How much do you save to move to another country?

Yeah, but I got dogs, and they're like my kids. I ain't giving them up. That means houses only. No hotels, apartments, etc.

I know that feel. I have 2 dogs myself. And one is a Pitbull, so aside from no houses/apartments/etc, we always have other restrictions to worry about as well.

For example, several countries we cant even consider due to Pitbull bans. Hell, even 90% of airlines wont fly him.
 


Move your dogs with a reputable animal shipping company. They can hold them back for a number of days until you arrive and get settled and then can ship them to you so when you receive them they move into a home prepared for their arrival. The company we used coming from Canada for our cat has a facility in Frankfurt that clears all animals coming into Europe for example. They get there and stay the night, get cleaned up, fed, watered, and then put onto the plane in the AM for the next leg of the journey. With the expat communities in places like Dubai, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a service like that for animals travelling through that part of the world.

Hey buddy, name of the company please :)
 
My very first move abroad was to London years ago with less than £500 to my name. Things worked out just fine.

One of the more memorable moves was after I lost about 90% of my monies and ALL of my income due to all kinds of shit going wrong - SEO, blah blah a few years ago. I moved to a Mediterranean country with like $3000 in savings and no income. Things worked out just fine.

My most recent move to Spain (Tenerife) I had plenty $$ saved up and a very stable income. Wasn't any easier/harder than my initial move to the med. when I was totally broke.

So yea - why do you need $50k? If you have a stable income - just move already.

The typical Spaniard will do the same thing man. Especially with big black dogs. I don't think it's a Muslim thing, it's just a people thing. Lots of people are afraid of dogs.

I'm in Santa Cruz right now and it's as Spanish here as it gets - no one speaks any English... Parks are full of people walking big/medium/small dogs no problem. I get the impression that Spanish here love their dogs.
 
I'm in Santa Cruz right now and it's as Spanish here as it gets - no one speaks any English... Parks are full of people walking big/medium/small dogs no problem. I get the impression that Spanish here love their dogs.

While not trying to stereotype the entire populous, the Spanish are notoriously bad when it comes to animal welfare. The local privately run no kill shelters in the immediate area usually have over 800 dogs looking for homes.

The Spanish don't typically spay or neuter, and boxes of puppies left at the gates of the shelters, or found in dumpsters is quite common. Older dogs are often found chained to the gates of the shelters as well. There have been several cases locally of dogs and cats set on fire, or mutilated. Kids throw rocks at strays for fun. Dogs and cats are regularly intentionally poisoned. Dogs chained in yards with no food, water or shelter from the elements is also commonplace. Spanish hunting dogs, called galgos (similar to a greyhound), are notoriously abused. When they don't perform well for hunters they are often beaten to death or hung by their necks from a tree. There's also a pretty popular dog fighting scene here.

The government run shelters are typically referred to as "killing stations" where animals there are kept for the obligatory 10 days without food or water (because those things cost money) and then are put down. The people that run the killing stations typically get a monthly budget of several thousand euros, so wherever they can save money means more in their pockets. Shelters have been found that don't use enough euthanization drugs (because they cost money) so animals take much longer to die than they should. The La Linea de la Concepcion killing station was previously run by the mayor's brother and he preferred to use a cricket bat to put the animals down.

On top of all that, with the higher than normal turnover of expats coming and going, they too abandon their dogs instead of taking them back to the UK or whatever other EU countries they come from, most winding up in shelters.

Fortunately several animal welfare organizations have taken over, or have made deals with, the gov't run killing stations and are particularly good at rehoming dogs here or to other parts of Europe.

This isn't to say that all Spaniards mistreat animals. There's a big animal welfare movement gaining momentum in this country and I know lots of good dog owners here who treat their pets very well. It's what you don't typically see that's the problem.
 
While not trying to stereotype the entire populous, the Spanish are notoriously bad when it comes to animal welfare. The local privately run no kill shelters in the immediate area usually have over 800 dogs looking for homes.

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Yea that sounds pretty bad. I've only been here a few weeks (staying for three months) and staying right in the city center I don't necessarily know how farmers, hunters and other "old school" Spaniards treat their dogs.

That said both Cypriots and Maltese treat dogs very poorly so this has got to be a Mediterranean thing unfortunately. :( I've seen people poison (leave poisoned food on the ground) dogs in village squares in Cyprus - fucking nuts and incredibly sad.
 
The dog fighting scene is such a problem here that the shelters can't leave pitbulls, staffordshires, or other similar breeds at their facilities or they get broken into at night and those dogs get stolen. They have to keep them in secret locations, and to adopt one you have to show you're licensed to own that kind of breed and also pass a thorough background check before you can even see the dogs.

Anyways, well off topic now.

I'll try to find you guys the name of the animal shipping company we used when coming from Canada to Europe! It's in a box of old papers somewhere.
 
I really wish to move to somewhere nice & warm, cheaper & happier people / fitter babes - Thinking Thailand, but the main roadblock for me is being close to my bro' at the moment. He's got cancer and it's got worse - I genuinely don't know how much longer he's going to be around so I feel somewhat grounded in London. :(

Chiang Mai is my favored destination though. I certainly have enough to just move there without lifting a finger for work.

First world problems eh?!
 
A buddy of mine just flew to Thailand with a one way ticket and only had 8k saved up.

Not sure what he is going to do there but he got fed up with life here and just living in Thailand now.

Moving across the world is cheap.
 
If I were you I'd go for it - life is short man. Like someone else mentioned above, you can work with a legitimate company that will safely move your pets around the world. Your savings might drop to 28k in the process, but it sounds like you really want to do this.

Good luck.