Best Forum Software?

And what do you think of it?

I really like XenForo so far. I jumped ship from vBulletin to IPB a while back, but never really liked it as much as vBulletin 3.

I did a test conversion from IPB to XenForo on a copy of my largest forum and everything converted perfectly as far as I can tell. I have been playing with it for a couple days and already planning to convert the live site soon. The spam cleanup and moderator controls will be a big improvement from IPB. I think the Facebook "like/recommend" integration should help bring more traffic. I could see XenForo passing both vBulletin and IPB in the future.
 


Thanks for the info. Kier made VB what it is and like netphase said, it lost it's soul when IB bought it.

Def going to check out xenforo. I'm asuming Kier's non-compete ran out or that he never had one.

As far as I know, IB (the new owners of vbulletin) sued both Xenforo and Kier both in the UK and California. According to the Wikipedia page on Xenforo, the Cali court judge dismissed the case.

I really like XenForo so far. I jumped ship from vBulletin to IPB a while back, but never really liked it as much as vBulletin 3.

I did a test conversion from IPB to XenForo on a copy of my largest forum and everything converted perfectly as far as I can tell. I have been playing with it for a couple days and already planning to convert the live site soon. The spam cleanup and moderator controls will be a big improvement from IPB. I think the Facebook "like/recommend" integration should help bring more traffic. I could see XenForo passing both vBulletin and IPB in the future.

Not meaning to sound like a Xenforo fanboy at all, but I truly share the exact sentiments on Xenforo as you've just mentioned.
 
Whats up with VB4?

Not had any experience with VB at all (apart from being a user on the forums WF & DP etc).

Whats the differences?
What Version is WF?
 
Whats the differences?
What Version is WF?

Mate, this is stuff you can research yourself via Google and their websites.

As for VB version of WF, viewing the page source is pretty easy to get it unless they remove the footprint in the theme (which they haven't).

Code:
<meta name="generator" content="vBulletin 3.8.6" />
There comes a point where people stop answering your questions that can be easily Googled and start trolling you. You're getting to that point.


Never heard of Xenforo until this thread.. Would definitely consider them.

I haven't either. That's a very nice find. Looks like their pricing model is the same too.
 
Whats up with VB4?

Not had any experience with VB at all (apart from being a user on the forums WF & DP etc).

Whats the differences?
What Version is WF?

I'm not a big coder guy so take it for what it's worth.

I was under the impression that the VB4 redesign was going to make customizing VB much simpler and the underlying code much cleaner and smaller. I also thought the software would be easier on the server, faster, etc.

None of that seems to be the case.

IMHO there is no benefit from upgrading VB3.8 to VB4 other than to make VB /IB more cash.

Overall I'm just not impressed with the direction or future of VB after Kier left.
 
I just browsed about 50 forums owned by Internet Brands looking for vBulletin 4 installs. Every site that I looked at is still running vBulletin 3.x except vBulletin.com. vBulletin 4 has been out since December of 2009. Internet Brands should be using the product that they are selling.
 
I just browsed about 50 forums owned by Internet Brands looking for vBulletin 4 installs. Every site that I looked at is still running vBulletin 3.x except vBulletin.com. vBulletin 4 has been out since December of 2009. Internet Brands should be using the product that they are selling.

Not much more to say than that.
 
I own a vBulletin forum with over 3,700,000 posts and 1,200 members logging in each day.

I don't recommend vBulletin.

Reasons:
- Jelsoft sold the platform to a company called Internet Brands and it's been shite every since. Version 4.0+ isn't a pretty product and it ignited a bunch of drama over the developer's evident disconnection with vBulletin owners.
- You'll notice that most big vB boards out there are still using v3.8.x which is the vB that you're used to. vB 4.0+ is an insulting attempt to catch up with Invision's IP.Board, except their idea of catching up involved adding default, ugly gradients, an unusable templating system, avoiding features that people have come to expect on the internet, and a generally disappointing product.
- The forum software still hasn't really changed from its initial design. You still feel like you're playing with something made in 1999, and your intuition is pretty much true.
- The developer isn't a forward thinker and vBulletin is riding on the slowing momentum of its hey-day in the mid 2000s and the resulting network effect.

The nice things about vBulletin: One of the most familiar forum interfaces out there (not that any alternatives throw anyone for a loop--I'm just scraping the barrel) AND its significant developer and add-on community. But these things don't matter unless you like cruising a list of thousands of add-ons that add zero value to your forum.

Options I recommend, instead:

1. Rolling your own. This is actually what I'm doing for my next product. I'm designing the forum with Ruby on Rails instead of trying to learn how to manipulate a pre-existing forum. I think forums are slowly dying in favor of more integrated community designs that rock the old message board boat. I have more control over implementing these emerging expectations when I've coded my own forum. I also hate diving into forum platforms. vBulletin burned me out.

2. Invision's IP.Board. The only other forum platform worth paying for. Very well-coded. You feel like you're working on something that the Wordpress people would make if they entered the message board arena. Not as many hacks as vBulletin, but most vB add-on aren't useful, and many of the good ones just give vB functionality that IPBoard already has, or is trivial to change because IPBoard is easier to modify. IPBoard's admin backend is legendary after working with vB for 5 years. Great performance out of the box. They stay ahead of the curve.

3. phpBB. Biggest free forum with the biggest community.

4. There are very good forums out there that are shadowed by the prevalence of the big three, but if you are porting over a large userbase, you probably want to use a forum that's easy to google support for. Then again, you aren't going to need this advantage unless you plan on making some heavy modifications to the platform. I'd take the WFers in this thread up on their Xenforo recommendation and try it out. I've no experience with it.
 
I'm not a big coder guy so take it for what it's worth.

I was under the impression that the VB4 redesign was going to make customizing VB much simpler and the underlying code much cleaner and smaller. I also thought the software would be easier on the server, faster, etc.

None of that seems to be the case.

IMHO there is no benefit from upgrading VB3.8 to VB4 other than to make VB /IB more cash.

Overall I'm just not impressed with the direction or future of VB after Kier left.

I would have to agree with this speaking from experience.

I recently did a theme customization for a client here on Wickedfire, wherein I ported a theme from vB 3.8.x to vB 4.x

I showed him a demo on my own server which he liked completely. I then proceeded to export the theme and images and had them emailed to him. Just because his forum is 4.x.y and my demo was on 4.x.(y+1) the theme has now come out to be full of glitches and I now have to login to his actual server and check for the errors. Pretty fucked up IMO.

As opposed to this, within a month of owning Xenforo - I was able to theme the living shit out of it.
 
design your own or VB 3.8

IPB is good but designing your own is better

The other options get spammed pretty easily.
 
Thanks for your input guys, as for building your own from scratch, i personally dont reccommend it, its very time consuming and at the end of the day your just reinventing the wheel.