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[dchuk]

lol bro you need some mushrooms to get your thinking straight. Do you really believe the shit you say?

PM grindstone.

well, considering the 3 dudes in that picture are responsible for over 50 million deaths, I absolutely believe what I say. It's fucking disrespectful to lump any of our presidents in with those monsters and you're lying to yourself if you truly believe ANY of our presidents could ever be considered similar to those dudes.

 

[Andrey]

well, considering the 3 dudes in that picture are responsible for over 50 million deaths, I absolutely believe what I say. It's fucking disrespectful to lump any of our presidents in with those monsters and you're lying to yourself if you truly believe ANY of our presidents could ever be considered similar to those dudes.

Well he still has time, doesn't he? He did pass NDAA bill.

I am sure he is responsible for thousands dead in the Middle East, by supporting Al Qaeda in Libya. Does he have to break into 6-digit deaths for you to consider him on the same level?

How many did they kill in Iraq? I believe it was over 1 mil. So maybe Bush can qualify. Not to mention all the people that are still dying from radiation from depleted uranium there.

Rather than making fun of conspiracy theorists, why not inquire why are there so many people who do not believe the official line any more? Do you really think all these "conspiracy theorists" are just retarded and CNN is the real source of truth?

 

[dmnEPC]

I am respectful and love my family and have shot a gun once in my life. You can learn respect and love just as easily from playing organized sports as a child.

Again, there is no productive use for guns in society. They are only weapons.

Why can't you learn it doing both? There is no productive use for surf boards should we make those illegal. Just because you were brought up to fear guns,(or have experienced a traumatic event) does not mean they are of no use to society. There are billions of dollars that flow through the economy from legal shooting activities.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

Rather than making fun of conspiracy theorists, why not inquire why are there so many people who do not believe the official line any more? Do you really think all these "conspiracy theorists" are just retarded and CNN is the real source of truth?

I always laugh when people criticize "conspiracy theories" despite the fact that the government sends people to prison every single day for being a part of a criminal conspiracy.

But conspiracies don't exist...

 

[Al_hk]

Guns in Europe.

In Europe, we have guns.

Don't laugh but in some European countries, France included, this is stated in national constitution.

So, we have hand guns for shooting clubs, and we have hunting rifle for wild game.

Military grade weapons are FORBIDDEN! which is common sense during peace!

We can have both, but yes the regulation is strict.

And I think, this is better.

If any of you, would have been working as a policeman, or as a welfare employee , you would understand that giving guns to the whole population without proper checking, is not reasonable.

How many Americans take illegal drugs?
How many Americans take psycho drugs, for mental sickness?
How many Americans abuse of alcohol?
etc etc...

Today's America, is not 18th century's America or 19th century's America, your country has changed, as Europe did.
Our people turn more easily violence than previous generations.

Before, there were social values, and social codes, but now, too many of us only run after money, whatever it may take, whatever law it may breach, to satisfy urgent desires, under heavy mass medias stimulus.

America in 50's, 60's, was quite peaceful, there was violence and crime, but not that much, as today.

All in all, you absolutely forget, there is a whole industry making millions $$$ with gun sales.
These big corporations do not care about you and the 20 lost kids, they only care about their benefits.

 

[Big Mike75]

yeah, let's ban guns, but let police and the state have them. sounds like a good idea, except if you consider history..

Wow...from Stalin, to Mao, to Hitler, To Obama???

Huge leap would be an understatement...i guess you voted for Romney...lol

 

[dchuk]

I always laugh when people criticize "conspiracy theories" despite the fact that the government sends people to prison every single day for being a part of a criminal conspiracy.

But conspiracies don't exist...

I believe some conspiracy theories. I think there's more to JFK's assassination than what we've been told, and I think 9/11 has some inconsistencies. I don't, however, attribute every occurrence under the sun to a massive government coverup.

Also, conspiracy != conspiracy theory. A conspiracy is two or more people planning a crime in the future. A conspiracy theory is that the official story regarding an event is a coverup for an alternative reality.

 

[dchuk]

Why can't you learn it doing both? There is no productive use for surf boards should we make those illegal. Just because you were brought up to fear guns,(or have experienced a traumatic event) does not mean they are of no use to society. There are billions of dollars that flow through the economy from legal shooting activities.

a man didn't beat 26 people to death with a fuckin surfboard last Friday

 

[sixthcutuan]

a man didn't beat 26 people to death with a fuckin surfboard last Friday

I wouldn't bother. This forum is full of crazies.

 

[BigWill]

wickedfire is hilarious, someone just directly implied obama is going to be a dictator

the moment he tries that, 1M people will stampede the white house, all invited thru a FB event 30 minutes earlier

Eh, maybe not. There will be large propaganda campaigns to sway the mass population. Obviously they will say its something completely different.

 

[BigWill]

And everyone in nebraska has a gun and we rarely have shootings. Minus the blacks in Omaha

The problem is the person doing the shooting, not the guns. Who really cares if people have guns or not if they are good people.

If there was no guns these crazies would simply use something else. Its just an easy route to take.

 

[-joe-]

there is no good use for a gun (in the sense of utility), the only use for them is to stop bad things from happening.

What about hunting?

Same over here in Scotland (hell the north is covered in Stags) yet we still have laws to cope with this. We also don't have guns completely banned. For instance some of my friends have shotgun licenses and a few shotguns at home, back when I was at high-school we used to regularly shoot semi-automatic and automatic rifles, machine guns, smoke grenades etc. You are full able to take a trip out and do shooting tournaments etc. But handguns are a big no no and the current controls on the other guns are pretty rigorous and take quite a bit of time. Oh and I would feel far more comfortable if the person breaking into my house didn't have a gun, even if that meant I didn't either.

Oh and earlier I wasn't saying poverty was the only reason, I just personally believe that greater poverty is usually likely to lead to greater crime rates (guns or not).

Handguns are actually perfectly legal, providing they use an 'obsolete' calibre. (i.e. plenty of antique, fully working guns) The ammunition is legal to buy as well, it's only possessing both that's a crime.

 

[dmnEPC]

a man didn't beat 26 people to death with a fuckin surfboard last Friday

Maybe a poor example. But the point is people die for no reason. Drunk driving accidents account for nearly 10,000 deaths per year, with nearly 30% of accidents caused by criminals driving intoxicated. Its nearly the same amount of people killed by drunk drivers (way more if you count all trafic fatalities) as firearms. Should we make cars illegal? It's a privilege to own a firearm, you can loose that privilege. It's also a privilege to drive a car. Should the government keep taking away all the privileges that might hurt us? Maybe we should have the government make all our decisions for us.

 

[dchuk]

Maybe a poor example. But the point is people die for no reason. Drunk driving accidents account for nearly 10,000 deaths per year, with nearly 30% of accidents caused by criminals driving intoxicated. Its nearly the same amount of people killed by drunk drivers (way more if you count all trafic fatalities) as firearms. Should we make cars illegal? It's a privilege to own a firearm, you can loose that privilege. It's also a privilege to drive a car. Should the government keep taking away all the privileges that might hurt us? Maybe we should have the government make all our decisions for us.

the government's decision to arm the country at the time of writing the amendments to the constitution is why we have a gun culture in the first place.

Also, cars serve a purpose as a utility. Guns serve no utility for the general public.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

the government's decision to arm the country at the time of writing the amendments to the constitution is why we have a gun culture in the first place.

Also, cars serve a purpose as a utility. Guns serve no utility for the general public.

What exactly are you arguing for? The elimination of all guns? Just assault weapons? Only government agents should have guns?

I get that you don't like the gun culture but what exactly do you think is a feasible solution to the problem you see?

By the way, violent crime in this country is at its lowest rate in over 40 years and has been trending downward for the last 20 years. I know a couple of major events lately make it seem like shit is outta control but it's actually safer in this country than it has been since 1970.

 

[dmnEPC]

the government's decision to arm the country at the time of writing the amendments to the constitution is why we have a gun culture in the first place.

Also, cars serve a purpose as a utility. Guns serve no utility for the general public.

In your opinion, in which half the country disagrees (and the other half with me) with.

Your mind is closed to any reality other than violence, so there is really no point in continuing this discussion. I can only hope one day someone can share with you the joys and commradare that comes with firearm ownership.

 

[AdamC]

Japan is 1/26th the size of the US. It's not feasible to erradicate guns in the US.

Japans population is 2/5ths the US's.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

Japans population is 2/5ths the US's.

Yes, but they like tentacle porn and other weird shit so comparisons are not valid.

 

[AdamC]

what's wrong with tentacle porn?

 

[ly2 from WF]

Why are you all so against a ban on firearms?
Take a look at countries where this is enforced, wheres the problem?
The only reason that you need your guns is because the whole fucking population is armed.

IMO, the main reason is because you're a huge faggot.