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LMSInc.

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Hey guys and gals...

I've been looking into taking some Krav Maga courses lately, but I wanted to see if anyone here had any input on the methods...

I've never had any formal fight training, and never been a particularly violent person, but I have saved my own ass in a few very unlucky situations (disarmed someone whom was swinging a baseball bat; disarmed someone whom was carrying a knife; had to stab someone in the face to free myself from being pummled by multiple gang members), but I would like more training.

I am not looking for a slow disciplinary course, I want something that will help me be quick, and ruthless.

The world is getting worse, and I want to get better at making it through the day in one piece.

So, any recommendations?

My uncle was a military E&E, Rescue, Weapons, and Combat trainer for 23 years... Maybe I should ask him... But until then, what do you guys have to say?
 


ive studied bjj, muay thai and judo for years. agree - bjj is very good as most fights do wind up on the ground. it is also easily the most grueling martial art out there and will get you in sick shape. only place that bjj falls a bit short is defending against multiple attackers. you dont want to put a guy in an arm bar and snap his shoulder if his buddy is about to kick you in the back of the head.
 
At the minimum get a heavy bag and practice on that.

But if you want to be really badass, fight the tree in your backyard. Will turn your punches and kicks into mean motherfuckers. Sounds weird, but wait til you fight somebody who does that.
 
I did Karate for a year and always enjoyed it. My teacher was VERY focused on actual fighting and sparring and we only did the basic Katas and stuff like that.

I could take down a guy 50 lbs bigger then me (did it several times in training) if he had no or little training.

Would bjj actually be all that helpful in a bar fight etc? My contingency plan for a fight of is to kick the other person in the knee and break it. No way anyone will keep fighting that way and I can get out of there as quickly as possible.
Bjj always looks like it will take way too long for most bar fight situations but also looks like a great time.
 
good point on the tree. acting like you're about to hit something and actually hitting something are two totally different things. need to build up the fists.

re bar fights and bjj it depends upon the school. if it's a school that teaches entries and takedowns, yes. if it's a school where you spend all your time working guard, maybe not so much.

that's one of the things i like about judo. learn shitloads of takedowns and enough ground technique to choke a dude out.
 
BJJ is my favorite, but you need to pair it up with some Muay Thai if you're using it for street defense.

I hear that Krav Maga is great, but only if you find a good school. I guess the same is true for BJJ though.
 
ThatSwissIMGuy said:
I did Karate for a year and always enjoyed it. My teacher was VERY focused on actual fighting and sparring and we only did the basic Katas and stuff like that.

I could take down a guy 50 lbs bigger then me (did it several times in training) if he had no or little training.

Would bjj actually be all that helpful in a bar fight etc? My contingency plan for a fight of is to kick the other person in the knee and break it. No way anyone will keep fighting that way and I can get out of there as quickly as possible.
Bjj always looks like it will take way too long for most bar fight situations but also looks like a great time.
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I'm not sure if this applies to every bjj school but takedowns are part of the game. If you can take a guy down and get on top, you've pretty much won. If I were to be in a street fight, I would take him down and rain down punches on him.

With that said, I would try to be an adult and avoid fights.
 
DTAlexONE said:
I'm not sure if this applies to every bjj school but takedowns are part of the game. If you can take a guy down and get on top, you've pretty much won. If I were to be in a street fight, I would take him down and rain down punches on him.

With that said, I would try to be an adult and avoid fights.
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That's my whole point though. If I get into a fight I don't want to be in (some bar fights, robbery etc.) I wouldn't want to do a take down and then choke the guy. I want to kick him and run like hell because chances are there are 5 more guys right around the corner that will come and kick my ass if I did a bjj take down. Hence my knee kicking plan.
 
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I've done Kyokushin (black belt) + Muay Thai and a bit of Judo when I was really young. If I was to start again I'd get into BJJ for sure, to round things out. Krav Maga seems pretty good too.

These days its all about tai chi for me though.. Done properly it can kick ass for fighting, but its extremely rare to find a school that teaches the fighting or where the teacher even understands it... The only people I know who can use tai chi for fighting have trained for 20+ years, but damn they're awesome.
 
ChrisS said:
BJJ is my favorite, but you need to pair it up with some Muay Thai if you're using it for street defense.
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agreed.. i boxed for several years and wish i had a little more ground tactics.. but in about 99% of street fights one good punch to the face/nose and its game over.. very rare is there a drunk shit talking moron who can take a punch..
 
some friends of mine are into "nazi hunting". they basically go for larger groups of skins and fight 'til nobody stands straight.

one time they ran into a group of football hooligans who were high on whatever which turned out to be a problem since they kept standing up even with their mouths all bloody and shit.

they do khmer boxing.
 
I took Muay Thai for awhile and I feel it's the best for street fighting. Most fights are only going to be a few punches (if you know what you're doing). I don't get where you guys think most street fights end up on the ground. If a guy knocks you down how often do you see him jump in for an omoplata? haha

He's just going to stand there and try and kick you in the head. Just learn to get your legs between him and your head and defend yourself.
 
khirz said:
I took Muay Thai for awhile and I feel it's the best for street fighting. Most fights are only going to be a few punches (if you know what you're doing). I don't get where you guys think most street fights end up on the ground. If a guy knocks you down how often do you see him jump in for an omoplata? haha

He's just going to stand there and try and kick you in the head. Just learn to get your legs between him and your head and defend yourself.
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It goes to the ground but he won't necessarily try to put you in a submission. He'll mount you. If you know what you're doing at the bottom, you can escape when the guy mounts you. If you're the one who ends up on top, you can prevent him from sweeping you, maintaining that position and pounding on him. Jiu Jitsu is not only knowing how to apply submissions but also how to transition from positions to positions. In this case, going from a bad position to an advantageous one.
 
LMSInc. said:
Hey guys and gals...

I've been looking into taking some Krav Maga courses lately, but I wanted to see if anyone here had any input on the methods...

I've never had any formal fight training, and never been a particularly violent person, but I have saved my own ass in a few very unlucky situations (disarmed someone whom was swinging a baseball bat; disarmed someone whom was carrying a knife; had to stab someone in the face to free myself from being pummled by multiple gang members), but I would like more training.

I am not looking for a slow disciplinary course, I want something that will help me be quick, and ruthless.

The world is getting worse, and I want to get better at making it through the day in one piece.

So, any recommendations?

My uncle was a military E&E, Rescue, Weapons, and Combat trainer for 23 years... Maybe I should ask him... But until then, what do you guys have to say?
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here's the problem with training like that - you are being taught how to fight someone one on one in a controlled environment. you are learning under no real threat of danger, and the adrenaline high you get when fighting in a ring and getting a street fight are totally different.

i have seen friends of mine who have never got a second of training beat up people who have been training for years. the mentality that you have for street fighting is much different then that of a controlled fight, and the only thing that goes through your head is "it's either me or him".

and to the people who are saying use weapons - don't ever pull out a weapon unless you are fully willing to use it. i've seen people pull bats out of their cars and one second of hesitation got them being beat down on the pavement with their own bat. same thing with guns - if you're going to pull a gun out on someone you better be damn willing to use it. yes, it's easy to say i would shoot someone but when push comes to shove, could you really pull the trigger?

sorry for being the negative nancy.
 
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