Help Me Help My Dad
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Appreciate the few that did give useful insight. I might talk with him myself and try to knock his pride down to the level of realizing he has to make cuts in his life. I'm also going to see what I can do about sending some local leads to his office.
lol are you kidding, I just wanted to get a few ideas from a forum that has some decent and smart people once you sift through the assholes looking to poke their edick around the interweb bcoz they're bored ballers.
Blegh, sweet out of context reply. I don't have time to work 5 hours/day developing a product with him. I can set up a website for him and I can do some local marketing. All I was asking out of WF was ideas, just if someone happened to know someone who did something. If not or you don't feel like typing, just leave the thread.
Where did I ever say that? Quite the opposite actually, I've mentioned a few times that I'm not a $3 mil/month ballin acai affiliate. If I could pay to start up a practice in an area that'd be profitable, I would and I wouldn't have needed this thread.
Never said I didn't think that, I'd agree that he has. He has a history of spending money on things he has no use for, I think he doesn't realize it. Of course it's 100% his own fault but he's still my father for christ sakes I want to help him. That a hard concept to understand or do you have no emotional attachment to the people who brought you into this world and took care of you your entire life?
1 wife, 3 kids (that play sports), 2 dogs, big house, apartment, pool,2 cars, debt, etc. Expenses tack up quickly, I was burning $3-4k/month living in my house and I was the only one there.
More fame...more problems
I asked how to help him make money on his own, or did you not read the first post in this thread?
lol are you kidding, I just wanted to get a few ideas from a forum that has some decent and smart people once you sift through the assholes looking to poke their edick around the interweb bcoz they're bored ballers.
AdHustler said:
Blegh, sweet out of context reply. I don't have time to work 5 hours/day developing a product with him. I can set up a website for him and I can do some local marketing. All I was asking out of WF was ideas, just if someone happened to know someone who did something. If not or you don't feel like typing, just leave the thread.
blogspotter said:
Where did I ever say that? Quite the opposite actually, I've mentioned a few times that I'm not a $3 mil/month ballin acai affiliate. If I could pay to start up a practice in an area that'd be profitable, I would and I wouldn't have needed this thread.
evasive said:
Never said I didn't think that, I'd agree that he has. He has a history of spending money on things he has no use for, I think he doesn't realize it. Of course it's 100% his own fault but he's still my father for christ sakes I want to help him. That a hard concept to understand or do you have no emotional attachment to the people who brought you into this world and took care of you your entire life?
1 wife, 3 kids (that play sports), 2 dogs, big house, apartment, pool,2 cars, debt, etc. Expenses tack up quickly, I was burning $3-4k/month living in my house and I was the only one there.
MoobSpray said:
More fame...more problems
bb_wolfe said:
I asked how to help him make money on his own, or did you not read the first post in this thread?
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@OP: If I'm pushing 60, there's no way I would start getting into Internet shit. No fucking way.
He knows dental, and that's what he should be doing. Start doing kids fillings/caps for 75% off normal prices, make a bunch of fucking noise about it, start a charity type organization "No Child Deserves Cavities", get the president's wife on board, make millions, impact large area, do something with his life besides mismanage money.
My insurance agent has a pretty unique start.
He made sure all local dealers knew he was working after hours. As you know tons of car deals get done in the evening, proof of insurance is needed. So he would stay up late, building up his client database that way.
He works normal hours now.
Solution, after hours Dentist / Emergency Dentist. Then follow up, and gain clients for life.
He made sure all local dealers knew he was working after hours. As you know tons of car deals get done in the evening, proof of insurance is needed. So he would stay up late, building up his client database that way.
He works normal hours now.
Solution, after hours Dentist / Emergency Dentist. Then follow up, and gain clients for life.
A dental blog is not going to solve the problem, he needs to move out of the hick town and get a new practice up and running in a busy area. Advertise it for him and get him new clients, isn't it obvious?!
If this was in Australia his debt and mortgage would be at 7% interest, not the pissy 1% you pay over there.
If this was in Australia his debt and mortgage would be at 7% interest, not the pissy 1% you pay over there.
Best answer I've seen so far: re-start his practice. This is his trade, his skill, his life. You said he did it for over 30 years! That's where the opportunity is. You can't expect him to start something else and a) be successful and b) be happy.
He (you) can rent an office, rent equipment, and keep your overhead low. Someone above mentioned after-hours work. That's brilliant. I can't even count the number of times I've tried to get a dentist appointment after 6pm. It's nearly impossible. How about dentist appointments without planning 2,3 - 6 months ahead? They're always booked up. Maybe he takes walk ins in stead? No first appointments? Try to disrupt the standard dentist industry. Personally, I find it frustrating as hell when I call up in April and they say they have none, ZERO appointments until June.
Your focus should be on dentistry or dentistry related. He did it before, he can do it again. Maybe even have him partner up with a few other dentists to see if they can launch a new, joint practice.
He (you) can rent an office, rent equipment, and keep your overhead low. Someone above mentioned after-hours work. That's brilliant. I can't even count the number of times I've tried to get a dentist appointment after 6pm. It's nearly impossible. How about dentist appointments without planning 2,3 - 6 months ahead? They're always booked up. Maybe he takes walk ins in stead? No first appointments? Try to disrupt the standard dentist industry. Personally, I find it frustrating as hell when I call up in April and they say they have none, ZERO appointments until June.
Your focus should be on dentistry or dentistry related. He did it before, he can do it again. Maybe even have him partner up with a few other dentists to see if they can launch a new, joint practice.
you seem to be getting insulted by every response that identifies the real problem he has.
If he can't manage his budget to be under 10k/month then another 10k/month won't help him one bit. In fact it'd probably throw him into even more debt.
And I'm not sure if he's married or not but does your mom have a job?
If he can't manage his budget to be under 10k/month then another 10k/month won't help him one bit. In fact it'd probably throw him into even more debt.
And I'm not sure if he's married or not but does your mom have a job?
drc (didn't read comments)
However....
With his dentistry skills and your marketing skills you help him by....
buying a data list of new dentist school graduates and also dentists' who have just started a practice and setting up direct mail campaigns with the intention of selling your counseling services and/or seminars on obtaining clients via online marketing strategies....$1,500 per person.
Of course it's a lot more complicated than that, but I'm sure you could figure it out.
However....
With his dentistry skills and your marketing skills you help him by....
buying a data list of new dentist school graduates and also dentists' who have just started a practice and setting up direct mail campaigns with the intention of selling your counseling services and/or seminars on obtaining clients via online marketing strategies....$1,500 per person.
Of course it's a lot more complicated than that, but I'm sure you could figure it out.
What the hell kind of mortgage does he have on a $300k house? If he was making $10k/month... I would expect MINIMALLY a 25-30% down payment. When i hear people putting <10% down payment on a house I just lol... then they get into problems like ITT.
See that's the problem - Uber never had any 'marketing skills' and now that his last mobile offer has died, he's had to sell his house and move back with his parents.
There's info we're not being told here. If there is such a massive demand as the guy a couple of posts ago says (no bookings for the next 2 months...) then why did he have to sell his existing dental practice? Why couldn't Uber have stepped in with his Uber Marketing Skills and saved the old business the first time? Why will it be different this time around?
Isostar13 said:
I think I might talk to him and work out the costs of setting up a new practice and completely renting out everything. Promotion is one thing he didn't really do too much of at his old practice and when he sold it I was just starting to get into IM.
If he started one up I could definitely work on some Google campaigns for him and promote things like after-hours, free exam/consultation, etc.
As I've said I'm aware that he mismanages his money and I've talked to him about downsizing his life, I've mentioned this. "lul your dad can't manage his money lul" repeatedly isn't serving any purpose in this thread.
My mom has gotten a couple part-time seasonal jobs but most of her time is spent driving my sisters and brother around to school, music, sporting events, and running the house/taking care of our old dogs.
DreamMachine said:
I haven't run a mobile offer in 4 years. I don't live with my parents.
Some of you guys are fucking idiots bashing Paul.
Im not taking up for him, but the guy just wants some ideas/advice and you come in here bashing his dad. Everyone's situation is different. Matter of fact I know a lot of you guys ballin with some serious cash in the bank but live like fucking bums.. hey thats your life, but not all of us want to live in basements and wear our clothes for 4 days straight and drive a beat up Pinto. Some of us actually enjoy our money and if the guy was doing this for 30 years straight, he had better money skills then your ass did just cause you got rich off acai the last 3 years.
Some of you guys must not own nice things or have older kids/family you take care of, but when you have a $300k home, a couple med to high end cars ( lets just say a mild BMW or Mercedes, hell even a new SUV from Ford ), you have to remember its not just the payment, but the insurance and taxes that eat away at your income.
Hell, properties taxes alone on a 300k home can be 5k a year in some places if not more. Also, taxes on nicer cars eat away income as well and we havent even touched on insurance yet on those things, let alone insurance on his practice he had all the while trying to put kids through college, buy groceries, host and do birthdays for his kids/grandkids, anniverseries, unexpected issues that come up, and just maybe taking a small vacation a year.
$10k a month is bullshit for someone that leads even a "mildly" moderate lifestyle as a professional that had their own business.
I don't have advice for you Paul, but all the others on this thread bashing your dad can eat a fucking dick, and I seriously mean it.
Those without kids, a real business that requires e&o/malpractice insurance, or that still live in apartments with 2 of your college roomates, dont even need to comment.
Im not taking up for him, but the guy just wants some ideas/advice and you come in here bashing his dad. Everyone's situation is different. Matter of fact I know a lot of you guys ballin with some serious cash in the bank but live like fucking bums.. hey thats your life, but not all of us want to live in basements and wear our clothes for 4 days straight and drive a beat up Pinto. Some of us actually enjoy our money and if the guy was doing this for 30 years straight, he had better money skills then your ass did just cause you got rich off acai the last 3 years.
Some of you guys must not own nice things or have older kids/family you take care of, but when you have a $300k home, a couple med to high end cars ( lets just say a mild BMW or Mercedes, hell even a new SUV from Ford ), you have to remember its not just the payment, but the insurance and taxes that eat away at your income.
Hell, properties taxes alone on a 300k home can be 5k a year in some places if not more. Also, taxes on nicer cars eat away income as well and we havent even touched on insurance yet on those things, let alone insurance on his practice he had all the while trying to put kids through college, buy groceries, host and do birthdays for his kids/grandkids, anniverseries, unexpected issues that come up, and just maybe taking a small vacation a year.
$10k a month is bullshit for someone that leads even a "mildly" moderate lifestyle as a professional that had their own business.
I don't have advice for you Paul, but all the others on this thread bashing your dad can eat a fucking dick, and I seriously mean it.
Those without kids, a real business that requires e&o/malpractice insurance, or that still live in apartments with 2 of your college roomates, dont even need to comment.
^ Are you serious man? My dad makes around the same amount as OPs, lives in a $500k+ house (mortgage payments are around $900 because of the downpayment). He is currently putting my 2 siblings through college, my mom doesn't work, they have 3 cars (paid cash... 2006+ Chevy's) and there are 0 issues. In fact, he is currently putting money into upgrading the house even more (long term investment) + a lot more in mutual funds, ETFs and retirement. And, based on OPs previous posts where he lives, i could guarantee taxes and insurance over here is close to double. Insurance for his practice? Are you serious? That isn't a personal expense (necessarily).
I could name NUMEROUS family making HALF what the OPs dad makes that are living more than perfect in my area.
I could name NUMEROUS family making HALF what the OPs dad makes that are living more than perfect in my area.
Cool...THAT'S YOUR GODDAMN SITUATION. Different people have different situations. My family has been extremely frugal with money for the past 3 years since my dad had to sell his practice, but his cost of living is high (especially living in 2 locations now). I've also said there's CC debt he's been paying off, but I really don't have to explain myself because it's completely fucking irrelevant to this thread.
And thanks eliquid, it just comes down to the fact that most people here are just arrogant and out to make themselves feel better.