How To Brainwash A Nation
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So... who's doing this brainwashing? I mean, the Soviet Union is long gone. Russia is pretty capitalist now... did they give up on their own country, or what? Or is it the secret cabal of Jewish bankers? The NWO? Who's the bogeyman I'm supposed to be afraid of again? Sometimes I wonder if guys like Alex Jones are actually part of some conspiracy themselves, with how they sputter out these hyperbolic half-truths, getting people confused, wound up, caught up in fear etc. Hard to think clearly when you're getting all this crazy bullshit flying at you from every direction...
Hi Pseudo Nym,
I get your point. It's funny too because I used to listen to Michael Savage until it seemed to me that I only ended up being depressed about the "hopelessness" of the situation. Eventually I stopped listening to Savage and started contributing to efforts that might make a difference.
Now I believe Michael Savage is a Socialist "plant" whose job is to discourage guys from even trying to change things, lol.
I get your point. It's funny too because I used to listen to Michael Savage until it seemed to me that I only ended up being depressed about the "hopelessness" of the situation. Eventually I stopped listening to Savage and started contributing to efforts that might make a difference.
Now I believe Michael Savage is a Socialist "plant" whose job is to discourage guys from even trying to change things, lol.
While Machiavellian principles will continue to work in undeveloped areas developed societies will continue in a technocratic fashion persevering information with the rise of the information age.
The only thing I'm worried about is the media, albeit small or big slanting objective information. Acting as if they are apart of some esoteric system that feel they deserve the right to publish their ridiculous opinions.
I have high hopes for the future though, children will be able to harbor and grow their interests in the click of a button. Though I believe in the coming century America will fall in regards to technological advanced outside of small technocratic organizations if funding remains the way it does now. Developing nations are finally joining the network and have extreme determination to learn and achieve success due to the fact that information is the only thing that is really holding the back at the moment. Americans by and large have access to insane amounts of data, public education and so on, yet so spoiled by these treats they find no value in them. Instead they partake in mindless fornication and reality TV shows.
As nationalism begins to fade in the coming century it will benefit us all, increase the rigors of education for all and allow us to look at the race as a single entity. Hopefully we will begin to look at advancement not in how much candy you can sell, but how far we can colonize space, how many people we can alleviate in their well being & their access to appropriates amount of food & shelter to live a fruitful life.
The future will continue to hold the technologically literate in high regard, they will be the creators of society, furthering robotic processes eliminating the need for the working class allowing for the race to focus on the stars. I just worry that the dichotomy between the lazy and ambitious will grow further to a point in which the class system is irreversible.
The only thing I'm worried about is the media, albeit small or big slanting objective information. Acting as if they are apart of some esoteric system that feel they deserve the right to publish their ridiculous opinions.
I have high hopes for the future though, children will be able to harbor and grow their interests in the click of a button. Though I believe in the coming century America will fall in regards to technological advanced outside of small technocratic organizations if funding remains the way it does now. Developing nations are finally joining the network and have extreme determination to learn and achieve success due to the fact that information is the only thing that is really holding the back at the moment. Americans by and large have access to insane amounts of data, public education and so on, yet so spoiled by these treats they find no value in them. Instead they partake in mindless fornication and reality TV shows.
As nationalism begins to fade in the coming century it will benefit us all, increase the rigors of education for all and allow us to look at the race as a single entity. Hopefully we will begin to look at advancement not in how much candy you can sell, but how far we can colonize space, how many people we can alleviate in their well being & their access to appropriates amount of food & shelter to live a fruitful life.
The future will continue to hold the technologically literate in high regard, they will be the creators of society, furthering robotic processes eliminating the need for the working class allowing for the race to focus on the stars. I just worry that the dichotomy between the lazy and ambitious will grow further to a point in which the class system is irreversible.
You act like conspiracies don't exist. Who was behind the Russian Revolution? Obviously that was a conspiracy orchestrated by a group of thugs. This same conspiracy is orchestrated by another group of thugs. You could go on and on listing who's doing the brainwashing and what their contribution is. We have seen so many steps take place in the last 100 years on so many different levels.
Were the people who were calling out Communism in the 1920's also part of the conspiracy? Were the people calling out Nazism also part of that conspiracy? Say what you will about Alex Jones, but just because somebody calls something out doesn't make them part of it. And just because somebody calls something out doesn't make it any less real. And you're right, there is a lot of bullshit flying around. But that's life. There is obviously something going on. If people want to recognize it they will. If people want to keep their head in the sand they will.
yup. everyone blames politicians, etc and ignores what's right in front of them, shaping their bias - the media.
Insofar as a conspiracy is just two or more people planning something in private, of course they exist. As far as the wealthy and powerful that meet at places like the Bilderberg and Bohemian Grove, I have no doubt that they get together and make speeches and discuss global economic and geopolitical issues and propose ways of dealing with them. I guess I don't see why this is necessarily a sinister thing (unless you unquestioningly accept everything AJ says, which I don't).
The reality is, there are issues currently and on the horizon - overpopulation, resource scarcity, environmental degradation, nuclear conflict, to name a few - that are potentially catastrophic to civilization. Human beings, in general, tend to act in ways that serve their own interests, rather than the interests of the whole. The problem is, if everyone keeps doing this, in the end we'll all suffer for it. Picture a ship sailing through a field of icebergs. You'd want someone at the helm, wouldn't you? Otherwise we're just sailing blind. The question is, can you trust the people at the wheel? Alex Jones and his ilk obviously don't. I'm not convinced.
I'll tell you what I think, if you care to listen. I think the powerful elite - the Bilderbergers et al - are not a group with a singular mind. I think most all of them have their own interests. At the same time, I think they realize that there are serious problems facing the world, and if they don't take steps to deal with those problems, no one will. The methods they use may be questionable, may be morally objectionable even, but may be seen as necessary. Without knowing what they might know, how can you say what is justified or not? If lives or freedoms or quality of life are sacrificed, but civilization is ultimately saved from another dark ages - or worse - is it worth it?
I don't think these people with the power are Luciferians Hell-bent on totalitarian world-domination, subjugating the Earth's population, turning all of us into slaves totally beholden to their will. On the other hand, I think they are interested in promoting cultural homogeneity across the planet and getting governments/peoples to align into a "new world order." Americans hate the idea, because we feel stripped of our sovereignty, our national identity, but at the same time, doesn't it make sense to work toward that?
Scientific and technological progress within the last century now allows for a relatively small group of dedicated individuals to unleash massive devastation that would have global repercussions. It would be incredibly irresponsible to be aware of the danger, have the power to do something, and not do it. It is in our collective interest to not have rogue states (e.g., North Korea) or other groups out there building nuclear weapons. The danger is too great to allow it. A "new world order," or whatever you want to call it, is an obvious solution, not just to the problem of rogue nuclear states, but to any of the other potential civilization-enders.
You're only now discovering Bezmenov? He is the key to it all.
Demoralization.
Destabilization.
Crisis.
Normalization.
Barack Obama was placed in office in order to bring about Crisis, that is why he is attempting to bankrupt us, destroy our military, tarnish our name, embarrass our allies, and cause chaos. Russia never changed a thing, the KGB simply changed its name, but the underlying structure never did. Who is Putin? KGB. It's so obvious it's laughable.
There's tons of Russian defectors who testified that Russia had implemented a long-range, 60-year plan to feign weakness, lull the West asleep, suck aid and capital from them, rebuild and then launch a surprise attack.
Obama is the final piece.
Demoralization.
Destabilization.
Crisis.
Normalization.
Barack Obama was placed in office in order to bring about Crisis, that is why he is attempting to bankrupt us, destroy our military, tarnish our name, embarrass our allies, and cause chaos. Russia never changed a thing, the KGB simply changed its name, but the underlying structure never did. Who is Putin? KGB. It's so obvious it's laughable.
There's tons of Russian defectors who testified that Russia had implemented a long-range, 60-year plan to feign weakness, lull the West asleep, suck aid and capital from them, rebuild and then launch a surprise attack.
Obama is the final piece.
^Yer doing it again, HB... This is getting too good... I'm going to need popcorn when the day comes... 
Very well said and I do agree to a large degree. Most of these people do have information that we don't have and do know things that we don't know. Rather than explain it to the sheep maybe it's just better to do the right thing and let what happens happen. But, I don't think these guys are doing the right thing. I could be wrong but it seems like everything they touch is a disaster. There are obviously differences of opinion in the higher levels and nothing is ever clean cut as well. But as a whole things appear to be moving in a terrible direction.
Socialism is illogical, inefficient and purposefully designed to gain control over nations and make people weaker. They have many books writing about this. We know socialism was created by the elite circles, same with central banking. We know they were behind Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and all the other experiments they have used for tyranny. We know they are behind the popular religions. We know America was better off before they had their hand in it. America sucks now as a result of them. They didn't make America better. And they haven't made the world better. Just as the Federal Reserve rapes America, the IMF rapes the rest of the world. Hiding behind nation building and puppet dictators while taking resources isn't moving civilization forward. It only perpetuates the problem and keeps the elite in power.
There will invariably be good that comes out of their actions but as a whole it is a net loss, not a net gain. I'm not mad about what they're doing because if the people are too stupid to understand it that is their problem. Dumb people will always be slaves until they wake up. But to say what they're doing is right sounds like BS to me. It is completely in their own self interest and makes the world worse as a whole. Some people will come out ahead. But most people will not. And keeping the majority of people stupid does not bring mankind forward.
I don't think the NWO is a good society. While I do agree we should have a NWO that is optimized and efficient and balanced, that is not what these guys are doing. They are creating what they have always created. A form of serfdom where they rule and the rest of the world is slaves. That is not the way to do a NWO. We are already living in it somewhat. And for most people a NWO is great. They get their daily basketball, they get their daily beer and they get their daily sex. What more could you ask for? Life is great for them. They're happy being slaves and the elite are happy being in control. It's just that small group of people who want to move forward and create societies where everyone is intelligent and virtuous who lose out.
Many of the problems you talk about were created by them. They create the problem to get the reaction. They funded Communism to scare us into a Cold War. Americans/British funded Communism. Nuclear threat? By who? They create the threat. They do this type of setup all the time.
Resource scarcity primarily exists because of government regulation, aka socialism. Most farmers can't even operate how they would like to. The elite control a large portion of food production through the government monopoly. Government intervention decreases production, raises prices, creates a barrier to entry, makes people dumber and takes away free choice.
Look at one of the only industries that the government doesn't have their hand in: technology. That is the only industry where we really move forward. Things get better, and things get cheaper. That's because we don't have some shithead telling us we have to do things a certain way. We don't have the government regulating what we can and can't do. We are able to do as we wish and as a result things get better and better. Resources are appropriated accordingly and prices go down. Standard of living goes up. If the rest of the industries in America and the world as a whole was able to really operate this way we would have way less problems. Freedom really works. Slavery doesn't.
There are just way too many things that don't make sense. For example, the same people who brought us into the Dark Ages of old are the very same families and groups who are bringing about the New World Order. This isn't a group of people like George Washington or Thomas Jefferson. These people aren't selfless and part of moving mankind forward. They knew what they were doing in times past and they know what they are doing now. Again, I'm not mad about it personally. I simply recognize it.
Violent revolt is the only answer. Too bad any riots that happen in America (or Britain, for that matter) consist of the poor/middle class destroying their neighbors property and essentially shitting where they sleep instead of going after the real enemy. Do you think it matters who's in office? Voting is a ruse, picking one of these people over another changes absolutely nothing about anything. All politicians are the same (cut the left-wing right-wing bullshit, if you trust/support either of these parties you are the problem) and people act like Obama is "messing up". You can give Mother Teresa the commander-in-chief title and it wouldn't change a fuckin' thing, stop blaming the figureheads and blame yourself for bending over and taking it.
LOL; At least I wasn't the one who said it.
There are many solutions, of course, if only the american public didn't want to be such sheeple. If we could somehow get them off their fat asses and educate their children then there wouldn't be a problem at all. But we really can't without burning down their houses or mass exterminations or something else so drastic, so on one hand I'm inclined to agree with your statement.
On the other hand, there are smaller alternatives if you take a little time. Emigration of course is an obvious one. There are many people on this board right now enjoying a freer & cheaper lifestyle in Thailand & other countries. I'm pretty sure I'll be joining them when I retire or whenever the shit hits the fan here, whichever comes first.
Seasteading is another, but that takes a bit of time and money. Like 5-20 years and millions of dollars each.
Others have been suggested but at the end of the day the problem is always that there are a very few of us that would get off the sofa to revolt, so it's far, far, far easier to write this sad country off and enjoy life somewhere else.
If RP were elected and somehow made bulletproof, then I'd bet he'd slow down the decline quite a bit... But c'mon. The fat asses are still on their couches. They'll tell their senators to stop his initiatives, and of course the corporations that pay those same senators will be against RP 100%.
America is FVCKED no matter what happens in 2012. No matter if you start a revolution or not.
Plan your departure asap.
I have been saying this for 10 years. As we become more automated people will have less jobs. Remember when you used to call a company and talk to a customer service rep? Remember when robots didn't build cars? Vending Machines? Automated car washes? Self checkouts?
I could see things like fast food places becoming fully automated in the future. Grocery stores. Hell we don't even need police patrolling anymore with the surveillance.
The list goes on and on.
The Zeitgeist movement looks promising, but it's a pipe dream in the current social climate. People are too attached to the status-quo, even the ones who are being fucked by it.
