"...and this is what a ClickBank Top 10 Internet Marketer looks like."
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Why does everyone that makes money in this industry immediately take on a second career as a business educator.
I don't know about yall, but I'm too busy keeping my mouth shut, scaling, and stacking to teach you to do what I'm doing. Hell I might even tell you some bullshit just to throw you off my scent, lord knows I don't need the competitors.
I don't know about yall, but I'm too busy keeping my mouth shut, scaling, and stacking to teach you to do what I'm doing. Hell I might even tell you some bullshit just to throw you off my scent, lord knows I don't need the competitors.
you guys realize that the guru biz is big biz right? and its mostly a circle jerk with each guru mailing another guru's new product to their list...
they make money
the videos are made like this on purpose to give the feeling that everyone can do this...
they make money
the videos are made like this on purpose to give the feeling that everyone can do this...
Stop outing bro. We don't want the guru market to become saturated with everyone and their momma filming a vid or making an ebook.
I'm curious, define "big biz". What's a launch like that going to net him? I'm thinking:
1000 signups * $39 = $39k
10% refunds, so -$4k = $35k
Say 50% for commissions to others, etc... so $17.5k.
About right? Then there's the upsells and stuff, but I doubt there as high as most claim. People who buy stupid $39 guru classes generally have the attention spans of squirrels.
na thats not big biz... i guess your math is correct... only 1k people want to make money extra money out of 300 million population in america... not even going to throw in every other english speaking country
edit: unless you mean that is a day... until of course the next repackaged product you can sell to them
So in other words, you have no fucken idea. Neither do I.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd say 1k signups/day is very unrealistic. Say a two month campaigns, that's 60k signups = $2.34 million. For some reason, I highly doubt it. Maybe if you got onto Opera or something you could do it, but otherwise can't see it.
Anyone actually know though? Anyone ever done a launch like this? It's not something I'd ever do, but I'm still curious what type of $$$ these things generate.
Hmmm, depends on how you are getting traffic.
1k sign-ups at a 5% CR. = 20k uniques per day.
The $2.34m wouldn't be profit though. You'd probs spend 6 figs if not more on traffic.
Initially, it looks like his system was set up around a paid membership @ $99/m-with weekly webinars, forum etc. where he covered seo to PPC. And I can only asssume that his new video/members($37)offer area is just a compilation of those videos along with a few OTO upsells.
Only speculating here, but I would guess that the results he shows could be primarily coming from the initial launches of his own CB products and not from any other sources.
It is not like the guy is showing you CJ/CPA/SAS/Amazon stats, all you get are the CB sales. So, if the stats are legit, it probably is a good example of what initial launches of these sorts can generate-
though the marketer is trying to sell you on the idea that he is making that money with other products.
Only speculating here, but I would guess that the results he shows could be primarily coming from the initial launches of his own CB products and not from any other sources.
It is not like the guy is showing you CJ/CPA/SAS/Amazon stats, all you get are the CB sales. So, if the stats are legit, it probably is a good example of what initial launches of these sorts can generate-
though the marketer is trying to sell you on the idea that he is making that money with other products.
I've been monitoring the WaFo scene for a few months now while pushing the big ticket ($2k+) launches via SEO/PPC, it's really quite fascinating in it's scope and scale.
Every single day of the week (minus Sunday, they rarely push hard on Sunday's for whatever reason), there is a $7 product launch that gets mailed around, typically with two OTO's of at least $27 and $47 behind the pay wall. Some of them are dime sales (price goes up with every purchase) so you can monitor volume that way, other's I get data on because of people (big ticket launchers) asking me to push the secondary market surge on (they ask all their bigger SEO affiliates, I'm nothing special) their smaller affiliates in a "they scratched my back, I'll scratch theirs circlejerk".
I never fuck around with the $7 launches + upsell game (lettuce be cereal, it's a lot of work to build out a product, then two more, landers and squeeze pages for it all, put it behind a membership paywall, etc...it's not too much work if it's your bread and butter but it's a lot more work than say outranking Tim Ferris for some thousand dollar commission app building frauduct with a couple hours of setup for an army of SEO tools and VAs) but I'm confident in saying that six days per week, $10k-$50k (and definitely bigger ones when they all team up) launches are going down over there.
Hate the players, hate the game, but the fact of the matter is no small few of those "guru" guys bank harder than 99.9% of WF STS posters. And there's no lack of players in the game that post and lurk here that could confirm what I'm saying, if they felt like publicly outing themselves. Not that I expect you to.
inb4 barry rages...
Every single day of the week (minus Sunday, they rarely push hard on Sunday's for whatever reason), there is a $7 product launch that gets mailed around, typically with two OTO's of at least $27 and $47 behind the pay wall. Some of them are dime sales (price goes up with every purchase) so you can monitor volume that way, other's I get data on because of people (big ticket launchers) asking me to push the secondary market surge on (they ask all their bigger SEO affiliates, I'm nothing special) their smaller affiliates in a "they scratched my back, I'll scratch theirs circlejerk".
I never fuck around with the $7 launches + upsell game (lettuce be cereal, it's a lot of work to build out a product, then two more, landers and squeeze pages for it all, put it behind a membership paywall, etc...it's not too much work if it's your bread and butter but it's a lot more work than say outranking Tim Ferris for some thousand dollar commission app building frauduct with a couple hours of setup for an army of SEO tools and VAs) but I'm confident in saying that six days per week, $10k-$50k (and definitely bigger ones when they all team up) launches are going down over there.
Hate the players, hate the game, but the fact of the matter is no small few of those "guru" guys bank harder than 99.9% of WF STS posters. And there's no lack of players in the game that post and lurk here that could confirm what I'm saying, if they felt like publicly outing themselves. Not that I expect you to.
inb4 barry rages...
$10 - $50k/day, or per-launch? If per-launch, I'm guessing I was about spot on with the first prediction? He's looking to gross about $40k, say 10% refunds, 50% for JVs and commissions, leaving himself with around $17.5k pre-tax. Is that about right? Or am I off base?
Per launch, and there's a diff launch every single day (minus Sunday) that somehow (lol syndicate lol) get's preferred treatment for that day and everybody is in on it.
There is a guy promoting over there and through a couple of other sources that claims to have added quite a few opt-ins, here is his latest emaill:
--**These are supposedly early birds for the Official Launch**--
His FB account for this campaign is pretty active, people commenting and discussing his presell videos like crazy.
he hasn't even put out the product/site yet, but the initial memberships look like they could be staggering and we can only guess that it won't be cheap, not on what he is supposedly going to fully reveal in this "Academy" of his.
He has already got people(FB account comments-mostly newbs) who are spending (and losing) hundreds of dollars, just testing the techniques that he has already shown. :ugone2far:
--**These are supposedly early birds for the Official Launch**--
I am not going to out the IM, but I have been following along with his process, as it is gotten quite big.
His FB account for this campaign is pretty active, people commenting and discussing his presell videos like crazy.
he hasn't even put out the product/site yet, but the initial memberships look like they could be staggering and we can only guess that it won't be cheap, not on what he is supposedly going to fully reveal in this "Academy" of his.
He has already got people(FB account comments-mostly newbs) who are spending (and losing) hundreds of dollars, just testing the techniques that he has already shown. :ugone2far:
