Bodybuilding Supplements

papajohn56 said:
jack3d+powder L-Arginine preworkout, tastes like complete ass but works well. other than that, protein, fish oil, a multivitamin, and green tea extract.

Nothing too freaky, and I only use stuff that has real scientific backing to the ingredients.
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Do you lift in Fike?
 


Dankface said:
Nah bro. BCAAs are the precursors to amino chains (protein). Having them in your body helps repair muscle damage. I take protein as well as BCAAs, and everyone should too.
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yes I know how BCAAs work, and eating enough protein and protein supplements will do the job. Taking 2 scoops of ON Gold standard whey has 5g of BCAAs alone. The problem with BCAA supplementation alone is it reduces appetite, which if you're trying to bulk up will hinder you. Hypothalamic mTOR Signaling Regulates Food Intake

bowlcutah said:
Do you lift in Fike?
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Used to a lot, I live in Greenville now - but still spend a lot of time over in Clemson. Fike was good but at the time I wished it had more free weights, and bumper plates.
 
Creatine, whey, fish oil, and multi-vitamins are the only things you "need".

I didn't list pre-workout cause arguably it isn't needed as much as ppl think, eat 30-50grams of carbs 30-60 minutes before working out and take a caffiene pill and you'll be more than fine.
 
Hahaha

All you need is Oats, tuna, water and Peanut butter.


I'm amazed marketers are falling for this supplement hype. Really a multivitamin? Unless you like paying to piss it out.

OP muscles feed off protein. Aka eat your nut for maximum gains.

Broscience MD
 
tygoldberg said:
Hahaha

All you need is Oats, tuna, water and Peanut butter.


I'm amazed marketers are falling for this supplement hype. Really a multivitamin? Unless you like paying to piss it out.

OP muscles feed off protein. Aka eat your nut for maximum gains.

Broscience MD
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Scumbag tygoldberg - complains about bro science, ignores that many supplements have real scientific backing. Really, oats, tuna, water and PB is all? You know fuck all about any of this
 
papajohn56 said:
Scumbag tygoldberg - complains about bro science, ignores that many supplements have real scientific backing. Really, oats, tuna, water and PB is all? You know fuck all about any of this
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yumadtho.exe

All these supplements contains what? nutrients.

Nutrients that you can find in foods, such as fish, chicken, eggs, peanut butter etc.

amirite?

Fuck buying stacks. Stack fridge full of eggs and chicken.



Don't be mad if you're falling for the marketing. Kudos to those that market to the likes of you.


And yes, I have a bucket of Whey on the counter.
 
tygoldberg said:
yumadtho.exe

All these supplements contains what? nutrients.

Nutrients that you can find in foods, such as fish, chicken, eggs, peanut butter etc.

amirite?

Fuck buying stacks. Stack fridge full of eggs and chicken.



Don't be mad if you're falling for the marketing. Kudos to those that market to the likes of you.


And yes, I have a bucket of Whey on the counter.
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Not everyone eats enough of these daily or can - plus chicken and eggs don't supply everything needed. Do you eat 6oz of salmon daily to get enough fish oil? There's a reason it's called a supplement - it supplements a good diet, obviously it doesn't fix your shit diet.
 
papajohn56 said:
Not everyone eats enough of these daily or can - plus chicken and eggs don't supply everything needed. Do you eat 6oz of salmon daily to get enough fish oil? There's a reason it's called a supplement - it supplements a good diet, obviously it doesn't fix your shit diet.
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He's trolling dude, figured it out after his second post. Either that or I just refuse to believe anyone is that stupid.
 
Quality multi (Source naturals or Orange triad), 100% creatine monohydrate - IDGAF about the brand as long as it's creapure certified, fish oil, whey protein for when I miss my macros.

Anything else that you "need" can be obtained through your diet. Like mentioned above, ON has plenty of BCAAs that make BCAA supplementation ignorant. Only benefit of isolated BCAA supps is for when you are on a cut.
 
MediaBuysEyez said:
Anyone using creatine have concerns with potential side effects? I used to be on it but got off quite a while back...
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"Extensive research over the last decade[date missing] has shown that oral creatine supplementation at a rate of 5 to 20 grams per day appears to be very safe and largely devoid of adverse side-effects,[20] while at the same time effectively improving the physiological response to resistance exercise, increasing the maximal force production of muscles in both men and women.[21][22]"

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papajohn56 said:
"Extensive research over the last decade[date missing] has shown that oral creatine supplementation at a rate of 5 to 20 grams per day appears to be very safe and largely devoid of adverse side-effects,[20] while at the same time effectively improving the physiological response to resistance exercise, increasing the maximal force production of muscles in both men and women.[21][22]"

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I've seen several studies that say something like this typically:

Side effects and adverse reactions to creatine supplementation

Short term (less than 2 weeks) exercise studies have not reported any adverse events associated with creatine supplementation. There have been no long term studies done to evaluate the safety of prolonged administration. This is unfortunate because increasingly more and more athletes are taking creatine supplements for longer periods. Anecdotal reports have begun to emerge and have noted increased muscle cramping (especially during exercise in the heat), nausea and other gastrointestinal disturbances, elevated liver transaminases, and acute renal injury.

Creatine supplementation, in the dosages commonly used, results in urinary concentrations that are 90 times greater than normal. The long term effects of this have not been investigated, but there is possibility for a variety of nephrotoxic, i.e., kidney damaging, events. There is potential for direct toxicity on renal tubules where urine is formed, and for acceleration of kidney stone formation. Recently, a baseball player for the Houston Astros was determined to have suffered from dehydration, kidney stones, and transient kidney damage as the result of creatine supplementation. Additionally, the deaths of 3 collegiate wrestlers this past year are being investigated to determine what role creatine supplementation may have played.
Impurities are present in virtually every manufactured product, and in some cases, even though the product may be considered harmless, the impurity is not. Such was the case in the late 1980's when an epidemic of cases of eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome, including over 30 deaths, were blamed on a contaminant present in L-tryptophan (9), an amino acid supplement widely taken as a sleep aid. Creatine, and other such supplements, are not regulated by the FDA. No published investigation has been conducted on creatine to determine what impurities might be present in creatine supplements, and what their long term effect might be.
The bottom line is that no one can confidently state that prolonged creatine supplementation is safe, and its use would best be avoided until more data can be compiled. Prolonged administration is, in essence, an uncontrolled toxicity study and one which might yield harmful results. Is it worth the risk? Remember, it's your body!
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Source: Creatine Supplementation in Athletes: Review

Precautions:

Because of the potential for side effects and interactions with medications, dietary supplements should be taken only under the supervision of a knowledgeable health care provider.
Side effects of creatine include weight gain, muscle cramps, muscle strains and pulls, stomach upset, diarrhea, dizziness, high blood pressure, liver dysfunction, and kidney damage. Most studies have found no significant side effects at the doses used for up to 6 months.
Rhabdomyolysis (breakdown of skeletal muscle tissue) and sudden kidney failure was reported in one case involving an athlete taking more than 10 grams daily of creatine for 6 weeks. People with kidney disease, high blood pressure, or liver disease should not take creatine.
Taking creatine supplements may stop the body from making its own natural stores, although researchers don' t know what the long-term effects are. The Food & Drug Administration recommends talking to your health care provider before starting to take creatine.
There have been reports of contaminated creatine supplements. Be sure to buy products made by established companies with good reputations.
Some doctors think creatine may cause an irregular heartbeat or a skin condition called purpuric dermatosis in some people, but more research is needed to know for sure.
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Source: Creatine




I'm not saying you shouldn't take creatine, I'm just saying there is the possibility it may be proven in the future that it should be avoided...
 
MediaBuysEyez said:
I'm not saying you shouldn't take creatine, I'm just saying there is the possibility it may be proven in the future that it should be avoided...
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Noticing specifically that in <6 month durations no side effects have been found. This is why you cycle, and get checkups from the doctor.
 
So, what he's saying is basically leucine is better than whey since whey is being digested while leucine goes right into the blood.

Russ86 said:
In order of importance:

1. Leucine
2. Whey Protein Isolate
3. Creatine
4. Beta-Alanine
5. Glutamine

Source, this guy has 14+ years experience in personal training and body building. Intelligence + Experience = he knows what's up.

Watch the video and check out some of his other stuff.

Top5 Supplements UPDATED - YouTube

edit: One of the more important things to note on this video is the using Beta-Alanine instead of L-Arginine as pre-workout.
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