'Bin Laden Dead' Hoax Exposed

Having proof that OBL is dead and proving the POTUS' version of the events are two different things. Sure BHO will probably provide some sort of graphic photo or run a Popular Mechanics puff piece, but it doesn't prove the media myth.
According to Bhutto, OBL was murdered years ago by the same guy who rubbed out Daniel Pearl. The proof that you're "predicting" to see has obviously been on ice all this time.
JIM LEHRER: So do you think the - did the president see the shots fired at Osama bin Laden?

LEON PANETTA: No. No, not at all. I think we - you know, we saw from, you know, some of the operations that we knew that the helicopters had - were on the ground, that the teams were going into the compound. And that was the kind of information that we were following.

 


lol at Limbaugh.

Critics quickly attacked Limbaugh for his sarcasm, which Limbaugh soon admitted.
Wow, CNN did NOT even attempt to portray the real tone of Limbaugh's remarks on this one... Sorry for bothering you guys with it.

After hearing Limbaugh's voice for myself, yes, he was highly sarcastic when he said those words.

Sadly though his voice throughout the broadcast wavered in and out of sarcasm and intent. It sounded to me like he was attempting to praise Bush, bash Obama, and make a complete mockery out of everything else so you can't tell where he stands on the issue at all.

Edit: But still he never even hints at any conspiracy, as if it all went down the way the POTUS described.
 
Wow, CNN did NOT even attempt to portray the real tone of Limbaugh's remarks on this one... Sorry for bothering you guys with it.

After hearing Limbaugh's voice for myself, yes, he was highly sarcastic when he said those words.

Sadly though his voice throughout the broadcast wavered in and out of sarcasm and intent. It sounded to me like he was attempting to praise Bush, bash Obama, and make a complete mockery out of everything else so you can't tell where he stands on the issue at all.

Edit: But still he never even hints at any conspiracy, as if it all went down the way the POTUS described.

Limbaugh's squirrely. I wrote him off years ago, and now chuckle at him from afar. He's a great marketer, though.*



* Then again, so is POTUS.
 
Luke - most of this 'thread' isn't really about Osama or Obama. It isn't about this instance regarding whether or not we killed Osama. Someone died, and we dumped their body at sea for sure. I'll bet there if footage and all sorts of "proof".

Did he die there? Have we had him in custody for years? Was it even him? Was he a cia plant who was never really a threat?

Who the hell knows and that's part of the problem. Most of the members on this forum don't remember the cold war - those of us that are a little older remember air raid drills, the few that are even older than that remember worrying that others would think they were a commie.

Back then we still had freedom of the press. If you are under 25 you probably don't remember non corporate controlled press. Fox/MNBC is the norm for you.

Freedom of the press is one of the things that our founders felt was important in controlling our government. While there have always been state secrets - more things are secret then ever before. Throw in corporate control and political leanings in all our major news networks and you've got a major problem.

And there is no one out there to question in the traditional press. Even worse, the internet allows normal Joes (you even) to present alternative ideas. This should be something that gives you more freedom and strengthens our Federal Republic. Instead when someone looks at something differently than fox/MNBC or the whatever the press is pushing this week they are being labeled a conspiracy nut.

Let's clear a few things up since it seems I'm being called stupid in this thread by people who are using the same flawed logic they are accusing me of to suggest that I am not thinking clearly.

1.) Questioning what the media and government spew out these days is not making citizens (you included) a conspiracy nut. I have the right to free speech, thought, and the right and OBLIGATION to question my government. I do not live in a communist China and if I want to think that there are aliens in the whitehouse I can. If I were to think that I should and should be supported in asking questions or even writing about it. I should question what I'm told.

2.) Governments lie to protect state secrets. Politicians lie to gain and keep power. Politicians lie pretending to protect the state while really doing it to gain and keep power. When the media isn't free to report and question any longer politicians will do a whole lot more of it.

3.) Large conspiracies are hard to believe. However if you think a group of soldiers told to "take this body, invade this house, bring the body out and dump it in the sea. Other than that keep your mouth shut", by the president wouldn't do it - your nuts. To think that our government wouldn't say it was Osama when it was really someone else is nuts.

Any American telling others to just toe the party line isn't being patriotic - they are helping to destroy our freedoms - theirs included. So many points in history have the population taking rulers/governments/priests word as law and having things go horrible -- our press is supposed to help stop that.
 
Luke - most of this 'thread' isn't really about Osama or Obama. It isn't about this instance regarding whether or not we killed Osama.
Although the thread is labeled with the words "Bin Laden" I hear you. The underlying issue that keeps popping up here is freedom of the press, at least that's what those who assume conspiracy keep bringing up.

Back then we still had freedom of the press. If you are under 25 you probably don't remember non corporate controlled press. Fox/MNBC is the norm for you.
LOL; Perish the thought. I saw Network in the theatre. (Ok I was too young to understand it all; but the roots were planted...)

Freedom of the press is one of the things that our founders felt was important in controlling our government. While there have always been state secrets - more things are secret then ever before. Throw in corporate control and political leanings in all our major news networks and you've got a major problem.
Quoting me directly without proper credit given? Shenanigans!


1.) Questioning what the media and government spew out these days is not making citizens (you included) a conspiracy nut. I have the right to free speech, thought, and the right and OBLIGATION to question my government. I do not live in a communist China and if I want to think that there are aliens in the whitehouse I can. If I were to think that I should and should be supported in asking questions or even writing about it. I should question what I'm told.
Agreed. I don't think we've been given much of the truth on this, at least not yet. I bet 95% of this country is more than a little dissatisfied with the info we've received so far. Even Ron Paul called the president out on this one, just 48 hours after the announcement...

2.) Governments lie to protect state secrets...
No argument here either.


3.) Large conspiracies are hard to believe. However if you think a group of soldiers told to "take this body, invade this house, bring the body out and dump it in the sea. Other than that keep your mouth shut", by the president wouldn't do it - your nuts. To think that our government wouldn't say it was Osama when it was really someone else is nuts.
Once you fully understand the corporate control structure over our government, it becomes pretty obvious which lies a government official can get away with and which he cannot.

If he doesn't have STRONG proof of OBL's death on May 1st in Pakistan, then myself and the POTUS both already know what's going to happen to him... And the Economy and possibly even the whole republic... And we both knew all of that before he gave the Seal team their orders.

Just to be clear; The amount of proof we know that he needs to deliver soon is no less than enough to win the supreme court over and possibly several other federal judges. -He doesn't care if more JFK or "faked moon landing" rumors persist... So it doesn't have to be absolutely perfect.

...But make no mistake, the evidence the white house is currently sitting on is without a doubt in my mind, enough to keep him out of any impeachment trials or public disgrace. -In fact I do honestly believe this was all timed to help his poll numbers RISE, not fall. (Which so far is the case.)

So please do not assume I am trying to blindly defend Obama. I didn't even vote for him nor do I assume that he wouldn't stoop to fooling us on something like this.

My point is clearly that he's going to get away with it, Period.
 
( I wasn't quoting you - but if you said that somewhere think a little more about this)

I've got work to do so I'll end with this Luke - something to think about:


I'm sure if you dig a little deeper you can find dozens and dozens of big lies to this scale and this import in our recent history. Off the top of my head I'd say look into how we got involved in Vietnam and just go to the iraq war. You'll be amazed at the THOUSANDS of lies told by your government in just that time line.

In your lifetime our politicians have lied to start wars, lied to topple governments, lied to you about money, resources, your future, etc... REALLY research all the lies reported to the media during the iraq war. It blows the misdirection (which was necessary) during Vietnam out of the water.

As long as you remain inactive, the liars have no reason to stop. As long as you believe there is proof just enough not to make enough noise, they will have no reason to stop.

None.


I think this lie/truth is so huge that we will never see any pictures (national security).

If anything gets leaked (it will be just a leak) there will be evidence of photoshoping. No one can be responsible for a leak but stupid people who wonder how to work their computer will believe it.
 
Luke research "Bohemian grove" on youtube, even Pres. Nixon said about that place and people who attend it '' it is the most faggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine" :)
 
Luke research "Bohemian grove" on youtube, even Pres. Nixon said about that place and people who attend it '' it is the most faggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine" :)
Just read the Vanity Fair article on it... Sounds like your typical "old boys club" for boys with too much money. No doubt there will be lots of conspiracy theories about this 100+ year old network group of elites. :pimp:

As for the shiite on youtube about it; I will take a pass on commenting on that cr@p at this time.
 
Photos and proof will come out closer to election 2012. I got way more respect for Obamas game now(and hope people will catch on). Why waste sometimes like this now. Obama is counter political striker and sets up all his shoots.
Case study - Trump and the birthers.
Deathers are next.
Obama will get elected in 2012.
 
If Osama is not dead, don't you think he would have made a video to show the world that the infidels are lying?
 
Photos and proof will come out closer to election 2012. I got way more respect for Obamas game now(and hope people will catch on). Why waste sometimes like this now. Obama is counter political striker and sets up all his shoots.
Case study - Trump and the birthers.
Deathers are next.
Obama will get elected in 2012.
I have to admit this sounds spot on too. I'm leaning this way but I do wonder if he can fabricate good enough evidence if OBL died in 2004.

If Osama is not dead, don't you think he would have made a video to show the world that the infidels are lying?
Keep up with the game here, infidel.

No one thinks he's still alive... It's most probable that he died in 2004 from kidney failure.
 
Photos and proof will come out closer to election 2012. I got way more respect for Obamas game now(and hope people will catch on). Why waste sometimes like this now. Obama is counter political striker and sets up all his shoots.
Case study - Trump and the birthers.
Deathers are next.
Obama will get elected in 2012.

I believe that's what he's trying as well, but if he does release the photo after putting out this complete and total Bullshit, there's not a person on the planet that won't see right through it. And it will have the opposite effect of what he's intending.
 
I believe that's what he's trying as well, but if he does release the photo after putting out this complete and total Bullshit, there's not a person on the planet that won't see right through it. And it will have the opposite effect of what he's intending.
Thing is; you just assume it "A" photo.

As I said elsewhere, he knows the stakes and it will be overwhelming evidence... Tissue samples, video of his autopsy, death and plopping into the sea, etc... Stuff they knew they'd have to take to show to other world leaders.

You can't "see through" it all without being laughed at by the world... Even if it is all fabricated.
 
Regarding the possibility that the entire Osama debacle "could be fake and contrived"... you need do little more that pay ATTENTION to what the powers that be write in their own publishing's.

Case(s) in point:

H.G. Wells

Zbigniew Brzezinski

Carroll Quigley

David Rockefeller

Read anything from just the above mentioned and your mind will fucking melt with the degree and finesse these twisted bastards manipulate our world/realities. And this is only the tip of the Iceberg.
 
Case(s) in point:

H.G. Wells

Zbigniew Brzezinski

Carroll Quigley

David Rockefeller

Read anything from just the above mentioned and your mind will fucking melt with the degree and finesse these twisted bastards manipulate our world/realities. And this is only the tip of the Iceberg.
Actually, I wrote all of their books for them, and I do believe you are misunderstanding my intended purpose of those books.

Now take a hike before we REALLY make fun of how shiny your hat is.
 
Fuck some people take this place way to fucking seriously

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The current administration has ZERO credibility. It's "my belief" after examining all the evidence for myself, that the recent raid on Osama's compound and his death was a complete hoax. He was most likely dead long before 2011. Many very credible sources have said as much.

Most of us were conned with 911 to launch the fake "War on Terror" and they are going to keep on conning us for as long as they can. What's alarming about this new development (OBL's death), is that it seems to be the pretext for an expanded war with Pakistan, and a rapid expansion of the domestic police state far above and beyond what they've already managed to accomplish.
 
The current administration has ZERO credibility. It's "my belief" after examining all the evidence for myself, that the recent raid on Osama's compound and his death was a complete hoax. He was most likely dead long before 2011. Many very credible sources have said as much.

Most of us were conned with 911 to launch the fake "War on Terror" and they are going to keep on conning us for as long as they can. What's alarming about this new development (OBL's death), is that it seems to be the pretext for an expanded war with Pakistan, and a rapid expansion of the domestic police state far above and beyond what they've already managed to accomplish.

So Al Qaeda does not exist? It's just a figment of our collective imaginations?