Global warming not happening?



lol, raise the price? Really?

It's water, dude. It's a necessity, not a luxury or commodity.

You want free water? Go get it yourself. You want the luxury of having a safe, sanitized product pumped into your house? It takes a massive infrastructure to do that which needs to be paid for.

Survival is a constitutional right? Please quote the article and section of the U.S. constitution. Thanks.

Maybe not the constitution, but the Declaration Of Independence says...

"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" is a well-known phrase in the United States Declaration of Independence. The phrase gives three examples of the "unalienable rights" which the Declaration says has been given to all human beings by their Creator, and for which governments are created to protect.

Other than the constitutional misquote, I think Patrick's idea about how to bill people that use excessive amounts of water is spot on. Those added monies should go towards improving infrastructure, which is another place massive amounts of water is lost. For example, in the UK they estimate 50% of the country's water is lost through old leaking infrastructure.
 
That sounds like fear-mongering from NASA's water guy.

Seems to me if people were made to pay for the water they use, there wouldn't be an impending shortage. Or at least, supplies could be restored. If there's a drought or supply is low, just raise the price.

Instead, there's all kinds of bullshit that screws up the market for water.

While I don't think there's 100% truth in the "1 year of water left" statement, I will say that the price of water has gone up drastically, at least here in San Diego County. My water (+sewer) bill is close to $300 a month, and that's in the Winter months, when lawn watering is minimal. They have us on water rationing now. You can only run your exterior irrigation tues, thurs, sat. for no more than 5 minutes per watering zone. My bill will be $500/month this summer. Showers, washing machine, dish washer etc. are not used excessively. We just pay a shit load per unit of water here. Yet, we're still in a drought and Sacramento doesn't seem to have any reasonable solution in sight. We're told it's a water crisis, yet the elected officials sure don't act like there's a crisis.
 
You want free water? Go get it yourself. You want the luxury of having a safe, sanitized product pumped into your house? It takes a massive infrastructure to do that which needs to be paid for.

We had big protests in Detroit about this last year, with useless marches and all that other shit. Apparently, you could get away with not paying your water bills in the City of Detroit for years. Like, it was basically optional so people had thousand dollar water bills because they never bothered paying. New mayor takes over after the bankruptcy and is like "Ya'll motherfuckers need to pay yo bills".

Shutoff notices went out and you would think slavery was reinstated. There were marches and protests and random retard celebrities chimed in with how water is a human right blah blah blah. Making people pay for water is racist apparently. Of course, everyone in the suburbs had been paying their water bills like clockwork, but this was clearly racist because Detroit.

Finally, someone pointed out that you can have all the water you want for free. We live in Michigan, surrounded by the largest source of fresh water on the planet. Take your ass down to the Detroit river with a bucket and help yourself. You want it sanitized and pumped directly to your house then you need to pay for that service.

For fucks sake.
 
650-Year Drought Triggered Ancient City's Abandonment

A once-thriving Mesoamerican metropolis dried up about 1,000 years ago when below-average rainfall triggered centuries-long droughts that largely prompted people to abandon the city for greener opportunities, a new study finds.

In its heyday, about 90,000 people lived in Cantona, which is located in a dry volcanic basin.

But people deserted the city between A.D. 900 and A.D. 1050, research shows.

Overall, Cantona still had wet summers and dry winters, but its regular monsoon season was disturbed by frequent long-term droughts, which likely harmed the area's crops and water supply, the researchers said.

Moreover, the droughts lasted hundreds of years.

A 650-year period of frequent droughts plagued the area from about A.D. 500 to about A.D. 1150, they found.

This dry period wasn't isolated, but part of a period of droughts in modern-day Mexico's highlands that lasted from about 200 B.C. until A.D. 1300, just before the Aztec empire took power.

The study was published online Jan. 26 in the journal the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

1) lol decades lol

2) Not much human impact on the atmosphere was possible during any of the dates discussed, considering it was pre industrial revolution era.

3) Climates change on a rock with a sealed atmosphere spinning through a vacuum with a natural oscillation to it's semi-circular path around a heat source large enough to create desert conditions on said rock from 150 million kilometers away. Go figure.

Certainly a heat source like that could never waver in intensity even a little bit, right? The little bit necessary to raise our temps by a few degrees and put everyone in a panic?

Keep on sheepin, sheeple.
 
650-Year Drought Triggered Ancient City's Abandonment

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But people deserted the city between A.D. 900 and A.D. 1050, research shows.

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A 650-year period of frequent droughts plagued the area from about A.D. 500 to about A.D. 1150, they found.
Keep on sheepin, sheeple.

So they lived through hundreds of years of drought and left just as things were about to get better? Sounds like a human.

(Phys.org)—A team of researchers with members from Mexico, the U.S. and Germany has found that the demise of the pre-Columbian Mesoamerican society centered around a city known as Cantona, was likely due to a combination of weather and politics.

The researchers note that little work has been done to gain an accurate portrayal of what the climate was like in Mesoamerica during the times when various early people lived there, creating civilizations that in many cases vanished leaving behind ruins for modern scientists to ponder.

There is currently no consensus on the importance of climate change in Mesoamerican prehistory.
 
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While I don't think there's 100% truth in the "1 year of water left" statement, I will say that the price of water has gone up drastically, at least here in San Diego County. My water (+sewer) bill is close to $300 a month, and that's in the Winter months, when lawn watering is minimal. They have us on water rationing now. You can only run your exterior irrigation tues, thurs, sat. for no more than 5 minutes per watering zone. My bill will be $500/month this summer. Showers, washing machine, dish washer etc. are not used excessively. We just pay a shit load per unit of water here. Yet, we're still in a drought and Sacramento doesn't seem to have any reasonable solution in sight. We're told it's a water crisis, yet the elected officials sure don't act like there's a crisis.

Wow

I live in California. We only have a year's worth of water left for the entire state. Ask me if I give a crap about what the ice caps are doing?



Double Wow.


I am sure this thread is full of multiple examples of this type of thinking, but these posts struck me for some reason. You would think after all your time around WF you would know when you are being played by Politics.

The Man-Made California Drought - House Committee on Natural Resources

Because of this ruling, in 2009 and 2010 more than 300 billion gallons (or 1 million acre-feet) of water were diverted away from farmers in the Central Valley and into the San Francisco Bay – eventually going out into the Pacific Ocean.

While on the subject of the Ocean, there's this little thing called Desalinization. Do not talk to me about cost, many countries use it. I wonder if maybe the people who own water rights have something to do with stopping desalinization? I mean, how fast would their cash cow run out if no one used their water any longer due to DeSalinization?

California Century-Old Water Rights Profit From Drought - Bloomberg Business
 
I live in California. We only have a year's worth of water left for the entire state. Ask me if I give a crap about what the ice caps are doing?

The LA Times misconstrued the NASA guy's comment:

What this NASA scientist meant about California having a year of water left

Famiglietti (NASA guy): The online headline, written (and now corrected) by the LA Times, was misleading. It originally read "California has 1 year of water left," which I did not write nor did I intend to convey. My real point: at the time of writing, statewide, California's surface water reservoirs held about a year's worth of water supply, perhaps plus or minus a couple of months.

Of course, our surface water reservoirs are not designed to provide long-term water supply, and really cannot hold more than about 3 year's worth. So after 3 years of drought, it is understandable that our reservoirs are very low.

However, we are at no risk of running out of water any time soon, since we have decades worth of groundwater in our aquifers.

Also, about 80% of the water in California is used by agriculture. Growing fruits, vegetables, and nuts in the desert is probably not a feasible idea. I have a feeling that some sort of government distortion is at work wrt farming.

Moreover, the monopolists at the state's water boards should have built more reservoirs and whatnot to store more water. And instead of spending about $70 billion of tax dollars on high-speed rail that very few people will use, they should spend it on water desalination plants. There's one being built in San Diego for about $1 billion.

Nation's largest ocean desalination plant goes up near San Diego; Future of the California coast? - San Jose Mercury News

Imagine 70 or so of those in California for the price of high-speed rail that no one will use.
 
How can you deny global warming. Isn't it common sense that if you pollute the environment, it's going to mess with the environment?

There was an episode on Vice about Greenland and how all of the pollution from coal burning are landing on the ice sheets. It is allowing the ice to heat up from the sunlight hitting it, and causing the ice to melt at alarming rates. This is not natural.

That to me is enough to want to stop the pollution, and move onto cleaner energies.