Google Counts "no Follow" Links for Ranking

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I have a good friend that uses almost no follow links and ranks for some crazy keywords. While most people are convinced no follow passes no link juice, closer look at his site proves otherwise.

95% of his backlinks are no-follow. He comments on high PR sites, including newspapers with just regular name anchors.

What I also noticed is that all his no-follow backlinks are niche specific, and the article content is related to his niche.

I am now conducting my own independent test, but please do not expect posting of the results.

You can either keep believing the lies that no follow offers no ranking value, or just conduct your own personal test.

Since our "BIG UNCLE SEARCH ENGINE" started hiding ranking data, mysterious things are happening in the ranking world.

Backlink volume is out, but I have also noticed more value placed on weird backlinks most people would care not to get or look for.

Just other observations:

Web 2.0 died a natural death. You can still use them, just like millions of other websites around the world. It has reached saturation point, if you know what I mean.

Anchor test don't carry much weight nowadays, just naked urls. Raw url will not get you that dreaded site audit notice.

Comments are back in a big way, if carefully done on niche specific websites. Use your imagination, you can twist it to get more value.

Editorial links are still effective, but expect massive crackdown since it is now openly sold at "BLACKHATWORLD" like crack cocaine. Some of the newspapers lost ranking from the last time I checked. Only buy from reputable sellers, like one of the original creators on this forum "daseoman". When newspapers catch on to the trend from Google actions, they will just eliminate the writers accounts along with most of the articles, and you can kiss your backlinks bye-bye.

Blog Networks are still effective, just make sure you know what you're doing as your competitor will call the ranking police on you. Niche specific blog networks are more effective in my opinion. As far as using publicly sold blog networks, let your common sense be your guide.

When you get too many social signals all at once, it will do your site no long term good. You want to get social signals just like a rat nibbles good food. Getting 200 facebook likes in a day or two, with nothing afterwards delivers no value in my opinion. I know big sites can get massive social signals with one post, but they have other metrics to help make it look legit. I sense Google can now spot fake social promotions, but I would rather not reveal the tell-tale signs in a public forum.

Submitting your backlinks to indexing sites will kill your rankings sooner rather than later. Why let Google know that you just cheated and created a bunch of links? The Algorithms are now able to follow and calculate massive link footprints, and using indexing stuff just makes it easier.
 
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It's always been this way, but has changed along with the algorithm changes in the last year or so. Google doesn't just look at link value, they look at citation value as well as relevancy of the content (amongst other things). I never gave a shit about "no follow", but I'll let the minions who follow (no pun intended) the so called "SEO gurus" continue to think this is actually important.
 
I can confirm this as well from the frequent competitor research I do.

I was surprised to find many sites with loads of no-follow backlinks and were ranking high.

I've totally ignored the metric of nofollow/do-follow ratio. It's all about niche related and quality backlinks.

Makes my job easier to build backlinks anyways.
 
It's always been this way, but has changed along with the algorithm changes in the last year or so. Google doesn't just look at link value, they look at citation value as well as relevancy of the content (amongst other things). I never gave a shit about "no follow", but I'll let the minions who follow (no pun intended) the so called "SEO gurus" continue to think this is actually important.
A lot longer than a year, people have been playing around with citations since 2012, and before that it was co-citations.

@OP I don't see many people talk about nofollow tbh. At least in most threads.
 
95% of his backlinks are no-follow. He comments on high PR sites, including newspapers with just regular name anchors.

or maybe those 5% are really good links. Hard to know, but I'm sure no-follow links don't help much, if at all. Like posting your website url on facebook. Facebook has a very high PR, but no juice is passed. Maybe social media presence can help your rankings in other ways besides PR.
 
or maybe those 5% are really good links. Hard to know, but I'm sure no-follow links don't help much, if at all. Like posting your website url on facebook. Facebook has a very high PR, but no juice is passed. Maybe social media presence can help your rankings in other ways besides PR.

lol.
 
or maybe those 5% are really good links. Hard to know, but I'm sure no-follow links don't help much, if at all. Like posting your website url on facebook. Facebook has a very high PR, but no juice is passed. Maybe social media presence can help your rankings in other ways besides PR.

Please conduct your own test. I did not mention facebook. Get comment links from articles talking about the same subject. For example, if your article is about dog sheds, find articles discussion dog related issues and comment. Google is lying when they say no-follow does not affect ranking.

Since the real ranking data cannot be truly determined because of Google actions, strange things are happening that contradicts all the bullshit pedaled by so called gurus.
 
While most people are convinced no follow passes no link juice, closer look at his site proves otherwise.

You ass-u-me without proper testing and you have blurred your assumption by calling it link juice.

The FACT that can be proven is that nofollow passes no page rank, but, the anchor is still used so they can be used to water down your keyword densities. Your friends site has a few good pr link to it giving it "juice" and nofollow links giving it the proper densities.

This is not news, been like this from the start many years ago, glad to see you are still confused about this old issue.
 
Also Google treats your brand mention as "Implied links" they even have it described in their patent

Someone from Moz blogged about this.
 
Tested it with creating new pages and only linking to them (externally) with a no-follow link, and google will visit and index that page. But I could never get it to even visit a page that was only linked with a plain text link. Did anyone had success with that, if yes, where did you place that link (your own web2.0, pbn, comments)?
 
I'm not so sure that nf links give weight in rankings, but it worth to make little testing. But, to be honest I'm little lazy these days to start with tests. If anybody made some results it would be great to share here...