Email Submit Publishers - 1K Weekly And How To Get There

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Excellent Falian!

Outstanding to see you taking action. I'm not going to ruin it for you but I think your gonna shit when you see the possibilities of using this. If they own a forum then it's likely they know of even more places as well and this will save you a ton of time in research alone. As for payments, I've personally sent checks and even wires but typically I like to have them have a Paypal account where I can setup a subscription. It's easy to walk them thru it and your basically showing them each and every month, your getting your money. You know where it's going to be and when. All this really is renting web estates. The more you can process and manage, the more you are going to make.

Keep us updated here if you would. I know a lot of people sitting on the fence not comfortable with this will only be more inspired to take action if they can see you doing it.
 


Ruck said:
When approaching these webmasters that own communities you need to come off as a professional. Coming off as an affiliate marketer is not really a good idea (from experience). I can tell you write now that if you already conduct your business on a serious level, they are going to take you seriously.
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I'm definitely doing this. I've got my offer and forums picked out, I'm just not really sure of what to say in my email to the webmasters... Like you said, I don't want to come off sounding like just an affiliate marketer. Could you give an example of an email that you would use when approaching the webmasters?
 
Example:

Hi (whoever),

My name is Ruck and I work with (company name) a full service ad agency. I came across your forum browsing on the web and was wondering if you would be interested in allowing our company to sponsor a sticky post for 30 days? We have done this many forums before and we feel your forum would also be a great fit for such a sponsorship. My phone number is (number). You can call me and we can discuss this further or if you would like to provide your number I could give you a ring. In case you are wondering, this is an extremely easy process and will allow you to make money upfront with just a minute or two of posting our message. If this works out and you are interested we can also discuss a monthly payment to you for more sponsorships.

Please give me a call at (number) and we can discuss your ad rates and allow me to give you a little background on our company.

Thanks,
Ruck
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Example of Emailing the forum:

Hi (whoever),

Our sponsorship last month ran pretty good with your forum. Our company would like to inquire about possibly sponsoring an email message to your members. Do your forum members receive email from Administrators? If so we would love to discuss even more sponsorships with you to allow you to make even more money. Please call me at (number) or I can call you if you would prefer.

Thanks,
Ruck
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These are really just the primers to get owners interested. You should mention how dead simple this is for them and how they can be paid up front. You should also stress that you are looking to make multiple sponsorships and that puts "expectation" in their mind. These owners see that a consistent income will be coming in and they are likely to not focus on the advertising in itself.

You are a marketer. It's your job to keep these owners from thinking about the advertising and asking fucking questions that are going to soak up your day. You should explain what you want to advertise only if they ask. If they do ask, you simply tell them your company is providing a "sponsorship". This is deception but that's what we do. We are not actually lying here but we are evading the exclusive truth. In essence you ARE doing a sponsorship and that is all that needs to be said. If they start asking where you get the offers, how do you get paid, you got to pull some 360 ninja shit on em and get them back to thinking about the money and the few minutes they are going to spend making it.

If you find yourself in a Rev-Share situation, just use your fucking head. I'm not the king dick of forum advertising but I've damn sure done enough of it to advise starting affiliates to steer clear from this. A Rev-Share CAN BE GOOD though. Some of the best advertising has come from Rev-Sharing with owners. When you get them in that position they usually dont give a fuck what you advertise but it takes some work and flash to get to that point.

Just get them on the phone, be personable, tell them how easy it is and that you are looking to do repeat business with them. It's going to be odd at first but so was losing your virginity and now 99% of people love to screw and that is exactly how your going to feel once you do this once successfully.
 
Ruck said:
It's going to be odd at first but so was losing your virginity and now 99% of people love to screw and that is exactly how your going to feel once you do this once successfully.
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Fuckin' classic!

I'm looking forward to testing this out very soon, I'll post back with soem results. Thanks for the awesome thread, I'll definitely be signing up with you guys soon.
 
It's the fact that someone would actually package this up and sell it that I would throw this out there. Such things as this should be talked about over open-bar or at least in Wickedfire where people will put it to use.
 
Good info, just contacted every webmasters i know(for my niche). I have a question though. How to deal with international users? What's the best way to rotate the offers based on their geo?

Testing them out... Don't know if it'd be better result collecting leads with incentive offers instead(like the zip/email advertiser offer)
 
You could rotate however you like if you are sending them to a site/page. Honestly never once even bothered about it. I simply focused on US forums for US offers. Of course I probably could have internationals I could have capitalized off of but I seriously did not even bother.
 
(I am not trying to hijack the thread but rather to provide another method that really goes along with Ruck's Method)

First off, I can be greedy sometimes, so naturally I didn't want many people finding out about this. Then I realized two things (which you all already know): That the internet is so large you can have many competitors and be fine, and that if we work together (the purpose of this forum) we can all increase each others revenue. It's also ironic that I was greedy over an idea that wasn't even mine :P.

My first thought when analyzing this method was "The admin of these forums can very easily just take my idea and use it themselves to monetize their forum." Yet, any smart admin won't do this for an obvious reason. You are bringing them a more effective way to bring monetize their forum. If they take your idea and cut you off, they lose your ingenuity in the long run.

Also, the great thing i'm predicting with this method (I say predicting because I'm waiting to get approved by some damn CPA's) is the ability to provide results to future customers. You can go right into a conversation with a forum administrator and say "Look here, I am currently working with X forum, which is similar in size to yours, and they make XXX a month off of this through all advertising streams." When you can pop a big number in their head, things start rolling like a fat lady doing the truffle shuffle.

To get to my original purpose of this post, a new idea to further make money through forum admins. I'm currently digging around for a mod (someone could help! haha) that if created, we can manipulate for profit, and if not created, it should be relatively easy to make one. The mod would be applied to the forum and basically "locks" every users ability to edit/use their signature and instead allows the admin to put up a global signature on every user.

Essentially, this mod would allow you to inject your affiliate link/mini-spiel into EVERY post on the forum. This means you are receiving a lot more impressions and, as I'm sure most forums do, everytime big threads get high on SE searches your link is on every single post.

Your thoughts on this?
 
Essentially, this mod would allow you to inject your affiliate link/mini-spiel into EVERY post on the forum. This means you are receiving a lot more impressions and, as I'm sure most forums do, everytime big threads get high on SE searches your link is on every single post.

Your thoughts on this?
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Hmm, I dont really know, you can take it as far as you want it. All we have done is advertise thru forums by every means we could think of. We have a ton of other businesses to maintain so going that far was never an idea although I can see your logic behind it. If your happy with the roi the first time around then there is no reason to stretch the limits and broaden the threshhold. We look at forums as just another source of paid advertising which we incorporate into our overall marketing plans for offers. We take what we can get, when we can get it and the only reason I came out and talked about it is because I personally know it works and I've helped countless people make it work for them also.

If you start thinking about injecting affiliate links into forums then your really going against what has been shared (nothing wrong with that) but the whole idea is to hold a professional image and this means holding promotions which are not going to bring on too many problems. You start injecting Aff links I cannot tell you what will happen other than possibly ruining that opportunity with that community.

@1webhost - Your welcome. Thanks for taking the time and posting the wonderful 1-liner.
 
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Essentially, this mod would allow you to inject your affiliate link/mini-spiel into EVERY post on the forum. This means you are receiving a lot more impressions and, as I'm sure most forums do, everytime big threads get high on SE searches your link is on every single post.
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That's a great idea, but I could see that as getting and looking very spammy. Some forums do that anyways - plaster a 728x90 brick below EVERY single post. I realize this wouldn't be as large but if you had "FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN GET 69 RED BULLZ FREE" on every single post, it would start to get annoying.

It would be great, I think, if they could somehow do it every other post, or some sort of alternation so it didn't lose it's value.
 
Ok, I've got a sponsored sticky up and running. The first forum owner actually replied within like an hour of me contacting him. He was very interested and asked for the sticky content and a price I had in mind. I wasn't even ready yet so I grabbed a domain and threw the offer on it. I emailed the sticky to him and a price and he agreed.

The forum has over 75,000 members and is as targeted as it can get to the offer. It turns out that the owner has a whole lot of forums in different niches and wants to know if I'm interested in sponsoring those as well. So just with this one first email I sent out, I now have the option to run many different stickies on other forums.

So now I'm going to sit back and see what happens. I'll post the results here when I get some. This was ridiculously easy to do!
 
The forum has over 75,000 members and is as targeted as it can get to the offer. It turns out that the owner has a whole lot of forums in different niches and wants to know if I'm interested in sponsoring those as well. So just with this one first email I sent out, I now have the option to run many different stickies on other forums.
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Exact reason I posted this here. Since the day I posted this I've talked to at least 2 dozen marketers by email, AIM and phone now. Most of them were a little squimish at first so I kind of coaxed them into this. Now you see! 75,000 members and they own more forums? That is a gold mine if worked properly. I'm curious as to what you paid but dont share that if you dont want to. Like I have said, all this really takes is some marketing savvy and persuasion and you will rarely get turned down. If your a savvy, persuasive type person, you can own a TON of forum real estate if your organized or got a partner helping on the leg work.

This was ridiculously easy to do!
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Exactly. I'll keep saying it too. I've done the PPC Polls, I've even done youtube videos as an affiliate but I never once touched on such an effective way to promote email submits as I did with forums. Since moving away from PPC quite a bit (still doing some but not as much) I really have been on the hunt for more ways to promote online. I've got a hell of an offline method to use to that I think I will bring out here after I get back from AdTech. This can go on and on and on and you usually end up with a large number to test. I mean 75,000 forum members? Figure the time it would have took along with expenses to pay for the traffic from a Search Engine. Not many starting affiliates have the patience, capital or tolerance for such testing. Here you can jump right in and make money on Day 1.

Good for you WebWonder. Keep us updated. Awesome to see you and the others I've spoken with taking action!
 
Thanks Ruck. He said he has about 20 forums. Topics include pregnancy, credit cards, coffee, insurance, women's health, men's health, automobiles, dogs, etc. I'm going to wait a few days and see how this turns out. The dude obviously knows how to create some nice communities. The only thing he's using on them at the moment is adsense.

Ruck, do you guys have many email submits in your network? The least I can do is send some traffic through your network for turning me on to this.
 
Ruck: Would this be a good idea?

Find a forum owner with under 25,000 members in a highly tight knit community whose members are obsessive about their hobby or whatever. Approach forum owner and ask, right off the bat, about mailing a campaign to their members. Or is it better to go through the motions in order to get to that point?

My reasoning for this is that if their membership is under 25,000, they possibly could be starving for some income and may agree to an email campaign. Also, if its a very tight-knit forum with a lot of activity, conversions could be fairly good.

I'm going to test it regardless, but just wanted your opinion. I'm also signing up on your network.
 
@assi9 - It's whatever you are comfortable with. I put this the exact way I started doing it because when I first did it, I had no idea really what I was doing. Stickies and mailing members was not created by me nor do I hope anyone thinks I came up with this. I simply did not. I just put this here because there had been a lot of talk about paying for traffic on email submits and not lasting very long. I thought I would throw some things out there to help. You can start however you like, there is nothing etched in stone saying you have to do it this way or that. I just put it that way for the really new marketers as a way to progress.

Keep us updated on your results!
 
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