Hydra - BURN THE WITCH!

There continue to be rumors that Hydra is in trouble and soon to go out of business, will close its doors on January 15th (tomorrow), is getting out of the affiliate business, etc. etc. A member of this forum even posted court documents as “proof.”

This has been going on too long and I would like to settle the matter once and for all by providing the facts:

1) Yes, like many other networks, Hydra faced business challenges last year. We swallowed close to $10 million in bad debt from advertisers. (That’s more than most networks do in total revenue in a year!!!) Yet we’re still in business and continue to pay publishers on time.

2) It has been reported on here and those of you who have followed the situation know that Hydra has gone through a lot of drama… and it all came to a head in 4th quarter. But it was all resolved. Hydra and the Walker Family / W4 have settled all their issues. The Walkers have no involvement or ownership in Hydra and are free to run their business. There are no more lawsuits. It is done.

3) Hydra had to use the court system in the 4th Quarter for the purpose of restructuring. Certain aggressive and concerning statements were made as part of that process. But look at the end result. Zac Brandenberg led a new group of investors to buy the company he founded in 2003. There is no greater vote of confidence than putting up millions of dollars. For the record, the assets of Hydra were purchased by Marlboro Investment Group LLC – now renamed Hydra Group LLC. We have already informed most of our advertisers and affiliates of this change.

Bottom line – we’ve moved out of marketing categories we see no future in, we’ve just received a major new infusion of cash as part of a new corporate structure, we are investing in new capabilities to support future growth, and we have always and will continue to pay our affiliates on time.

Can we now just move on?!!!
 


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“Hydra does not have sufficient working capital. I anticipate that, in the next few business days, Hydra will not have sufficient funds to timely pay all of its employees and creditors, including its affiliates. Because of the reliance of Hydra on its affiliates, if timely payment cannot be made Hydra will begin rapidly to lose going concern value, as Hydra’s affiliates have many options that compete with Hydra in this commoditized space. These affiliates are highly motivated by consistend payments, and can be expected to react very negatively to any delay. Additionally, due to the nature of this business, the affiliates have the ability to, and would be expected to post negative messages about Hydra on internet message boards.” - (court docs)

My take: Hydra is a risky business to work with. Withholding affiliate payments due to financial problems is unacceptable. There are PLENTY of other networks out there that have the same (or very similar) offers at equally competitive payouts. I suppose it's up to you guys, but being an affiliate and relying on timely payouts I would MUCH rather choose one of the MANY other networks that aren't making statements like the one above. Mason is solely here as "the PR dude" as the reputation of their company on large message boards is *very* central to their affiliate base (and lots of large advertisers).
 
Mason, look at what you JUST did - Invite more commotion and drama. You think your posts and rebuttals are going to diffuse the situation? HELL NO.

Good luck bros.
 
Quoting statements in court documents from 2 months ago has little relevance to a business that moves in real time and even less relevance when taken out of context.

I would maintain that Hydra is LESS risky than most other networks as we already took our lumps, survived and kept on paying.
 
Mason, look at what you JUST did - Invite more commotion and drama. You think your posts and rebuttals are going to diffuse the situation? HELL NO.

Good luck bros.


Yeah I know, but the rumors are out there and we want the truth out there as well. I know we ultimately cannot win in an anonymous forum where flaming and hating is sport... but we can do our best to inform. People can make their own decisions.
 
Quoting statements in court documents from 2 months ago has little relevance to a business that moves in real time and even less relevance when taken out of context.

I would maintain that Hydra is LESS risky than most other networks as we already took our lumps, survived and kept on paying.

Did you really just say that your company being days away from complete bankruptcy less than 60 days ago has no bearing on its current financial stability?
 
Mason, plz paypal all Hydra's (remaining) monies (if they have any left) to Nickycakes. We will all be happy then.
 
2) It has been reported on here and those of you who have followed the situation know that Hydra has gone through a lot of drama… and it all came to a head in 4th quarter. But it was all resolved. Hydra and the Walker Family / W4 have settled all their issues. The Walkers have no involvement or ownership in Hydra and are free to run their business. There are no more lawsuits. It is done.

only to correct the misleading nature of this paragraph --[with great restraint i've historically stayed far away from these seemingly endless mason vs. all WF threads]; nothing came to a head between the Walkers & Hydra in Q4 as it appears above. conversely, in Q4 the Walkers reached a confidential settlement on all outstanding litigation with Hydra.

i believe what you're actually referring to Hydra's own CEO filing new lawsuits against Hydra, something about receivership, the sale of all assets, and much other noise --as you discuss in paragraph three. none of that had anything to do with the Walkers or W4.
 
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If Hydra wasn't in trouble then why would posts and threads be removed from the forum? Undoubtedly Hydra has put pressure on Jon or some other mod.

Obviously someone has something to hide.
 
^ this place is becoming WaFo with the amount of removed threads lately.