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I'm just curious Joe Affiliate, what are you trying to get out of making this thread?

"How can you look at yourselves in a mirror, and how do you sleep at night?"

Do you expect everyone to answer, "You're right, what was I thinking!? I apologize and I need to take down my sites and pay back all the idiots in the world that signed up for those offers through me."

Unfortunately, I never got into Acai, grants or google money tree. But if I could go back, I would absolutely push those offers. There are tons of known businesses that do scams and you just don't know it.
 


I'm surprised to see everyone disagreeing with JA. I think he has a very valid point and would like to build on it. I think that this whole money chasing BS we all go through day in and day out is a direct reflection of just how stupid humans still are as a species. I think way too many people are too caught up in doing anything they can to make money, while forgetting about why they are here and where they are going.

This exact mentality is what has brought the whole world to its knees right now in this global depression. Rather than our world leaders spending the time to educate those that are stupid and help those in need they would much rather keep them dumbed down and profit off their slaves instead. Rather than real leadership where you take care of the weak and let go of your ego, the vast majority of people would much rather just take the selfish approach of materialism and ego. Nobody wants to actually give up a part of themselves for another person. Nobody wants to actually lose something in return for helping somebody in need, so instead they beat on the weak and neglect to see the effects this has on humans as a whole in the long run.

Sure, your average businessman is at a much smaller scale than a gangbanker, but it's all the same BS really. I'm sure the gangbankers running our world can give you a number of reasons on why collapsing the markets and consolidating is best for us, the same way a businessman can give you a number of reasons on why selling somebody a BS product is best for them.

So do I think selling BS products to a moron is bad thing? I simply find it revealing in that our species is still too stupid and selfish to want to move past it. Do you think 2,000 years from now we will still be enslaving the weak through stupidity for our own gain? Maybe, but do you really think we should be? Is it not more effective to have everyone working together?
 
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I'm curious to know what the OP thinks is a legitimate offer.
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It doesn't matter what the offer is by his standards there will be a flaw in it and is a scam in his book. I mean even by his standards credit cards are scams because they charge you money. If you didn't read the T&C then you wouldn't know that. If I sign up for anything that has terms to it and I agree to it. And I find out later that I was too lazy to actually read it.Then it is all my fault not the companies. People bitch and complain because they are way too lazy to actually read shit. Then they use the word scam.

If you sign up for a grant offer they give you info to sign up for grants. Copy all the info during the trial and cancel. How the fuck can you say that information is free. A fucking college book has info that can be found on the net for free. But they charge you a lot for it. Maybe you will learn one day that nothing is free. Then you will realize there is a price for everything. As a consumer you have a right to choose what product or service you buy. So STFU and go back living your "perfect" life. Fucking hypocrite
 
Are you a trolling Joe, cuz I think you are.

I masturbate and sleep well at night, thanks.
 
Joe Affiliate said:
To the affiliates and networks that promote this crap:

How can you look at yourselves in a mirror, and how do you sleep at night?

You know these product are scams. Defrauding people during a time when the global economy has tanked is not cool. In my opinion, you guys are just the lowest type of scum.

And no, I didn't buy any of these shitty products.
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I hate myself regardless of what I promote, so I don't own any mirrors.

I sleep under the influence of weed and booze.

I don't know that they're scams because I've never used them myself.

Fraud is taking payment for something and not providing the something. They all get something for their money. Whether or not they use it, need it, like it or benefit from it isn't my problem since I'm not the one who bought the shit.

Defrauding people when the economy is healthy and robust IS cool? Oh... my bad.

The lowest type of scum would be the kind that refuse to work to make money. I work. I make money. I'm scum? Hmmm. Ok. I guess I'm scum. Let me ask you this: what does YOUR company sell? Is it really necessary? I mean do people have to have it? If not, aren't you selling them shit they don't need? Doesn't that make you scum?

Or do you work for Santa? He just gives stuff away, so that's ok I guess.

The fact that you don't buy them means nothing except that you don't buy them. You probably also never bought a flowbee, or an inside-the-egg-scrambler, or a fleshlight. That doesn't make them bad products, nor does it make them a scam.

This isn't about OUR morals. It's about yours. In your world, you decide what's best for other people and refuse to push those things.

In my world, I trust people to be grown ups and make their own decisions.

If you want to be a giant breast and mother the entire universe, more power to you. I'd rather not take on that kind of responsibility. Raising an entire planet full of retarded children doesn't sound like much fun to me.

Now, put on your helmet, get your coloring books together and let's go to the zoo. They're letting the monkeys mate this month and it should be fascinating.
 
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I hate myself regardless of what I promote, so I don't own any mirrors.

I sleep under the influence of weed and booze.

I don't know that they're scams because I've never used them myself.

Fraud is taking payment for something and not providing the something. They all get something for their money. Whether or not they use it, need it, like it or benefit from it isn't my problem since I'm not the one who bought the shit.

Defrauding people when the economy is healthy and robust IS cool? Oh... my bad.

The lowest type of scum would be the kind that refuse to work to make money. I work. I make money. I'm scum? Hmmm. Ok. I guess I'm scum. Let me ask you this: what does YOUR company sell? Is it really necessary? I mean do people have to have it? If not, aren't you selling them shit they don't need? Doesn't that make you scum?

Or do you work for Santa? He just gives stuff away, so that's ok I guess.

The fact that you don't buy them means nothing except that you don't buy them. You probably also never bought a flowbee, or an inside-the-egg-scrambler, or a fleshlight. That doesn't make them bad products, nor does it make them a scam.

This isn't about OUR morals. It's about yours. In your world, you decide what's best for other people and refuse to push those things.

In my world, I trust people to be grown ups and make their own decisions.

If you want to be a giant breast and mother the entire universe, more power to you. I'd rather not take on that kind of responsibility. Raising an entire planet full of retarded children doesn't sound like much fun to me.

Now, put on your helmet, get your coloring books together and let's go to the zoo. They're letting the monkeys mate this month and it should be fascinating.
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LoL +rep
 
I don't post much for certain reasons but here is my take on you calling any of the offers "scams".....

Everything you will do, have done, want to do or are thinking about doing is already in some fucking database somewhere just waiting to sell you some load of crap. If you call any of these offers scams then you do not know much about marketing.

I will admit I have learned a lot more in the past few months than my first 20 some years of life.

Marketing in general in my opinion is to get someone to buy something they do not want, need or could really even make use of. You as the marketer have the obligation to give an item, service or whatever the perceived value and make the customer want it.

As Mike said BMG, Columbia and others started the re-bill a very long time ago. It is not a new thing. If someone does not know what they are getting into then it is not my fault. Everything you see is "sugar" coated with bullshit and trying to get the most out of you. Here are a few examples I love that have nothing to really do with the rebills.

Did you know that restaurants will play music with a faster tempo to get you to chew your food and leave faster.

Did you know that grocery stores play music at a slow tempo to get you relaxed and to stay there longer and more slower throughout the store.

Did you know those same grocery stores usually change the layouts of the stores at least twice a year in order to confuse you when shopping. The intention is to make you wander and hopefully but something you had no intention of getting in the first place.
 
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I don't post much for certain reasons but here is my take on you calling any of the offers "scams".....

Everything you will do, have done, want to do or are thinking about doing is already in some fucking database somewhere just waiting to sell you some load of crap. If you call any of these offers scams then you do not know much about marketing.

I will admit I have learned a lot more in the past few months than my first 20 some years of life.

Marketing in general in my opinion is to get someone to buy something they do not want, need or could really even make use of. You as the marketer have the obligation to give an item, service or whatever the perceived value and make the customer want it.

As Mike said BMG, Columbia and others started the re-bill a very long time ago. It is not a new thing. If someone does not know what they are getting into then it is not my fault. Everything you see is "sugar" coated with bullshit and trying to get the most out of you. Here are a few examples I love that have nothing to really do with the rebills.

Did you know that restaurants will play music with a faster tempo to get you to chew your food and leave faster.

Did you know that grocery stores play music at a slow tempo to get you relaxed and to stay there longer and more slower throughout the store.

Did you know those same grocery stores usually change the layouts of the stores at least twice a year in order to confuse you when shopping. The intention is to make you wander and hopefully but something you had no intention of getting in the first place.
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To add to this did you know that casinos have spent millions on the color of there carpets because its been determined that the shapes, colors, ect.... of them make you stay longer and the longer you stay the more you spend.

Did you know that in most casino's there isn't very much outside light sources or clocks around?, its because the casino's want you to think its the middle of the day and you've got lots of time to spend your money so you do.
 
And the the casino is so fucking confusing to nagivate around -- it's like a maze. I'm sure the design is pretty accidental ought.

Fuck, the other night I was at Niagara Falls Casino, played from 8 PM to 5 AM, fucking up $400 then losing it all.

Final hand, there was 4 clubs on board on the turn, I had top pair, top kicker, went all in for $50 and mother fucker called me with a straight. ROFL.
 
The people out there who are seriously fucked in the ass due to the shitty economy that are buying berries, crazy biz opp shit, and grants deserve whatever the fuck they get.

If you are really in a bad financial place, don't buy shit on the internet to fix your "problems." If people can afford and justify buying Acai and Colon shit, then it's their prerogative. If they're spending their last couple dollars on some Google Money bullshit or a Grant offer because it's a goddamn magic pill to cure the fact that they don't have any financial responsibility...Well, these kind of people would be fucked with or without people like us.

Most of this world is too fucking easy to live in now, evolution is suffering. At least the internet offers an excellence medium for punishing the very stupid.
 
Jon said:
Bottom line, this industry is about one thing my friend.. and thats making money. If you're not in it for that, then you should pack your shit up and go somewhere else.
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I knew there was a reason I really like you guys
 
We affiliates that promote re-bills are actually helping the world. These idiots are getting a good lesson in "READ THE FUCKEN TERMS". Too many people just sign shit without reading anything. This is why they got an exploding mortgage and are gonna lose their home. So ya, they are fucken stupid... and we are teaching them a lesson. So it makes sense that we get paid for teaching them this VERY important life lesson.
 
I will say though that sometimes I feel like there is a line where the print might be just "too fine" or the claims too fucked up for my tastes and if I'm not comfortable then I'm not running it.

$3.95 sh........ seventy five ninety eight monthly, I'm looking at you. Colon cleanse will fight cancer, I'm looking at you.

The point though is its really up to each person to make their own choice on what they feel comfortable with. A lot of the companies you support every day are doing much much more evil shit than even the most deceiving offer. And I really don't think even the worse offer should be considered a scam. Scams are lies, and if exaggerated claims and fine print are considered lying then most of the advertising crap you see every day are scams.
 
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And the the casino is so fucking confusing to nagivate around -- it's like a maze. I'm sure the design is pretty accidental ought.

Fuck, the other night I was at Niagara Falls Casino, played from 8 PM to 5 AM, fucking up $400 then losing it all.

Final hand, there was 4 clubs on board on the turn, I had top pair, top kicker, went all in for $50 and mother fucker called me with a straight. ROFL.
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You donk. :) Wth are you doing bluffing all in with only $50? That's not enough to make even a set fold on that board.. Not sure what stakes you are playing but I know at $1-$2 nl a $50 all in bet on the turn means there is probably already enough $ in the pot to justify your opponent calling with almost anything.
 
I will tell you something you don't know. The general populous is full of stupid arrogant self centered people.

I have never ever, even before being in Internet marketing ever fallen for some kind of bullshit rebill product. They are obvious - have you ever seen the
Girls Gone Wild infomercials late at night? The constant diet commercials?

Have you ever really studied human behavior? How can some body who knows they are going to most likely lose tons, go to the casino and throw down much of their hard earned money to lose it to a game that favors the house?

How can people take loans they can't possibly repay?

How are people just generally stupid period?

How could so many dumb fucks elect Barack Obama? How could people not be arms over how much money he has already spent?

They are sheeple straight up. They'll never admit it. No. They'd get furiouse about it, but it's the truth.

We are marketers. We are no different then some car company, fast food restaurant, insurance company. We want people to buy our product. If you really are that gullible to things like re-bills, have mercy on you because your stupider than a chimp. Is that my fualt? No, but it turns out lots of people actually think that they can really get something for nothing.

Get off your fucking high horse and start earning or get the fuck out. It's that simple.

You can look at me like I'm the bad guy, that's fine. I'll continue to look at you like your an arrogant, idiotic fool that I can make money off of. Use your head and you'll be fine.
 
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