AP Poll Puts McCain and Obama to a near tie.

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popeye said:
I'm sorry I lied! I will stand behind Obama (at least until he turns us into a marxist country) but in no way can I stand behind Pelosi, Reid and Barney "elmer fudd" frank.
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Well, the upside of an Obama win is that people will see and finally understand the full force of "liberalism", and most likely even facets of "socialism". Too many people consider themselves "liberal" just given the definition of the word.

We'll see liberalism in full force over the next 4 years if McCain can't get his shit together.
 


turbolapp said:
Ah, yes, that would be lovely.
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Democracy fails when the citizens discover that they can vote themselves money

Yea we have seen an obama "type" of administration in the White House. His name was Jimmy Carter and he was ran out of office in shame.

We have tried socialism with the "great society" and many other marxist programs. They have all failed. Insanity is when you continue to do the same thing over and over and yet it fails every time.
 
What is so similar about Jimmy Carter and Obama?

Anyway, just because someone is a "liberal", it doesn't mean they are all alike. Take two internet marketers, one achieves a high level of success, another can't make a full time living out of it. It's down to the person.

P.S. I don't know how you define socialism but what would you say Europe is?
 
popeye said:
This is what true Americans do. They stand behind WHOEVER is voted in.
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Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country.
  • Theodore Roosevelt
 
jeanpaul1979 said:
What is so similar about Jimmy Carter and Obama?

Anyway, just because someone is a "liberal", it doesn't mean they are all alike. Take two internet marketers, one achieves a high level of success, another can't make a full time living out of it. It's down to the person.

P.S. I don't know how you define socialism but what would you say Europe is?
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I would say that Europe is experimenting with socialism and it's leading them down a very dangerous road. Political Correctness is necessary in a socialistic society. Europe's extreme PC has led them on track to be a Muslim Theocracy in 15-20 years.
 
popeye said:
I would say that Europe is experimenting with socialism and it's leading them down a very dangerous road. Political Correctness is necessary in a socialistic society. Europe's extreme PC has led them on track to be a Muslim Theocracy in 15-20 years.
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Yep, all the nations in Europe are the same, just as they are in the Americas. No difference between Norway and Italy, Venezuala and the US...

and as socialism progresses to communism it will naturally produce extreme theocracies, just look at how religion dominated the government of the USSR.
 
If McCain wins, that statistically means (due to his age) that Palin is our president which is scary. By voting for McCain you are not really voting for John McCain, you are really voting for Palin. Remember that republicans...
 
kingrage said:
"If McCain wins, that statistically means (due to his age) that Palin is our president which is scary."

Find me the statistic that says that 100% of 72 year old males die within 4 years.
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Right here (means most likely he will). Though not 100%.
And that's a fuck of a chance to take.
Average male life expectancy for a male in the united states is 75.15 years.
 
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kingrage said:
"If McCain wins, that statistically means (due to his age) that Palin is our president which is scary."

Find me the statistic that says that 100% of 72 year old males die within 4 years.
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No one said that it was a 100% statistic. The average life expectancy in 2006 (latest year I could find) was 76 for a white male. So statistically speaking he has a much higher chance of dieing while in office. That probability is raised further taken his cancer history, though I couldn't find any concert source for that.

N C H S - 2008 Press Release - U.S. Mortality Drops Sharply in 2006, Latest Data Show
 
invisible777 said:
These electoral maps mean shit because Obama is like +3 or 4 in most of the big battleground states, which means these electoral maps award him the electoral votes all the while the +3 or 4 in the polls is in the margin of error.
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Well, the issue with that statement is a lot of states that would ordinarily be(or would be repub)...aren't battleground this year. By definition battleground states have to be 3-4 points different.

Examples:
Virginia: Consistently republican in the past, Barack is up 7 points.
Ohio: Always a battleground state, but Barack up 7 points.
Colorado: Republican last 3 elections, Barack up by 7 points.

I mean, fuck. Does anyone else remember when Michigan was a battleground state? McCain pulled out here. I barely see political ads from national campaigns. The occasional Obama one, but it's been over a week since I've seen a McCain one I think, and if I remember correct that was from a PAC.

Edit: Before someone whines about whatever poll source they think I was using, I'm using the one mentioned earlier which appears to average around 6 polls for each state. Most updated within the past 48 hours.
 
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