburg + Dresden was mainly a british effort but the US were involved as well. I think Tokyo was entirely US forces but i may be wrong.

100k dead at Hiroshima and 50k at Nagasaki brings the US right up there when it comes to killing civilians, it's certainly not just a British thing... everyone was doing it in ww2. The US and the Brits simply retaliated in a far more aggressive fashion.

In recent times, i think the civilian death rate for Iraq alone is about 120k, Afghanistan is a lot less. But having a more high tech army certainly hasnt stopped civilians being killed.... not yet anyways.
 
Then finally, I'm curious, what was the intention of the US in Vietnam?

After you answer that question, tell me how we failed that mission as of Janurary 28th 1973 we failed that mission.

Their stated intentions made it clear that they wanted to create conditions under which South Vietnam wouldn't be "communist" into the foreseeable future, not just into 1973.
 
This guy will tell you all you need to know about bombing the shit out of a country. Especially Japan and Vietnam:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkQk50qtTwo]The Fog of War: Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S. McNamara - YouTube[/ame]