Bomb at Boston Marathon

loyolabenson said:
saw them already. Dont feel like throwing up. I guarantee the above video is nothing. Just thought that was a weird timely removal of the object in conjunction with the officer passing.
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Or just a couple of kids who know how to use Adobe After Effects, and are looking for some Youtube views. One or the other.
 


contract said:
Woah...

News is saying this marathon was dedicated to Newtown and Sandy Hook?.. 26 miles = 26 children's lives lost.. Did not know this?

Of all days, and all events? It happens on something related to Newtown?...

Sketchy..
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That's a hell of a stretch. I'm all about patterns, but come on. You don't really buy into this?
 
Veritas said:
All the news channels will run this shit to the fucking grave and keep on showing those two bombs go off like no tomorrow. The goverment should limit the amount of time's they fucking rerun that shit over and over again.
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please stop posting
 
dchuk said:
I can't decide if I'm more upset about this random act of violence or the impending tin foil hatters who are going to come up with some ridiculous theories about why this happened/who did this/the government blah blah.

Also, apparently the families of the Newtown school shooting victims were stationed at the end of the race in a VIP section because the last mile was dedicated to them. Fucking awful.
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It's an emotional topic.

I'm personally much more upset for the victims than I am about anyone speculating or investigating those who may be responsible.

I was giving a presentation to a client's staff today when I heard the news. I was outlining a marketing plan in front of about 15 people when one of the sales guys said "someone just bombed the Boston Marathon".

I stopped the presentation. People were asking how many casualties. No one knew. Someone asked who was responsible - another guy said "muslims". At this point the only news was two explosions and massive injuries. A few others quickly agreed, it HAD to be "the muslims".

I had to bite my tongue.

More info trickled in, I finished up the presentation. I didn't say anything because I had no info. But my gut said (and I still think this is likely) that it's going to be some kind of "anti-government Libertarian", or maybe a right wing group pissed off about government, gun control and taxes.

Not because that's who actually did it, but because that's the picture they need to paint for America's new terrorists.

I could be wrong. But I can promise you that no matter who's responsible (or who we're led to believe is responsible) that it'll be used to push an agenda to make us "safer and more secure".

It'll be used to stir up hate, to broadly paint some group of people as enemies of America. We'll see some kind of legislation to make sure that this never happens again. Maybe TSA at all sporting events. Who knows.

It was a horrible attack. It makes me sick.

But to put in perspective, on the same day 55 Iraqi citizens were killed, 100's injured in bombings across Baghdad.

I guarantee more people were killed in foreign countries in the same time period by our government than the number injured in Boston today. And they're not all Al-Qaeda (who we created). They're innocent people. Innocent women and children. And it happens daily. And no one gives a shit.

You don't see that shit on CNN because no one cares. American's are desensitized to it. But the reality is that Boston is a papercut compared to the hell our Government rains down on other countries on a daily basis.

And before anyone says I'm sympathizing with anyone who blows people up, I'm not. Killing people is wrong, period.

But do you really expect to be able to do what our country does to millions of people around the world, waging war on foreign countries for decades and not expect to turn our own country into a warzone?

We are the most hated country in the world...

The United States is the most hated country in the world, followed closely by Israel, and then by nobody. Why? Why not Ecuador? China? Russia? East Timor? The hostility puzzles many Americans, who genuinely believe their country to be a force for good, a pillar of democracy, a defender of human rights.

To the rest of the world, none of this is even close.

If you have lived abroad, as so very few Americans have, the explanation for the hatred is obvious: Meddling. Relentless, prideful, uncomprehending meddling, frequently military, often with horrendous death tolls. Americans, adroitly managed by a controlled press, historically illiterate, incurious, decreasingly educated, either have never heard of the American behavior that angers others, or believe it to have been inspired by virtuous motives. Nobody else thinks so. Add to unfamiliarity with the wider world the constantly inculcated assertion that America is the greatest, most wonderful nation ever to exist, a light to the world, a shining city on a hill, and you get a dangerously delusional state. Especially now. In the past, American economic and military supremacy were such that the US didn’t have to care what others thought. The times, they are a-changing.

It might be wise to compare briefly the view through American and foreign eyes. Consider Iraq. To most of the world, the war on Iraq was brutal, unprovoked, and murderous. More than a few, looking at the ruins of Fallujah, thought of Guernica – of which few in the States have ever heard.


Many Americans do not believe that we destroyed Iraq for oil, empire, and the Israel lobby, as was in fact the case. No. We wanted to topple an evil dictator and dispense the precious gift of democracy. It was a question of goodness. Many apparently still believe that Iraq had something to do with the attacks on New York. Again, controlled press, poor schooling, little curiosity.

Similarly, Americans tend to see the war on Afghanistan as having to do with ending Terror or sprouting democracy – not as the Great Game (“Hanh?”) redux, or the quest for the TAPI pipeline (“Say whuh?”) or Caspian hydrocarbons. (“Caspian? You mean the Friendly Ghost?”) To most of the world, Afghanistan is just another sorry spectacle of American fighter-bombers killing peasants, of gutted children and drone attacks on half-identified targets. This, the merciless use of overwhelming firepower against lightly armed campesinos, is what the world sees, over and over. Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan. It isn’t pretty.
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The View From Abroad by Fred Reed

And it ain't because we're free (ha) or rich.

Say the attack was by a radical Islamic group. Do you think that'd happen if we hadn't been meddling in Middle-Eastern affairs for damn near a century?

It could be a lone-wolf. It could be any number of groups. We're very good at making enemies.

I'd bet money that if it isn't some kind of false-flag or engineered attack by our government, it's most likely blowback from our foreign policy.

And I'd bet everything that if it is a lone-wolf type of case, that they'll take full advantage of this atrocity to push their own agenda.

Don't be so naive to think that governments all over the world don't participate in this kind of shit every single day.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJgv39GtcJ0]When False Flags Don't Fly - YouTube[/ame]

I'm sorry if "tin foil hatters" upset you.

I get upset when I see people being slaughtered while people attack those who question the possibility that the world's most murderous institutions, those with the most power to gain from these attacks, just may have something to do with it.

Personally, I think failing to investigate and question every possible suspect is incredibly insulting and disrespectful to the victims of tragic attacks like we saw today.
 
As if this wasnt bad enough, a kid from my apartment complex jumped out of a window in my building and killed himself. Happy fucking April 15th.
 
It's amazing how many stories you hear about people who were supposed to be there when the bombs went off but weren't. Like people forgetting things in their hotel room so they had to leave early.

Talk about lucky.
 
Means, motive, opportunity. Boils down to that.
Could have been almost anyone.
Then you start looking at the style...

In-bred, evangelical, Reich Wing meth-heads all the way!
AKA RNC.

Have to LOVE all the "FALSE FLAG, FALSE FLAG...OBAMY'S CUMMING FER US!!!" diarrhea, spewin' across the screens, from the same Patridiots who were (and STILL are) screaming "WMD! WMD!!!", after 9/11.

Means, motive, opportunity & style.

Who is going to blame "Occupy America" and/or "Anonymous", first?
_ GE/Lockheed/Koch/Murdoch TV
_ GE/Lockheed/Koch/Murdoch Radio
_ @GE/Lockheed/Koch/Murdoch Internets
_ Other Liberal Media Conglomerate

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXT0gOk1Ogw]The Big Lebowski Fucking Short Version - YouTube[/ame]
 
JustLloyd said:
Means, motive, opportunity. Boils down to that.
Could have been almost anyone.
Then you start looking at the style...

In-bred, evangelical, Reich Wing meth-heads all the way!
AKA RNC.

Have to LOVE all the "FALSE FLAG, FALSE FLAG...OBAMY'S CUMMING FER US!!!" diarrhea, spewin' across the screens, from the same Patridiots who were (and STILL are) screaming "WMD! WMD!!!", after 9/11.

Means, motive, opportunity & style.

Who is going to blame "Occupy America" and/or "Anonymous", first?
_ GE/Lockheed/Koch/Murdoch TV
_ GE/Lockheed/Koch/Murdoch Radio
_ @GE/Lockheed/Koch/Murdoch Internets
_ Other Liberal Media Conglomerate
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Haven't read this whole thread so don't know if it was mentioned already or not but today/yesterday also marks the aniversary of the Virginia Tech massacre and today is also the celebration for the birthday of North Korea's founder. Weird times...
 
jhoffy22 said:
Haven't read this whole thread so don't know if it was mentioned already or not but today/yesterday also marks the aniversary of the Virginia Tech massacre and today is also the celebration for the birthday of North Korea's founder. Weird times...
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it happened yesterday, not today
 
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Originally Posted by ly2 from WF
I forgot to add, there is one image that I can't look at and it's that god damn .gif of a dog getting hit in the face with a shovel. Fuck man, that shit is brutal.

Man... Now I'm curious!?
 
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