Global warming not happening?

Ok, so I trust the scientific process here, here...and here. But that shit right there? Nah that's just crazy talk!

I don't know anyone who wants to live in a polluted environment but get told to clean up their shit and heaps of people have a sook.
 


Fatbat said:
Make money. Fuck bitches. Close thread.
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Fraggler said:
Ok, so I trust the scientific process here, here...and here. But that shit right there? Nah that's just crazy talk!

I don't know anyone who wants to live in a polluted environment but get told to clean up their shit and heaps of people have a sook.
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Have you bothered to look at the ClimateGate files that were leaked a few years back? I did. In fact I downloaded a copy the day they were released and spent a good bit of time looking at the code those shitty "scientists" were using for their climate models and reading their e-mails.

Most of the global warming scientists are little more than political activists that are masquerading as scientists. They're using science to try to legitimize their political agenda.

That's not the core of my beef with those bastards though. I hate all those hippy bastards who are trying to save the earth by fucking things up for everyone else. Really, a 3ft rise is sea levels over the course of a century or 2 isn't shit. We humans at our core are nomads, wanderers... yet people are flipping their shit over the possibility that something might change and decades or centuries from now we might have to relocate some of our coastal cities slightly inland from where they are now. Like it's fucking impossible to rebuild any of the crap modern construction that we're already going to have to rebuild anyways by that time.

Besides that piddly bullshit there's the fact that within 50 years we will have a satellite weather control system in place. By simply blocking sunlight or reflecting additional sunlight you can precisely control the amount of heat in the atmosphere. This allows you to control not only surface and ocean temperatures, but also manipulate weather patterns. It would cost trillions of dollars to build and launch such a system now. However, in a few short decades, things like nanotech materials and cheaper launch costs will allow us to build a system like that costing only billions of dollars. At that point it will be cheaper to build it than not. The military potential alone ensures that it will be done.
 
papajohn56 said:
while I'm not a global warming denier, you can't make a trend line from one data point.
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There's decades of data.

Too bad VICE deleted their season 3 premier off Youtube, because it was excellent. They were in Greenland last year, and this year went to Antarctica. NASA has a huge mission down there, including a massive DC-8 plane retrofitted with tons of tools to measure the ice sheets.

They'll fly at exactly 1500 feet, then start firing several different lasers at the ice sheets. It measures the height of ice vs. sea level, and also the density of the ice. Various parts of Antarctica are currently rescinding at about 1km/year, which is extraordinarily fast.
 
Kiopa_Matt said:
There's decades of data.

Too bad VICE deleted their season 3 premier off Youtube, because it was excellent. They were in Greenland last year, and this year went to Antarctica. NASA has a huge mission down there, including a massive DC-8 plane retrofitted with tons of tools to measure the ice sheets.

They'll fly at exactly 1500 feet, then start firing several different lasers at the ice sheets. It measures the height of ice vs. sea level, and also the density of the ice. Various parts of Antarctica are currently rescinding at about 1km/year, which is extraordinarily fast.
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this isn't me denying the data, this is me saying the headlines about the record hot day are stupid. That's all. I know all the data.
 
Decades of data out of 4.5 billion years? I don't think that's a sufficient sample size. Investigate Climategate.

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Kiopa_Matt said:
There's decades of data.

Too bad VICE deleted their season 3 premier off Youtube, because it was excellent. They were in Greenland last year, and this year went to Antarctica. NASA has a huge mission down there, including a massive DC-8 plane retrofitted with tons of tools to measure the ice sheets.

They'll fly at exactly 1500 feet, then start firing several different lasers at the ice sheets. It measures the height of ice vs. sea level, and also the density of the ice. Various parts of Antarctica are currently rescinding at about 1km/year, which is extraordinarily fast.
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concensus lol

Concensus science is political science. Not long ago it was concensus science that the earth is flat.

Those who use concensus as a basis for their positions are not basing it on science but on trust of popularity.
 
I'll just leave this here:

The bros at The Club of Rome back in 1991 said:
Because of the sudden absence of traditional enemies, new enemies must be identified. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.
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I would trust the scientist that goes against conventional wisdom, government grants, and university bureaucracies when expressing their findings.

The Global Warming industry in the research grant game is huge with hundreds of millions of dollars pouring into the academic world from governments and foundations. The "settled science" myth is born out of economic necessity and greed dressed up in righteous indignation to entice the followers of "Mother Earth". Plus, spending the hundreds of millions of dollars gives these politicians tremendous power as they fly around in their private jets.

The Catholic Church used these same levers and tactics in the Middle Ages and we look at them with scorn and derision. Just think of the phrase "the Earth is flat" for proof. Galileo was brought up on heresy charges for his scientific findings.

The Earth and it's biosphere is much greater than anything us puny humans can do to it. Volcanic activity will hinder the atmosphere to a much greater degree than we will with our polution. And the Earth does not look at cycles in 10's of years, but in tens of thousands of years.

Humankind is a blip on the radar. We are insignificant, and any damage we will do will be wiped from the surface in 100,000 years.

So live, prosper, and don't let the academics get you down.
 
I live in California. We only have a year's worth of water left for the entire state. Ask me if I give a crap about what the ice caps are doing?
 
efeezy said:
I live in California. We only have a year's worth of water left for the entire state.
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That sounds like fear-mongering from NASA's water guy.

Seems to me if people were made to pay for the water they use, there wouldn't be an impending shortage. Or at least, supplies could be restored. If there's a drought or supply is low, just raise the price.

Instead, there's all kinds of bullshit that screws up the market for water.
 
Give 1 cubic meter of water for free for each house member + 1 extra for house.
So 4 people family would get 5 cubic meters of water.
Enough to survive.
Then for anything above use compounding - each extra cubic meter is more expensive.
So you will remain your constitutional right to survive (enough water for that) but since water is scarce, water wasters would be hit in the wallet the most.

Idiotic idea to just rise prices for everyone no matter of the usage.
 
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