Competing in EDU/GOV dominated niches?

Michael_

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I've been spending a bit too much time in STS lately and having drinks with ma, so I decided it was about time to start a new project. Normally I stay away from niches heavily dominated by .edu and .gov sites, but I've come up with a project idea that I'm getting more passionate about the more time I spend thinking about it (which is all the time, lately).

While I've come up with a few clever ideas to carve out a position, the only reservation I'm currently having is that a metric shit-ton of .edu and .gov sites are indirectly ranking for a lot of my keyword cloud (and, obviously, directly ranking for the really big keys). Most of their on-site is obviously crap since they aren't targeting these keywords directly, but many carry some pretty intimidating link/pr/age profiles as a whole.

I'm hoping you fine men and women could offer some experience/horror stories/success stories on competing with such sites. Not really looking for anything specific. Just hoping to get a grasp of what I may be in for with these .edu and .gov's.
 


drinks with ma

Lol.. keeping milking it man, milk it for all its worth!

But anywoo, it seems to me if you don't pursuit this project because of the .gov sites, you're just letting Obama claw away at your civil liberties. Maybe you can acquire a domain that's already got some age and whatever? Let us know if great seo is enough to overcome shitty seo + trust.
 
I've done it. I've #1'd it, lost that ranking, tried to regain it, slipped further, got back, lost it.

It's a pain. Because Google keeps moving shit around to support big brands more and more. It's the easiest way for them to clear the serps without doing work. So they give more weight to domain age, gov, edu, etc.

One of my big projects right now is owned by Edu/Gov. And I'm creeping up in there, pwning some long-tails. The main term, however, is going to be a different game altogether. Something I don't expect to front page for several years at least.

When you do it, it's worth it. Because most of those Edu/Gov pages fucking blow and have no real information on them. People can tell a real site versus some technical jargon loaded crap they can't do anything actionable from. They prefer the real deal.

It's expensive to get up there, and even more expensive to keep it. Consider that for reals. Pain in the ass.