Conspiracy Theories and Athiesm

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1. Do you see that Theorist? That's a pattern on a dogs ass that fools our brain in thinking it's jesus christ himself. Why would jesus choose to appear on a dogs ass? It must be god who created that pattern of hair to resemble his son, it's a pattern - it had to be created by a mind. Your logic is awesome Theorist - keep it up.. let's move on..

3. Andromeda Galaxy, Was god sleeping when he set it's motion on a direct crash course towards us? Would he be that retarded that he'd leave his beloved children on a one way course to a fiery inferno?

4. Is he so stupid that he couldn't code a star(our Sun) to not radically explode in shape and eventually consume the Earth?

5. Surely, he must be mentally handicapped if he allowed 5 massive extinctions on his "designed" Earth. Are you one of those people that say Dino bones are there to test our faith?

6. For you to even imply that DNA needs a mind just shows how radically flawed your knowledge of DNA is. Why are we so flawed, diseased, retarded, susceptible to buying Acai berries etc.. ? It's because the code isn't near perfect, you'd think a god that is able to create the universe would at least put our DNA in beta test and weed out our afflictions? It's not the way it is because it got designed, it's the way it is because it evolved that way and it got the job done to get us here. Where you see god, anyone that has ANY reasoning what so ever will deduce that it was from millions of slow & incremental changes.

7. I silently laugh at those that argue gospels and scripture. Unrevised, outdated, irrelevant pieces of trash. I also like pictures.

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8. The biggest joke of all is that you say the burden of proof is on us. Honestly though, I just feel sorry for you. Maybe some day you'll stop denying the reality around you and appreciate the world for what it really is, a flawed chunk of rock with a thin crust of life that came to be through natural selection and competition.
 


zimok said:
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1. Do you see that Theorist? That's a pattern on a dogs ass that fools our brain in thinking it's jesus christ himself. Why would jesus choose to appear on a dogs ass? It must be god who created that pattern of hair to resemble his son, it's a pattern - it had to be created by a mind. Your logic is awesome Theorist - keep it up.. let's move on..

3. Andromeda Galaxy, Was god sleeping when he set it's motion on a direct crash course towards us? Would he be that retarded that he'd leave his beloved children on a one way course to a fiery inferno?

4. Is he so stupid that he couldn't code a star(our Sun) to not radically explode in shape and eventually consume the Earth?

5. Surely, he must be mentally handicapped if he allowed 5 massive extinctions on his "designed" Earth. Are you one of those people that say Dino bones are there to test our faith?

6. For you to even imply that DNA needs a mind just shows how radically flawed your knowledge of DNA is. Why are we so flawed, diseased, retarded, susceptible to buying Acai berries etc.. ? It's because the code isn't near perfect, you'd think a god that is able to create the universe would at least put our DNA in beta test and weed out our afflictions? It's not the way it is because it got designed, it's the way it is because it evolved that way and it got the job done to get us here. Where you see god, anyone that has ANY reasoning what so ever will deduce that it was from millions of slow & incremental changes.

7. I silently laugh at those that argue gospels and scripture. Unrevised, outdated, irrelevant pieces of trash. I also like pictures.

religionkv0.png


8. The biggest joke of all is that you say the burden of proof is on us. Honestly though, I just feel sorry for you. Maybe some day you'll stop denying the reality around you and appreciate the world for what it really is, a flawed chunk of rock with a thin crust of life that came to be through natural selection and competition.
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Why would he create a sun that caused us skin cancer and why would he even create evil people, knowing at the point of creation that they will eventually go to hell to burn for eternity?

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Our current scientific knowledge and understanding of the universe isn’t enough to prove or disprove the existence of God or explain specifically how we were created. I don’t think we will ever reach that level of understanding. We can’t even accurately predict the weather. So I think it’s a waste of time to argue the existence of God based on our scientific knowledge.

Forming your beliefs based on our understanding of the universe is not smart at all because we know very little.

"Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding." - Proverbs 3:5
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I love science and I’m a very scientific thinking person, but science is not even remotely close to proving or disproving the existence of God or specifically how we were created.
 
r3p1v said:
Our current scientific knowledge and understanding of the universe isn’t enough to prove or disprove the existence of God or explain specifically how we were created. I don’t think we will ever reach that level of understanding. We can’t even accurately predict the weather. So I think it’s a waste of time to argue the existence of God based on our scientific knowledge.

Forming your beliefs based on our understanding of the universe is not smart at all because we know very little.

I love science and I’m a very scientific thinking person, but science is not even remotely close to proving or disproving the existence of God or specifically how we were created.
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I agree and I don't think it will be any time soon, that's why most logical thinkers are atheists.
 
xentech said:
I agree and I don't think it will be any time soon, that's why most logical thinkers are atheists.
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Atheism is the belief that this is no God, agnosticism is the belief that it can't be proven or disproven.

I can kind of understand how people can be agnostic, but not atheist.
 
r3p1v said:
Atheism is the belief that this is no God, agnosticism is the belief that it can't be proven or disproven.

I can kind of understand how people can be agnostic, but not atheist.
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Atheism is the lack of belief in a God, not necessarily the belief that he doesn't exist. I neither believe that he does or does not exist, IE I have a lack of a belief.

I always thought the definitions were a bit stupid since they cross over, because I also believe that it's impossible to prove beyond doubt that he does or does not exist.

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I can kind of understand how people can be agnostic, but not atheist.
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I don't get that at all. Why is absolutely believing (without evidence) that God does not exist any more ridiculous then absolutely believing (without evidence) that he does?
 
xentech said:
I don't get that at all. Why is absolutely believing (without evidence) that God does not exist any more ridiculous then absolutely believing (without evidence) that he does?
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I kind of see agnosticism as being in between atheism and theism. So for what I write below I'm defining atheism as belief that there is no God.

I think most atheists use their own understanding and scientific knowledge to form a belief that God doesn't exist. Using our own understanding to form a belief that God doesn't exist is doing so with very little scientific knowledge. I don't believe that our scientific knowledge is anywhere close to proving or disproving the existence of God.

I'm not using our scientific knowledge to form my belief that God exists. I'm using faith that he exists. I guess you could say that faith is ridiculous and doesn't make sense, but that is not what I believe. If that is what you believe, then from your viewpoint I guess each side would be equally ridiculous.
 
No one here is a Christian.

Period.

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Just like no one here is an Atheist.


We are all agnostic, cause none of us don't know didly squat.
(confusing double negatives thrown in for emphasis)
 
r3p1v said:
I kind of see agnosticism as being in between atheism and theism. So for what I write below I'm defining atheism as belief that there is no God.

I think most atheists use their own understanding and scientific knowledge to form a belief that God doesn't exist. Using our own understanding to form a belief that God doesn't exist is doing so with very little scientific knowledge. I don't believe that our scientific knowledge is anywhere close to proving or disproving the existence of God.

I'm not using our scientific knowledge to form my belief that God exists. I'm using faith that he exists. I guess you could say that faith is ridiculous and doesn't make sense, but that is not what I believe. If that is what you believe, then from your viewpoint I guess each side would be equally ridiculous.
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So you don't think that believing in God without any evidence is ridiculous but you do think not believing in God without any evidence is ridiculous, we've already established this. My question is why?
 
xentech said:
So you don't think that believing in God without any evidence is ridiculous but you do think not believing in God without any evidence is ridiculous, we've already established this. My question is why?
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I think that not believing in God based on scientific evidence is ridiculous.
 
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Emotions specific to humans - love, passion, greed, jealousy, a need to create/design, a need to connect, a need to confess (get rid of that rock in your chest, we all have one)
If you never experienced another level in your spirituality its hard to believe in anything like that.
 
Where's god here?
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Is this gods idea of a joke?
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Even Vishnu is a bit of a joker himself,
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rest is here.. www.oshkoshfreethinkers.org - Intelligent Design

Basically an expansion of what I was saying on how fucked we are. Special intelligently designed creations my ass. How bout all the religious keyboard warriors on wickedfire gets out of their house and try to convince those kids that there's a god that intelligently designed them. Your frail logic and weak emotions would buckle at the very sight of one of those kids.

Even if religion makes you happy, even if you think it makes you a better person - it's still only an emotional crutch that you were either born in or led to believe in after a series of emotionally stressful events in their life. If you're the above two examples you will never have a coherent argument or unbiased example of why you believe, rendering your opinions useless in the face of truth.

There's two options from here on in, either you will eventually grow up and let go of the fairy tales or persist in your emotional world of delusions and still be worm poop within the month when your time comes. I'd much rather see the world for what it is, same outcome either way.
 
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Man see outside appearance, but God looks inside the Man. This is theology already. There is a reason for death, age, and sickness. That would be another topic.
 
r3p1v said:
I think that not believing in God based on scientific evidence is ridiculous.
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I'd agree to an extent, however if you take the Bible (for example) literally then a lot of what is said in it has now become obsolete through scientific explanation, so I don't think coming to the conclusion that the Bible and Christian representation of God being false is so ridiculous.

Rusky said:
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Emotions specific to humans - love, passion, greed, jealousy, a need to create/design, a need to connect, a need to confess (get rid of that rock in your chest, we all have one)
If you never experienced another level in your spirituality its hard to believe in anything like that.
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We all have that need, but some of us need religion to help us with that, others don't.
 
zimok said:
Where's god here?
450progeriaXX_thekiss.jpg


Is this gods idea of a joke?
jean2.jpg


Even Vishnu is a bit of a joker himself,
vishnutoddler.jpg

rest is here.. www.oshkoshfreethinkers.org - Intelligent Design

Basically an expansion of what I was saying on how fucked we are. Special intelligently designed creations my ass. How bout all the religious keyboard warriors on wickedfire gets out of their house and try to convince those kids that there's a god that intelligently designed them. Your frail logic and weak emotions would buckle at the very sight of one of those kids.

Even if religion makes you happy, even if you think it makes you a better person - it's still only an emotional crutch that you were either born in or led to believe in after a series of emotionally stressful events in their life. If you're the above two examples you will never have a coherent argument or unbiased example of why you believe, rendering your opinions useless in the face of truth.

There's two options from here on in, either you will eventually grow up and let go of the fairy tales or persist in your emotional world of delusions and still be worm poop within the month when your time comes. I'd much rather see the world for what it is, same outcome either way.
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lol i'm confused. Are you pro evolutionary mutations but anti birth defects?
 
I thought this thread was about the wacked up stuff in revelations! I want to be reading about the end of time and how its to do with the polar caps flipping and stuff and that the world will not really 'end'... we can discuss about the existence of god another day.

The point I think was...for whatever reason, whomever wrote revelations...some parts are 'super trippy'.

On a side not the cyclic nature that you mentioned Eli, ie universe went bang and then expanded...retracted and rebang...you got a link to that article etc or was it your own speculation?
 
Anything that is taken as fact without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

There goes your invisible friend.

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