How can the average person become a multi-millionaire?

Depending on the area, you can pick up rental properties that will provide enormous ROI's just from the rents - that way you don't care if the properties appreciate because the cash flow alone will provide the return. Then you leverage those properties to get into something with a bigger return.
 


Well in my area you have to be really careful with real estate. I wanted to get a license but decided not to because 95% of the people in Miami are Cons, 4% are posers and come mierdas, and 1% are legit.
 
Srssly though, I don't know anything about real estate investing, but why not use your cash to partner up and start new businesses?
 
Seriously lol'ing @ everyone thinking real estate investing means buying homes and flipping them, buying "under priced" homes and keeping them, or buying million dollar family homes and renting them out.

Y'all should go into business with Nicolas Cage!
 
Srssly though, I don't know anything about real estate investing, but why not use your cash to partner up and start new businesses?

Nothing wrong with that.

New business = possibility for failure, time commitment, and stress.

Real estate - done right - opens up a way for you to put virtually (depending on your income - it's all relative) down while having an asset that will most likely depending on your market only go up in value and, again if done right, pay for itself and over time as you pay off your mortgage continue to earn you more and more money each month.

Real investing isn't buying million dollar homes in Beverly Hills and flipping them. That's something, as shown by the crash, that only lasts for awhile. Just like the berries.

...Good real estate investors usually invest the same % of their worth back into real estate each and every year. Good times or not. When people lose their homes they turn to renting. Rentals are what anyone with half a mind should invest in if they're interested in real estate.

Under four units, at least here (no idea about in the states), you can get home interest rates instead of commercial like you would for over five units. Buy in the heart of the city in places with low vacancy rates and you really can't go wrong.

Most times, with good credit, you don't need a large percent now. Canada just passed a bullshit law that you NEED to put 20% down on any rental property.

But if you can get the rental property appraised low (by asking for an appraisal on the current cash flow of the property - only do this if the current rents are low) even though you may buy for more you can then put some more money into it, get another appraisal done on the worth of the building in and of itself (market value), and get a loan from another bank for that amount you can pay off your previous mortgage (loan) for the lesser amount, cover your (in my case) 20% down, and pay for the repairs.

...Tried to put that as simply as possible. If anyone wants me to actually state the same things in market terms I'll be more then happy to.

Your cutting into how profitable the units, and the building, is per month due to getting a higher loan amount on it. But with the improvements raising rent is usually no problem and as long as you bought the property so that it more than paid for all necessary expenses monthly you'll still be in the black no problem.

...Just like in general marketing you need to show perceived value to the banks your working with and the tenants you have alike.

Depending on what area you're in, especially if it's a large one, real estate investing can seem dangerous. But what people fail to realize, unless your in Detroit, is when people default on their homes and when market rates fall it's all just on paper and people are still mostly living in the general area.

Thus people turn to rentals. Not new, fancy buildings though.

It's about offering your company/properties as a brand. A trusted brand that delivers value.

There's a reason everyone isn't into real estate. Just like there's a reason everyone isn't online, or into stocks. It's because it isn't easy and it does take years of experience and watching to really understand the market, areas, and times that you're in.

...But it can make you solid, sustainable income. And that's, in my opinion, a great counterweight to the ups and downs online.
 
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Nothing wrong with that.

New business = possibility for failure, time commitment, and stress.

Real estate - done right - opens up a way for you to put virtually (depending on your income - it's all relative) down while having an asset that will most likely depending on your market only go up in value and, again if done right, pay for itself and over time as you pay off your mortgage continue to earn you more and more money each month.

Real investing isn't buying million dollar homes in Beverly Hills and flipping them. That's something, as shown by the crash, that only lasts for awhile. Just like the berries.

...Good real estate investors usually invest the same % of their worth back into real estate each and every year. Good times or not. When people lose their homes they turn to renting. Rentals are what anyone with half a mind should invest in if they're interested in real estate.

Under four units, at least here (no idea about in the states), you can get home interest rates instead of commercial like you would for over five units. Buy in the heart of the city in places with low vacancy rates and you really can't go wrong.

Most times, with good credit, you don't need a large percent now. Canada just passed a bullshit law that you NEED to put 20% down on any rental property.

But if you can get the rental property appraised low (by asking for an appraisal on the current cash flow of the property - only do this if the current rents are low) even though you may buy for more you can then put some more money into it, get another appraisal done on the worth of the building in and of itself (market value), and get a loan from another bank for that amount you can pay off your previous mortgage (loan) for the lesser amount, cover your (in my case) 20% down, and pay for the repairs.

...Tried to put that as simply as possible. If anyone wants me to actually state the same things in market terms I'll be more then happy to.

Your cutting into how profitable the units, and the building, is per month due to getting a higher loan amount on it. But with the improvements raising rent is usually no problem and as long as you bought the property so that it more than paid for all necessary expenses monthly you'll still be in the black no problem.

...Just like in general marketing you need to show perceived value to the banks your working with and the tenants you have alike.

Depending on what area you're in, especially if it's a large one, real estate investing can seem dangerous. But what people fail to realize, unless your in Detroit, is when people default on their homes and when market rates fall it's all just on paper and people are still mostly living in the general area.

Thus people turn to rentals. Not new, fancy buildings though.

It's about offering your company/properties as a brand. A trusted brand that delivers value.

There's a reason everyone isn't into real estate. Just like there's a reason everyone isn't online, or into stocks. It's because it isn't easy and it does take years of experience and watching to really understand the market, areas, and times that you're in.

...But it can make you solid, sustainable income. And that's, in my opinion, a great counterweight to the ups and downs online.
 
for me it means buying this at the bottom - https://personal.vanguard.com/us/FundsSnapshot?FundId=0123&FundIntExt=INT

what's it mean for you?

That's a risky as fuck fund.

...Bottom could've been pretty easily guessed within a few thousand, however.

I wouldn't jump in right now, or if you have in my opinion I'd look deeper into the fund and what "assets" the holdings really have.

Within the next few years we'll see another bubble in the US market. It's going to heat up really quickly and will be set back again to '09 levels. I'd put money in at the next large dip down.

As for my views on how to invest in real estate they are posted above this.

...I like having at least partial control of the assets I keep and personally don't trust funds where I can't invest enough to get a face to face meeting with those playing with my money.

Everyone's different. But I love playing the markets at lows, not at shaky highs. The markets will be up and down for the foreseeable future with the US dollar and unfounded confidence in the global economy. That's why I invest in real brick and mortar assets apposed to funds like that.

Although, like I said before, I'd put in money at the next large dip in the fund. Barrier to enter is pretty low. I'll keep an eye on it over the next year or so.
 
I'm not talking about taking out mortgages, I'm talking about making small investments in $20k-$40k homes that get between $750 - $875/month rent. That makes it all positive cash flow and based on the initial outlay, it's still a good ROI (normally 30% - 40%). What other investment can you drop $25k on and see an almost guaranteed $10k return on every year, indefinitely (minus occasional repairs and vacancies)? Then, if the property doesn't go up in value, you still have constant return for as long as you want. If they do go up in a few years you can always sell and reinvest all that capital since there is no mortgage. This isn't flipping, it's an investment with one guaranteed cash flow, and another future cash flow.

People may not always be able to afford a mortgage, but they will always need somewhere to live.
 
I'm not talking about taking out mortgages, I'm talking about making small investments in $20k-$40k homes that get between $750 - $875/month rent. That makes it all positive cash flow and based on the initial outlay, it's still a good ROI (normally 30% - 40%). What other investment can you drop $25k on and see an almost guaranteed $10k return on every year, indefinitely (minus occasional repairs and vacancies)? Then, if the property doesn't go up in value, you still have constant return for as long as you want. If they do go up in a few years you can always sell and reinvest all that capital since there is no mortgage. This isn't flipping, it's an investment with one guaranteed cash flow, and another future cash flow.

People may not always be able to afford a mortgage, but they will always need somewhere to live.

Well said.

Of course for rentals that are more 300,000-3,000,000 there's nothing wrong with mortgages. Rates just went up here. I have fixed at under 4 - as close to free money as you can get.

...And like you said. When the house pays for itself every month plus some the interest is the least you'll concern yourself with.
 
I'm not talking about taking out mortgages, I'm talking about making small investments in $20k-$40k homes that get between $750 - $875/month rent. That makes it all positive cash flow and based on the initial outlay, it's still a good ROI (normally 30% - 40%). What other investment can you drop $25k on and see an almost guaranteed $10k return on every year, indefinitely (minus occasional repairs and vacancies)? Then, if the property doesn't go up in value, you still have constant return for as long as you want. If they do go up in a few years you can always sell and reinvest all that capital since there is no mortgage. This isn't flipping, it's an investment with one guaranteed cash flow, and another future cash flow.

People may not always be able to afford a mortgage, but they will always need somewhere to live.

Not possible in my area -average price is 225k. But I have a friend in Arizona doing the 40kto50k purchases in the suburbs. On his 3rd property this year already, instant cash flow. One of the home owners that sold, even stayed in the house and continued to rent (it was a short sale). I personally think the Real Estate market will recover in 4-6 years, and most people that didn't make some good investments during this time, will look back with regret.
 
Curious as to where the $25k houses are. Not interested in Detroit or any other super depressed area though.

I'm not talking about taking out mortgages, I'm talking about making small investments in $20k-$40k homes that get between $750 - $875/month rent. That makes it all positive cash flow and based on the initial outlay, it's still a good ROI (normally 30% - 40%). What other investment can you drop $25k on and see an almost guaranteed $10k return on every year, indefinitely (minus occasional repairs and vacancies)? Then, if the property doesn't go up in value, you still have constant return for as long as you want. If they do go up in a few years you can always sell and reinvest all that capital since there is no mortgage. This isn't flipping, it's an investment with one guaranteed cash flow, and another future cash flow.

People may not always be able to afford a mortgage, but they will always need somewhere to live.
 
I'm not talking about taking out mortgages, I'm talking about making small investments in $20k-$40k homes that get between $750 - $875/month rent. That makes it all positive cash flow and based on the initial outlay, it's still a good ROI (normally 30% - 40%). What other investment can you drop $25k on and see an almost guaranteed $10k return on every year, indefinitely (minus occasional repairs and vacancies)? Then, if the property doesn't go up in value, you still have constant return for as long as you want. If they do go up in a few years you can always sell and reinvest all that capital since there is no mortgage. This isn't flipping, it's an investment with one guaranteed cash flow, and another future cash flow.

People may not always be able to afford a mortgage, but they will always need somewhere to live.

I must not be looking in the right areas.. where you finding homes for 20-40k, would like to snap those up myself.

The only homes around here like that are foreclosed/auction, and all the big timers already got their claws into those here and outbid everyone else for them.
 
Curious as to where the $25k houses are. Not interested in Detroit or any other super depressed area though.

I wanna know too, id like to stay in my area as well..

again, any solution then foreclosed/auction where the big boys already basically "won"?
 
I am not talking about in the city of Detroit (their taxes are retarded, which has lead to a lot of burned down houses), but in suburbs around Detroit like Roseville, Warren, Fraser etc. These are decent areas (certainly nothing special, but a far stretch from Detroit) and these houses are routinely available through short sales and HUD.