Is that a problem if the quality is the same?
If the quality is worse, then there is probably no demand.
Or you are not looking hard enough (tailors?).
How can the American people compete with $1.78/hr?
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Is that a problem if the quality is the same?
If the quality is worse, then there is probably no demand.
Or you are not looking hard enough (tailors?).
You should read this book.
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The problem is that you're comparing apples and oranges. When you're living in bumfuck china, the cost of living isn't comparable to living in Manhattan.
Some of the manufacturing that used to be located in China has already relocated to other poorer nations due to rising costs - that'll continue to happen and then they will move from that country to another even cheaper country.
Some of the manufacturing that used to be located in China has already relocated to other poorer nations due to rising costs - that'll continue to happen and then they will move from that country to another even cheaper country.
I'd say stop trying to compete and start ADAPTING. By the way $1.78 an hour, in some countries, is very much a good pay (Americans wouldn't understand cos they often don't go beyond those borders anyways).
If the standard of living in these countries are lower than that in America, then it's bloody Ok to charge that. And guys, APPLE is NOT a charity Organization and doubt they are 'exploiting' these folks [in the sense an american may see it]; it's a business and we are all in business to make profits (Even governments are in relationships with other governments for 'what they can gain').
Believe me, some folks in some countries would be financially well of with $1.50 per hour (quit seeing other countries from your perspective, see it from theirs)
Just my 2 cents
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If the standard of living in these countries are lower than that in America, then it's bloody Ok to charge that. And guys, APPLE is NOT a charity Organization and doubt they are 'exploiting' these folks [in the sense an american may see it]; it's a business and we are all in business to make profits (Even governments are in relationships with other governments for 'what they can gain').
Believe me, some folks in some countries would be financially well of with $1.50 per hour (quit seeing other countries from your perspective, see it from theirs)
Just my 2 cents
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China is a developing nation. Give their economy a bit more time to catch up and they'll start demanding higher wages as their industrialism gives their company more opportunity.
In 20-30 years all those factories will probably be in some fucked up part of Africa as we rebuild their economy by taking advantage of their cheap as fuck labor.
In 20-30 years all those factories will probably be in some fucked up part of Africa as we rebuild their economy by taking advantage of their cheap as fuck labor.
rebuild? more like build for the first time
Same goes for India, but India is actually growing at a much faster rate than China. China is where the US was at 80 years ago during the period of industrialization. They have yet to hit their bubble.
Some of you need to put your economics books down. Also equality does not equal communism/socialism. And as someone else stated, econimics is borderless so if Apple are making $50 per hour in profit from every person working for them in Wherethefuckisthatastan, and they're paying them $1 per hour then that is exploitation.
And "but it's not good for America" is not a valid arguement. Fox news isn't good for America but most of you right wing nutjobs seem to be lapping that shite up.
And "but it's not good for America" is not a valid arguement. Fox news isn't good for America but most of you right wing nutjobs seem to be lapping that shite up.
McDonalds must make a lot of profit in New York City. Can their typical worker use one week's worth of wages to pay for a month of shelter, food, and health care - even if they share a tiny NYC apartment with 6 other people?
Looking at the article, the problems from the worker perspective seem to have more to do with things like the amount of forced overtime and the mind-numbing work.
The article mentions a worker becoming excited to see a functioning iPad for the first time after the writer showed them theirs. Little things like this can improve worker morale and it wouldn't be hard for them to show everyone a working iPad during orientation.
Clearly, you have been able to calculate the point at which exploitation has occurred. (I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you would not dare make the above statement without being able to substantiate it.) Would you please inform us - and by extension, Apple - at which point the level of profit per hour would no longer constitute exploitation of $1/hour workers.
$40/hr profit?
$35/hr profit?
$2.75/hr profit?
Perhaps you should learn economics. Start here:
Robert P. Murphy :: Lessons for the Young Economist
I'm thinking it's going to be the level of profit per hour where their employees stop committing suicide on the factory floor in despair.
Maybe it is when the company can safely take down the nets that keep the employees from jumping from the balcony to their deaths because of the horrible working conditions, mental abuse, and slave wages.
Maybe if the cost of labor is driven up enough they won't have to worry about suicides because the labor will be driven to some other country. These guys can just starve to death instead. Sounds way better.
Where do you get off imposing your views on others and determining what their value is? This is the line of thinking causes children to turn to prostitution because they can't get an honest job but still have to eat.
They're slaves just like we are. You think anybody wants to clock in and spend most of their day working for the man?
The buyer and the seller are the only people who can determine what fair value is, none of us have a say in that transaction.
